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Would legalizing brothels solve problems with Western women?

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Women these days have no incentive to keep themselves from looking like land whales and act like brats, stuck up and overall pretty rotten.

Lets say nationwide in the US prostitution became legal. I don't mean banging crackhead hookers, but brothels that have decent looking women to pay to bang.

This would instantly change the attitudes of women IMO. It would probably also kill the paid OLD sites as well. Why pay for OLD dumpster diving for mostly trash, dead end first dates when you can pay for an escort and get to the point quickly?
 

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Women these days have no incentive to keep themselves from looking like land whales and act like brats, stuck up and overall pretty rotten.

Lets say nationwide in the US prostitution became legal. I don't mean banging crackhead hookers, but brothels that have decent looking women to pay to bang.

This would instantly change the attitudes of women IMO. It would probably also kill the paid OLD sites as well. Why pay for OLD dumpster diving for mostly trash, dead end first dates when you can pay for an escort and get to the point quickly?

It seems to work well in latin america. Women here know that you can go out and get a girl better looking than them instantly for sex. There is definitely more pressure for them to look hot and put out easier it seems. ***** ain't **** once a set rate and easy access is put on it.
 

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it be over for women for sure. Women utilize pay to play very fully and openly while men have to be extremely discreet about it. It’s not just pvssy either, you don’t have to deal with the stress of dating a woman and wasting time on meeting them through dates.
 

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I've been told that in countries like Colombia where there's prostitutes everywhere the normal women dress conservatively and aren't quick or easy to have sex with to distinguish themselves from the professionals.

This is good if you've got a traditional housewife fetish but it's not good if you like having fun with women without paying for it.
 

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I've been told that in countries like Colombia where there's prostitutes everywhere the normal women dress conservatively and aren't quick or easy to have sex with to distinguish themselves from the professionals.

This is good if you've got a traditional housewife fetish but it's not good if you like having fun with women without paying for it.
you’re already paying for it, in retrospect, you pay more this way
 

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you’re already paying for it, in retrospect, you pay more this way
I agree. Especially where I live with some of the girls I deal with. Hopefully legalized prostitution makes the price of sex cheaper at least.
 

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It seems to work well in latin america. Women here know that you can go out and get a girl better looking than them instantly for sex. There is definitely more pressure for them to look hot and put out easier it seems. ***** ain't **** once a set rate and easy access is put on it.
Could also explain why countries like the Netherlands have attractive women as well and not many fatties. They have their laws right in the Netherlands.
 

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I can't fathom paying to be in a bodily fluid infested female. I'd rather cornhole a bee-hive.
 

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I've been told that in countries like Colombia where there's prostitutes everywhere the normal women dress conservatively and aren't quick or easy to have sex with to distinguish themselves from the professionals.
It’s not true. I’ve lived there. Many colombian women like dressing sexy, whether they’re prostitutes or not.
 

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No. It is de facto legal in Toronto and here is still the incel capital of the world.
 

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No. It is de facto legal in Toronto and here is still the incel capital of the world.
I never knew it was legal in Toronto, I bet most people didn’t know it either.
 

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I never knew it was legal in Toronto, I bet most people didn’t know it either.
I said de facto legal. That means there are laws on the books but the prevailing social and police culture does not lead to enforcement of those laws. In practise only extreme cases where minors or sex trafficing are involved are there busts but its mainly the pimps that get charged. This is to encourage clients to report any abuse to the police without worrying about being arrested themselves.

Aa far as America is concerned, I think in places where it is illegal, you have to see how the local police culture or attitude is. For example, would police target a white person doing this in Florida? So it might be defacto legal for @biggoal.
 

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It would solve the involuntarily celibate issue but there is a big difference between a woman giving herself to you because she wants you vs you paying for it. One does something great for your self esteem, the other does not....might actually make it worse. The same guys that feel like **** now would continue to feel like **** only they would be able to nut inside a prostitute vs onto a Kleenex wipe.

At the core most people want to be genuinely accepted by the opposite sex (look at the state of this board - really what most guys on here desire is a simple girlfriend.) Paying for attention/sexual gratification won't cut it in the long run.
 
