"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Would you dare to use colored contacts ?

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When I first saw this thread, I thought it was a joke.
I have never heard of guys wearing contact lenses so they can be more attractive. I guess if you have to wear contacts anyway I guess I could see getting some color on there. I guess.

Maybe I could see the yellow or purple eyes if you're trying to pass yourself off as some sort of freak, I don't know.

I've just never considered eye color that big of a deal. I remember one girl being unimpressed when this other girl told her I had "pretty eyes". Her response was "So what? Everybody has pretty eyes". That's always struck me as being true for the most part.
Brown eyes can be nice looking, just like blue or green.

I'm not sure why eye color would be an advantage from an evolutionary standpoint. What would Just a Shot Away have to say about this?

backbreaker said:
I have worn hazel contacts for almost a decade now.
I think you have a bit of the dandy in you.
I'm seeing that now.
Not that that's a bad thing, just saying.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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zekko said:
When I first saw this thread, I thought it was a joke.
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I agree with you zekko, it seems to be a joke. When I started with this "theory", it seemed ridiculous too. Could women be that pathetic?, and chose guys based over such a minor detail. But I can give you a few answers.

From an evolutionary point of view, your pupils get bigger when you see someone you like. So people with blue eyes, "show" they care about you more easilly, and look more genuine. And others tend to find this more attractive. Although this works subconsciously, because most don´t know about this.
And then all the other stuff, i´ve already written.. from my experience these guys have it very easy, and are bombarded with compliments all day long. Women behave like construction workers, hitting on blue eyed guys, but it´s far more polite to compliment one person eyes, than the ass...
 

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We're in a world where people use eyeliner, eye shadow, lip gloss, lip stick, mascara, foundation, concealer, dye their hair and etc. So if you really want it go ahead, there are more drastic alterations out there than changing eye color.

But in any case, I found it really easy to tell if someone is wearing a contact, something about it gives it away.

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@JdelaSilveria I don't know how true it is about the pupil and caring theory. However most eye contacts have a static pupil or better put in the words of an optician: "I can tell. Maybe its because I'm an Optician with many, many years experience, but I can spot colored contacts a mile away. I think even if I weren't an Optician, I'd still spot them, because their pupils are ALWAYS the same size, no matter how bright it is or no matter how dark it is. That is because there is a cut-out for the pupil and even when your pupil dilates and contracts, the cut-out for the pupil doesn't show that...it looks weird and unnatural - to me anyway."
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
I agree with you zekko, it seems to be a joke. When I started with this "theory", it seemed ridiculous too. Could women be that pathetic?, and chose guys based over such a minor detail. But I can give you a few answers.

From an evolutionary point of view, your pupils get bigger when you see someone you like. So people with blue eyes, "show" they care about you more easilly, and look more genuine. And others tend to find this more attractive. Although this works subconsciously, because most don´t know about this.
And then all the other stuff, i´ve already written.. from my experience these guys have it very easy, and are bombarded with compliments all day long. Women behave like construction workers, hitting on blue eyed guys, but it´s far more polite to compliment one person eyes, than the ass...
Other than tall, handsome, and rich, I don't see any particular TYPE of man who gets a ridiculous amount of compliments.

Do girls like blue eyes? Sure. Hell, I like blue eyes too. But it's not such a HUGE deal that I'd change my eye color. Or that i'd be less attracted to a hot brown eyed girl. It's more like "Oh, blue eyes. How pretty." Not "BLUE EYES!! I MUST HAVE HER!!!"

Hey, you can get whatever contacts you want. I wouldn't do it. I think looking good, and being confident should be enough. We shouldn't need gimmicks.
 

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At this moment, I´m not considering using it. Just want to know what do you guys think of the idea... just an idea to be debated. But yes, Iceberg you might be right that blue eyes aren´t such a big deal, or it could be because you are from USA, and there the blue eyes aren´t that uncommon..my experience tells me the latter, but of course i´m not sure.
 

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Darth said:
And...

