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Would you assist a woman you were dating with her student loans?

MatureDJ

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/business/24loans.html?_r=1

“I never thought in a million years that I was ever going to have a problem with working and making money,” Ms. Troestler said. In 2002, she defaulted on her loans, which then ballooned with fees and penalties to $63,000, she said. In 2003, she found a job at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, where she still works. But then she found that her wages had been garnished, taking about $500 a month from her $2,500 take-home pay, she said.

“All of this was terribly embarrassing to me,” Ms. Troestler said. Later, a man she was dating helped pay off her student debts, in 2006, but then the two split up because of tension over the loans, she said.
I suppose that if I were getting regularly sexed and felt that it was worth it from a professional POV, I would consider helping out a woman like this. $500 a month for a good triple-come 2 hour session of sex 3 times a week would seem to be worth it.
 

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As a MatureDJ, surely you jest.

How bad would you hate yourself if you paid down your gfs school loans only to find out she was cheating on you? How does that conversation even go, "Honey would you mind paying my school loans?" She probably showed him how sad she was and he put on his Capn Save-a-Ho cape.

But maybe everyone else isn't like me. I have seen too many men led into financial RUIN by a woman, and regardless of my feelings, I would never compromise my money to keep the pvssy train rolling. Fvck that, just go get another one. Money is a vastly superior companion to the great majority of women anyway.

And of course their LTR went to crap. He was a wuss for paying her loans, she lost attraction and took him for granted, and bob is your uncle.

Listen to me, for I adhere to the wisdom of Jophil and Scaramouche.
 

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MatureDJ said:
I suppose that if I were getting regularly sexed and felt that it was worth it from a professional POV, I would consider helping out a woman like this. $500 a month for a good triple-come 2 hour session of sex 3 times a week would seem to be worth it.
Allow me to point out your errors in logic, if I may.

1) Her loans were 63K, and the article states that the dude helped her pay them off, not make her monthly payments. They met sometime after 2003 and they split in 2006. She still works at the same job, an couldn't possibly pay more than what they garnished from her wages.

63K paid off in 3 years is $1750 a month, of which she paid a maximum of 500, leaving him with $1250 a month.

Given your thrice a week come-fest (for three solid years), that comes to a hundred bucks a pop (per fest, not per come). Not a bad deal. Two hours of repeated ejaculations for a hundred bucks is not a bad bargain, at least in western society.

2)However, you left out the most significant piece of data pointing to this guys world class chumpi-ness:

Donna Troestler, 47....given her new health limitations
Now, I don't know about most guys, but if I saw an ad in the paper that said they were having grand opening special, which included a three hour come-fest for only a hundred bucks, and I showed up with my Benjamin in one hand, and my Johnson in the other, only to find some 47 y/o ladies with health limitations, I'd decide to go see Avatar again or something. Even if it was only in 2-D.
 

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I dated my ex for 7 months and i spent almost 7000 in that 7 months. I Helped her with rent and with food. She left me and is now with someone. I will never pay for anything for a girl if she is not my wife.
 

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ecko280 said:
I dated my ex for 7 months and i spent almost 7000 in that 7 months. I Helped her with rent and with food. She left me and is now with someone. I will never pay for anything for a girl if she is not my wife.
Dont pay for everything when she your wife either:cool: Pick a wife that can,does, and will pay her share of EVERYTHING or you will get another flucking my friend!!!
 

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taiyuu_otoko said:
Allow me to point out your errors in logic, if I may.

1) Her loans were 63K, and the article states that the dude helped her pay them off, not make her monthly payments. They met sometime after 2003 and they split in 2006. She still works at the same job, an couldn't possibly pay more than what they garnished from her wages.

63K paid off in 3 years is $1750 a month, of which she paid a maximum of 500, leaving him with $1250 a month.

Given your thrice a week come-fest (for three solid years), that comes to a hundred bucks a pop (per fest, not per come). Not a bad deal. Two hours of repeated ejaculations for a hundred bucks is not a bad bargain, at least in western society.

2)However, you left out the most significant piece of data pointing to this guys world class chumpi-ness:



Now, I don't know about most guys, but if I saw an ad in the paper that said they were having grand opening special, which included a three hour come-fest for only a hundred bucks, and I showed up with my Benjamin in one hand, and my Johnson in the other, only to find some 47 y/o ladies with health limitations, I'd decide to go see Avatar again or something. Even if it was only in 2-D.
Plus you also have to consider that this chump was probably burdened with other expenses to support this woman. Chances are, it was working out to more than $1250 a month given that she was only making $2000 a month.
 

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Dont pay for everything when she your wife either Pick a wife that can,does, and will pay her share of EVERYTHING or you will get another flucking my friend!!!
Yeah I agree. I wouldn't help pay on student loans for a WIFE, let alone a girlfriend.
 

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Right now I am dating a girl who is some one ex.I spent so much behind her to get.And loan will be taken upto 64k.So much will be needed to get back.
 

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**** no. She is treating the guy like sugar daddy. Let her pay loan by herself.
 

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