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It would solve the involuntarily celibate issue but there is a big difference between a woman giving herself to you because she wants you vs you paying for it. One does something great for your self esteem, the other does not....might actually make it worse. The same guys that feel like **** now would continue to feel like **** only they would be able to nut inside a prostitute vs onto a Kleenex wipe.

At the core most people want to be genuinely accepted by the opposite sex (look at the state of this board - really what most guys on here desire is a simple girlfriend.) Paying for attention/sexual gratification won't cut it in the long run.
This is completely false. A sex worker is paid to get you off and cater to you what you want within boundaries. For your gf or wife to give you exceptional sex, her interest level has to be high atm and that takes maintenance and depending on what mood she is in that night. For example, I can go see my therapist and then go home and cook myself a nice steak and chill on the couch playing PS5 with an old fashioned whiskey VS a GF is not going to leave your place most likely and make you watch some dumb show on Netflix, make you take her to some stupid Fair and family dinner killing your whole Sunday, and then be in some unpredictable period moon swing mode for the next 5 days of the workweek.

Any guy that chooses the GF option has never dealt with this BS before and hasn't learned to love & appreciate himself because you can have plenty of toxic relationships with women but if you do not love yourself then you will always want to go back to another one.
 

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It would solve the involuntarily celibate issue but there is a big difference between a woman giving herself to you because she wants you vs you paying for it. One does something great for your self esteem, the other does not....might actually make it worse. The same guys that feel like **** now would continue to feel like **** only they would be able to nut inside a prostitute vs onto a Kleenex wipe.

At the core most people want to be genuinely accepted by the opposite sex (look at the state of this board - really what most guys on here desire is a simple girlfriend.) Paying for attention/sexual gratification won't cut it in the long run.
It's debatable if it would even reduce the incel rate that much either.

You're correct about what the core issue is. It is essentially impossible to fix the core issue through directly paying for attention/sexual gratification.
 

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I can see some benefits for men to see escorts/prostitutes but I also feel that there can be some cons as well, I'll elaborate on both.

One of the benefits I can see with this is you essentially get to the point with what you want, sex, without having to put on some charade. I feel that this is the primary reason men waste a lot of their time simping and chasing for women, even those that have little interest. I feel that if they were able to just essentially get it over with a lot of this behavior would disappear. Now, a lot of this has to do with the current dating environment and OLD dating apps/sites, which is something else men should avoid. I feel that for men who are very busy and don't really have the time or energy to put themselves into the game, something I can personally relate to, then paying for it here and there is honestly much more ideal. A man can put a lot of time into trying to get anywhere with women and it can easily lead to frustration and burn out when things aren't lining up.

Another benefit is that this could be a really good confidence booster or a "slump buster". A lot of times when a man goes a (very)long time without any female interaction he comes off as awkward or even thirsty, which is a female turn off. It ties in with what I mentioned above, you become a bit less thirsty but since you've had some momentum built you come across as more laid back and more confident around women. A couple years back I saw an escort and I noticed I felt totally different afterwards, it's kind of hard to explain.

Some of the cons though, and they do exist.

I feel if a man makes a habit of this or it becomes his only means of attaining sex there can be some repercussions. I feel that this can develop some unnatural expectations when it comes to interactions with women, as it totally eliminates the actual "game" or social skills needed in order to get a woman to actually want to have sex with you. Despite what people say, women still expect you to be able to socialize with them properly and if you haven't developed this skill you are guaranteed to be rejected, even if you are 6'+ and ripped and handsome.

Something else to consider is that it's not really natural and is not the same as a woman who actually wants your **** inside of her. While there are escorts that are legitimate nymphos or those that may actually be physically attracted to you, it's still not the same as a woman who deep down wants you.

A guy who lacks game all together and can't or hasn't been able to land women the "natural" way may resort to hiring escorts and could possibly be trapped in this loop. I feel this can easily be avoided but it's something to consider.

Other things are related to the legality of it, STDs, etc. This is also something that you do not want to discuss openly with other people. I feel there are a lot of benefits to seeing escorts/prostitutes but the cons should be considered. Something else to know is that many of these women are doing this for a reason, some definitely just love to have sex but many are drug addicts.
 

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Im pretty certain its legal in the UK. and our women are atrocious, entitled, vapid, masculine entities who think men are disposable clowns

the welfare system in the UK then backs every move she makes, and she also has 1000 social constructs telling her how great she is for being fat.
 
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