4. It's not genuine. God gave you the eyes you've got. Be yourself. It's not that big a deal.
agreed.. Seems like people will do anything to get laid. Everyone to their own i guess.
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
From an evolutionary point of view, your pupils get bigger when you see someone you like. So people with blue eyes, "show" they care about you more easilly, and look more genuine. And others tend to find this more attractive.
Hmm, interesting. I suppose that's possible.
But as ArcBound notes, you don't get this effect with the colored contacts.
Some of the guys here have noted getting compliments when wearing them.
Probably because the contacts most people choose usually have some sort of extreme shade, which gets noticed and invites comments.

JdelaSilviera said:
Iceberg you might be right that blue eyes aren´t such a big deal, or it could be because you are from USA, and there the blue eyes aren´t that uncommon
You're right that here in the States blue eyes are pretty common, so that may be why it's not a big deal.
I could see that if you lived in a country with predominately brown eyes, someone with blue or green eyes would stand out.

For what it's worth, I have blue eyes, but I don't get "bombarded with compliments". Once in awhile someone might mention them.
 

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zekko said:
You're right that here in the States blue eyes are pretty common, so that may be why it's not a big deal.
I could see that if you lived in a country with predominately brown eyes, someone with blue or green eyes would stand out.

For what it's worth, I have blue eyes, but I don't get "bombarded with compliments". Once in awhile someone might mention them.
Well that may be true. Maybe blue eyes are not a big deal in the States. But even the things that ARE a big deal in the States, aren't so big that you'd have to go to the pharmacist and get a prescription for some fake accessory just to get laid.

I think it'd be more attractive to stand out because of accomplishments than contact lenses. The traditional things (good looks, power, confidence) should be good enough. If you live in a country where blue eyes are rare, it would still be kind of extreme to get blue contacts. I mean, obviously brown-eyed people are getting laid. That's where all the brown eyes are coming from.

That's just my philosophy. The type of girl who's going to date me because of some gimmick is the kind of girl who I wouldn't want to waste my time gaming anyway.
 

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Hell no I wouldn't wear colored contacts, for the same reason I don't wear mascara and makeup.
 

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Iceberg said:
I think it'd be more attractive to stand out because of accomplishments than contact lenses.
Very true. I suppose the OP is looking into gaining every advantage.
Nothing wrong with considering that I guess, but to me it sounds like it might come across as too try hard, even desperate.

And yes, kind of gay.
But then again, I'm an old school guy. I'm still not used to the idea of guys wearing earrings.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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zekko said:
And yes, kind of gay.
But then again, I'm an old school guy. I'm still not used to the idea of guys wearing earrings.
That's the biggest thing you older guys have to keep in mind...things do change. Guys no longer wear their pants past their belly buttons with their shirts tucked in.

It is extremely rare for me to see a white guy with a pompadour, or a black guy with a 30's perm or 80's Jheri curl.

Nowadays, it is normal for guys to wear earrings. It's also somewhat common for guys to wear skinny jeans (Now this I won't do, but I don't judge the guys who do)...speaking of which, I saw a dude wearing skinny jeans holding hands with a descent looking chick. He was a young guy who looked like this, with the mustache and shades:

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/reno_911/officers/lt_dangle/index.jhtml


Some of the stuff on here (especially regarding clothes), I take with a grain of salt. You have some guys saying, "No, don't wear a necklace, or a this and that," but I've seen plenty of guys have these things and have hot girlfriends.

Hell, I stopped wearing a lot of stuff because of the things I read here, but as soon as I put it on again, I see a HUGE difference in the way women respond to me.
 

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I don't get guys with earrings, and I'm 20. Aren't earrings for girls?? Whenever I see a guy wearing an earring (especially two earrings), I laugh to myself.
 

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Darth said:
I don't get guys with earrings, and I'm 20. Aren't earrings for girls?? Whenever I see a guy wearing an earring (especially two earrings), I laugh to myself.
:rolleyes:

It's a culture thing too.
 

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bish0p said:
Guys no longer wear their pants past their belly buttons with their shirts tucked in.
Wearing your pants past your belly buttons has never been cool since I've been alive.

