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would you bother responding if she gives you a flakey half arsed counter offer by txt

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if a girl flakes on your date and counter offers with a 'how about another time?' or 'how about next week?' or 'how about another day?'

clearly she's not that interested cos she hasn't given you a proper counter offer and just wants you to keep chasing and trying to bait you into it. normally i wouldn't reply. but if we're applying the 2 strikes rule here, you would technically try again in a couple weeks.

if you dont respond and then try again in 2 weeks, you'll look like you are desperate and run out of your other options. is there a response you could give that doesn't make you look desperate seeing as not responding and then trying again in a couple weeks will?
 

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it's more a general question really, like i get these text responses a lot but as i am applying the 2 strikes rule i usually follow up 2 weeks later to no avail.

i think it's because i dont reply, they think i'm angry as oppose to not interested any more, and when i follow up 2 weeks later i look desperate.

would something like 'ok' or 'k' be sufficient? i just dont like the idea of agreeing to their terms of 'how about another time/day/week?'
 

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Propose a counter counter offer to them. Usually if they give some BS again you can be 100% sure they have low IL. Why? Because nobody has plans that last an entire week.

Her: Let's do this another time.
You: Ok let's meet on <whenever you're free>.

At this point if she still flakey about it or propposes another counter offer, its best to drop her.
 

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pete101 said:
if you dont respond and then try again in 2 weeks, you'll look like you are desperate and run out of your other options.
I really don't think that would look desperate. You're thinking too much.

is there a response you could give that doesn't make you look desperate seeing as not responding and then trying again in a couple weeks will?
Yeah, I would respond - "Okay."

No, seriously...I would. It leaves the girl wondering if you really mean okay, or if you're angry, or if you're scrolling through your list of other girls to talk to.

Just give a simple one-word answer that conveys nothing. Let the girl wonder. And try again.

I actually did this last week. I invited a girl to see me. She says something like, "I have a show on Thurs, a party on Fri, and my weekend is blah blah blah blah. How about early next week?"

So I replied. "Okay."

Next thing I know, she's like..."Well we could hang out after my show on Thurs."

So we did. And we banged. Happily ever after.
 

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On the basis that nothing is in stone, I just go spin more plates. I don't reward for bad behavior.
 

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Iceberg said:
I really don't think that would look desperate. You're thinking too much.



Yeah, I would respond - "Okay."

No, seriously...I would. It leaves the girl wondering if you really mean okay, or if you're angry, or if you're scrolling through your list of other girls to talk to.

Just give a simple one-word answer that conveys nothing. Let the girl wonder. And try again.

I actually did this last week. I invited a girl to see me. She says something like, "I have a show on Thurs, a party on Fri, and my weekend is blah blah blah blah. How about early next week?"

So I replied. "Okay."

Next thing I know, she's like..."Well we could hang out after my show on Thurs."

So we did. And we banged. Happily ever after.
i think what i meant was if you DONT respond and then follow up 2 weeks later you'll look desperate i.e. you were mad/sulking/angry so didn't bother replying to her 'how about another time?' fake offer and THEN follow up 2 weeks later asking her out again.

but you've addressed that issue, just saying 'okay' is good, makes them question whether you mean it or not. good advice.

what if say you say 'okay' and she gets back to you a week later with some BS question wanting your attention like 'hey how are you?'

should it be a one word answer again i.e. 'great'?
 
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