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Would it be weird? We're not blood-related or anything

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Igetit! said:
So when you were 21,your 15 year old family member was all over you.

Huh. Well you asked for opinions,so here's mine....


That's WEIRD dude. Ten billion chicks out there,yet you're asking about your sister's niece.


That be some weird sh1t if you guys were to have a family gathering....and I KNOW your sis would freak.....having her brother and her niece fooling around with each other.



In the original post,you said.....

You've known the girl 7 years. You're 25,she's 19.......so you've known her since she was 12. Well did this sh1t cross your mind when she was 12 and you were 18?


I don't know man,this is just........DAMN. :nervous:
Well, I've "known" her for 7 years, but hardly saw her back then.

And it's my brother-in-law's niece, for the record.
 

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My sister is married to my brother's wife's nephew. There is no blood relation. Nothing wrong with dating this girl you have your eye on Teddy.
 

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That's fine teddy. Sh!t I remember when I first met my 2nd cousins once removed, I was like damn. They were hot.

But I had to be like, nope, stop it. To deviant.
 

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This f*cking thread...
Did the RSD forums get transplanted here or what lol

YGTBSM
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Agree with Vice. The "family" objection holds no water because it's not his blood family and it's remote, not like a stepsister or something. The "proximity" objection holds no water because it's someone he -might- be around a few times a year, NBD there. There are no more risks nor discomfort possible here than dating someone met at school or church.

Today IMO, given the state of things in the U.S. anyway, ALL opportunities one finds appealing that are legal and not truly taboo or totally unwise are worthy of exploration, and foregoing them simply limits options, which is right where gynoculture wants us, a pool of powerless, manipulable men with fewer and fewer options.

PC femculture is so entrenched that men have been conditioned to look for any possible excuse not to behave in completely normal, healthy masculine sexual ways, "ooo ooo it might offend someone.... ooo ooo it might cause... DISCOMFORT... ooo ooo it just feels weird and creepy."

F that.
 

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Don't do it.
 

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Boy it just occured to me that this is one reason there are so many unconfident afc's in the world. Not only are men shamed by woman, they are also shamed by men as well. Listen, i been in your shoes twice! But, i only indulged in it on one occasion! And i felt absolutley no shame at all. I say go for it. And hit it twice for me
 

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Teddy, go for it.

The only opinions that truly matter are your own and the women you are with. The outside stuff from family and SS really dont rate outside of that. I am struggling to see the 'weirdness' here that others are searching for.

If you dont go for it because SS and what will the folks think you will never live it down. I made this mistake in the past where my folks 'didnt approve' of who I was dating, simply because she was a friend of my sisters from YEARS ago, and lost an otherwise great opportunity with an interesting women. I dont stop and think to seek approval on who I can and cant date at this point. Approval seeking = not getting laid.

Your one of my favorite posters and I would be absolutely crushed if you went the same route as me and learnt from experience.
 

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I'd go for it, personally.

Like Dragon said, I missed tons of opportunities with some smokin girls when I was younger because I thought someone (usually my sister because it was one of her friends) might disapprove. Which was usually excuse #785 for not finding my gonads and making a move.

You're a man. She's a woman. She's throwing invites. There's no chance your children might be born with extra or missing heads. It's not your fault someone else in your and her familes got married first. You are both adults, its really none of their business, frankly.

Go for it.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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DragonBlood said:
Your one of my favorite posters and I would be absolutely crushed if you went the same route as me and learnt from experience.
Thanks man. Brings a tear to my eye:cry:
 

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There's no blood relation, so you're not breaking any laws.

If she's hot and a family favourite, everyone will understand.

Go for it!
 

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Vice said:
What the hell is so creepy about this? THERE IS NO BLOOD. IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CREEPY BEFORE THEY GOT MARRIED; what difference does it make when their names are on a piece of paper at the courthouse and the families are forced to interact with each other more frequently because of it? Besides, you both have different last names.