It is extremely rare for me to see a white guy with a pompadour
Conan O'Brien wears a pompadour, just off the top of my head. I think they may be a little more common than you think. I know a few guys who wear pompadours, and the girls give them positive remarks about them all the time.

Nowadays, it is normal for guys to wear earrings
I'm well aware of that, it has been probably since I was 18 or younger.
I still don't like it. Personal taste.

You have some guys saying, "No, don't wear a necklace, or a this and that
I've never understood the reasoning behind why you shouldn't wear a necklace.
 

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A necklace or a medallion? Necklaces are for girls, but I wear a silver medallion with a cross, underneath my T-shirt. It's cool (and my grandfather used to wear one).
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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I'm gonna try and not get into a battle where I'm picking apart your ever statement, because in the end (as you have said), it's all a matter of taste.

zekko said:
Wearing your pants past your belly buttons has never been cool since I've been alive.
I was exaggerating here. The point being is that it seems to be the trend for many of the younger guys (at least here in Florida and for the past 17 years or so) to wear their pants sagging. I see this trend continuing, especially with the hip hop culture, and even the Emo and Beach/Surfer guy types.


zekko said:
Conan O'Brien wears a pompadour, just off the top of my head. I think they may be a little more common than you think. I know a few guys who wear pompadours, and the girls give them positive remarks about them all the time.
I was actually thinking of the Greaser style that was popular back in the 1950's (like John Travolta in Grease, or Elvis Presley).

But, I just googled this hairstyle and it does seem to be making a bit of a comeback. I actually wore my hair like that back in August last year...I had the Elvis side burns and everything, only not as thick.
 

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Eyes are really noticeable. This applies doubly to guys because we (usually) lack any of the curvier distractions to get attention off the eyes.
I personally like girls with interesting eye colors, like green and gold.
I don't see it as much different than dying your hair, to be honest. It's not something I would do, but if you wear contacts already I don't see why it's bad.

Also, when I mentioned this being genetically attractive I meant genetic compatibility, wasn't implying specific colored eyes had any evolutionary advantage. As far as I know they don't.
 

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Think of it from a different point of view:

If you're a girl and you're dating a guy that is a bit out of shape and not particularly handsome in the classical sense, what feature WOULD you compliment about him? The eyes are a pretty safe bet.

I think you're just trying to find evidence to support this idea because it's a "magic bullet." If there was a "magic bullet" in pickup, wouldn't we have found it by now?

Go on and try the colored lenses--you may get opened more, or have a good conversation starter, but it's not going to be much different than any other peacocking gimmick in that it won't make up for a lack of game.

I think you'd see greater improvements just by consciously acting more masculine around women--being assertive, acting dominant, working on body language, etc.--because THOSE are the guys that are converting girls into lays. Pretty boys often get a lot of attention from younger women because they seem "safe" and unthreatening, due to their feminine nature. Being called "pretty" is, unfortunately, not the same as taking a girl home with you. This is the lie that many metrosexual-wannabes are sold on--though it seems to make perfect sense, when you see women swooning over effeminate-looking actors.

The FANTASY life of women is MUCH different than reality. In fantasies, she wants the sweet, sensitive pretty boy...in reality, though, she wants an aggressive man. The biology of women is not going to change because of some Hollywood fad.

The reason going to the gym gives you better results in field is NOT because it gives you a better physique (though that will help). The reason is because it increases the testosterone levels in your body, which give you more confidence, a higher sex drive, and an elevated mood. These are the things that will ultimately bring more women into your life and keep you out of "friendzone." If you're having issues with shyness or insecurity, going to the gym should be the FIRST thing you try.
 

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CantTouchMyStyle said:
Spanish women LOVE me. Seriously, I absolutely clean up with spanish women. They get wet at the thought of having a spanish child with blue eyes.. it's ridiculous.
I have met and seen a lot of Spanish with blue or green eyes when in Spain.

FYI...people from Spain = Spanish. People from Latin America = Latino/a. I speak English...am I English? No, I'm from the USA so I'm an American.
 

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I see no problem with it - especially if its for a ONS. At the end of the day its just another tool to make yourself more attractive to females and rare (not unusual, yellow and such) eye colour does that.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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