"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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would you guys pay $500 for deanlgelos stuff ?

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would you guys pay $500 for david deanlgelos stuff ? or is there better for cheaper
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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his stuff is gold... that said, if you ask around the forums you should be able to get pdf versions of most of it
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Just my opinion but David DeAngelo just rehashes stuff others are saying, lots of clichéd arguments. He's like one of those motivation speakers telling people how to get rich quick, more of a charlatan than the guru he claims to be.
 

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I'd rather play Poker with $500 personally, than spend it on a "guru".

Why spend $500 on something that can be achieved by going out there, talking to women, and LEARNING what works.


Want to know Mystery's/Tylers/DD secret? They have probably THOUSANDS of approaches under thier belts.

You don't learn to drive a car by someone else giving you a lecture on it, you learn by doing it.
 

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Doing 10 cold approaches > 1 year of reading seduction books
 

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I still think his old DYD ebook can give you a good foundation to build upon.
 

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Honestly, all his information can be obtained on the internet as well as on this website.
A simple google search of "****y humour examples" or something a long the lines of that can be a great help. I'm not a fan of memorizing openers, but once you read a couple of great examples, you will be able to make your own as you go out there on your own.

Don't waste your money, $500 is quite a bit, at least for me.
If anything, and you are really desperate, I would only purchase the "Attraction Isn't a Choice" and "Double your dating." I have had my hands on practically every material he has made, and those are the only 2 books that I felt were worth reading. All his other material was simply made so he can make more money, especially the DVD's and the tapes.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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potato said:
Just my opinion but David DeAngelo just rehashes stuff others are saying, lots of clichéd arguments. He's like one of those motivation speakers telling people how to get rich quick, more of a charlatan than the guru he claims to be.
I agree, this guy is a goon. I made my book for free on this forum. And I make no promises other than the material is mostly original and funny.
 
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Sure, he doesn't charge you for the first 30 days on the expensive products, and he doesn't charge you for 7 days on the cheaper products.

I'm assuming you've already been versed in his 'foundational e-books' so you are buying the DVD sets on his other courses.

If I were you - I'd buy everything he has out - try it for 30 days, and if it works for you and you start seeing changes within 30 days, then great, otherwise, just return the products. The reason being, if you go for a refund on one product, they may not do business with you again - so you may as well buy everything out then go for a refund if it doesn't work, that way you already got everything from them for free if it doesn't work, and if it makes your life better, then what's $ 500 if you are getting laid or whatever you want?
 

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He's an intelligent guy and has good presentation, and his advice is solid. His stuff is a lot more 'listenable' than a lot of other gurus' CDs out there. He does rehash a bunch of stuff, though I'd recommend buying his first CD set, and then returning it, lol.
 

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$500?

Keep it on put it on NE, IND, and DAL next week and you will win $3000 (paylay action) $500 x 6 = $3000

Then take that money and buy yourself a gf.
 

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just go out to clubs and bars and hit up girls til you get better. success and especially rejection is how you get better, not by passively watching videos and reading

I have about $200-300 worth seduction material I've paid over the last 7 years. in retrospect, most of it was a waste. 90% of it doesn't work for me because it's not congruent with my identity or personality. every guru looks at seduction through the filter of their own experience. that experience might not be the same as yours. you're better off saving that $500 for drinks at the bar or if you're a baller, putting it toward a workshop
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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The bottom line is whether or not you will implement it. You could buy the best advice for top dollar, but it wouldn't get you anywhere if you don't integrate into your lifestyle. But I guess spending $500 would motivate you to use it.

I found his old e-book Double Your Dating to be pretty interesting. I didn't buy it though.
 

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i dont like david deangolo's stuff, but he has few good concepts, most is i agree rehashed stuff
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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