You guys are so full of limiting beliefs. Now if there was blood involved, this would be a MUCH different post.
None of that matters any. It's the problems that can occur if something goes sour. Just like you don't mix pleasure with your work. Is getting fired and losing your income worth a little poon? Is causing a family conflict worth getting a little poon? Instead of thinking with the little head, think with your big head. Kicking some chick to the curb is easy. Trying to kick a family member to the curb will be hard when they will always be around. I guess some of you guys don't see it that way.
 

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May_Day said:
None of that matters any. It's the problems that can occur if something goes sour.
+1 rep.

It's more of likely a scenario of WHEN it goes sour. Honestly,I don't think it'll even get that far. It's unlikely it'll get to the point of them dating,something going wrong,them separating,then things being awkward.


IOIs don't mean success,they just mean you have the green light to go for success,you can still screw things up. Even if a chick gives him IOIs,that's likely what will occur since this guy's a newbie.



Just like you don't mix pleasure with your work. Is getting fired and losing your income worth a little poon? Is causing family a conflict worth getting a little poon? Instead of thinking with the little head, think with your big head. Kicking some chick to the curb is easy. Trying to kick a family member to the curb will be hard when they will always be around. I guess some of you guys don't see it that way.

Even though I agree with all you just said,to most guys none of that matters.

They don't care about mixing pickup with work,or any other "sticky" situation like that,long as the chick is "hot",that's all that matters.


Don't date a co-worker....

yeah,but she's "hot"

Female boss on the job?

yeah,but she's "hot"

step-sister?

yeah,but dude....she's "hot"


When a chick is "hot",all this DJ teaching gets put to the side.



He's a grown man...if he wants to try to go date his brother-in-law's niece,go ahead.


This place sure ain't like it used to be. It used to be you being a MAN and taking care of you and yo' sh1t FIRST,then chicks 2nd,but now "hotness" is number 1,and if that hotness causes problems and issue in your life......oh well.....least the chick was hot. (SMH)
 

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Igetit! said:
+1 rep.

It's more of likely a scenario of WHEN it goes sour. Honestly,I don't think it'll even get that far. It's unlikely it'll get to the point of them dating,something going wrong,them separating,then things being awkward.


IOIs don't mean success,they just mean you have the green light to go for success,you can still screw things up. Even if a chick gives him IOIs,that's likely what will occur since this guy's a newbie.






Even though I agree with all you just said,to most guys none of that matters.

They don't care about mixing pickup with work,or any other "sticky" situation like that,long as the chick is "hot",that's all that matters.


Don't date a co-worker....

yeah,but she's "hot"

Female boss on the job?

yeah,but she's "hot"

step-sister?

yeah,but dude....she's "hot"


When a chick is "hot",all this DJ teaching gets put to the side.



He's a grown man...if he wants to try to go date his brother-in-law's niece,go ahead.


This place sure ain't like it used to be. It used to be you being a MAN and taking care of you and yo' sh1t FIRST,then chicks 2nd,but now "hotness" is number 1,and if that hotness causes problems and issue in your life......oh well.....least the chick was hot. (SMH)

Everything you say I agree. Look at the big picture first, before you start dipping the pen into the ink. A lot of men probably wished they looked at the big picture before they wound up in trouble. Don't go banging a chick because she might be "hot". Your number one responsiblity should be yourself and what the consequences could be. Because the chick won't care when it ends up bad for you. She will be doing what is best for herself. seems like these guys don't see it that way. I'm not sure if they are that inexperienced or just too hungry for poon.
 

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Igetit, May_Day

what are these doomsday consequences your talking about specifically? A women who avoids you at weddings? Maybe a situation where you have to be polite for a couple of min? God forbid!

What are the benefits? A relationship with a potentially high interest and young woman for whatever length of time that might be.


I think you are expressing an irrational fear and overestimating the value of societies influence. Getting your sh!t together has nothing to do with openly ignoring and refusing serendipity.

Rejection is better than Regret
 
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How would it be weird? My mom's brother and dad's sister were married, then through the family my mom met my dad, now they're married. That means some of my cousins have the same bloodlines as me on both sides of the family, so it's as close to "brother from another mother (and father)" as you can get.
 

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DragonBlood said:
Igetit, May_Day

what are these doomsday consequences your talking about specifically? A women who avoids you at weddings? Maybe a situation where you have to be polite for a couple of min? God forbid!

What are the benefits? A relationship with a potentially high interest and young woman for whatever length of time that might be.


I think you are expressing an irrational fear and overestimating the value of societies influence. Getting your sh!t together has nothing to do with openly ignoring and refusing serendipity.

Rejection is better than Regret

Exactly.

This isn't even remotely the same as screwing around at work. That goes south and you lose your livelyhood. This? Nothing of real consequence. Some awkwardness at worst.

Just cant pump and dump this one, obviously. Even if it doesnt work out, as long as hes a gentleman about it he's good.

Taking a pass for this awkwardness is a step short of taking a pass because you feel awkward approaching some random because you're in a crowded bar. Excuses are the road to inaction and there's ALWAYS one readily available.
 

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Igetit, May_Day what are these doomsday consequences your talking about specifically?

The inexperience in here really shows. It's easy to sit on the sidelines telling him to go ahead and f*ck her. It won't affect you if anything happens to him. None of you know anything about him, the girl, or his family situation and how they would feel about it. He said she is pretty hot and was all over him well maybe she isn't hot at all. All you see is him saying she is pretty hot and you guys tell him to go ahead with it. Maybe this girl is just messing with him and he is mistaking it for something more. Some guys say yeah she really wants me and then she doesn't. What if she isn't really serious about fu*king him? He could try to escalate something and freak the chick out. Then what would happen? What if she's cool with it and then decides she's not?. This is his family he has to deal with not some random chick he can blow off. Maybe this girl might want a relationship and he doesn't then he will have a lot of sh1t to deal with. Man you guys aren't thinking too clearly on this and should really know what kind of advice you're giving him before he tries something. This is family guys, not some random pump and dump.

Do any of you guys ever put 100% trust and confidence in a girl? Do you not think this girl would f*ck him over even if she happens to be in the family? Maybe this girl is nuts? Even a wife can fu*ck you over. If anything goes sour she will blame him for it. Who do you think the family is more inclined to believe? Maybe the in laws don't like him and the fact he is banging the niece. She could turn everything on him and accuse him of anything to get off the hook. Would would he do then? she could say he was always after her or some sh!t like that. I wouldn't put anything past a girl and I'm surprised that you guys would be steering him into a possible bad situation especially something in the family.

DragonBlood said:
Rejection is better than Regret
Has nothing to do with rejection, its about preventing a possible bad situation from occuring. He might regret pounding her if he knocks her up or she decides to f*ck him over if a family member gets pissed off about it.

Don_Dom said:
Exactly.

This isn't even remotely the same as screwing around at work. That goes south and you lose your livelyhood. This? Nothing of real consequence. Some awkwardness at worst.

Just cant pump and dump this one, obviously. Even if it doesnt work out, as long as hes a gentleman about it he's good.

Taking a pass for this awkwardness is a step short of taking a pass because you feel awkward approaching some random because you're in a crowded bar. Excuses are the road to inaction and there's ALWAYS one readily available.

You don't think this girl would f*ck him over like any other would? Give me a break. A 19 year old girl too. I guess you don't know girls at all. Women always look out for themselves. She won't be looking out for his concerns if the going gets rough. Comparing a random doesn't work with this. This isn't about approaching girls or getting rejected. It's about preventing a situation that could turn out bad for him. He can pound her every night for all I care, just be aware that things might not turn out the way he likes. Then he would be stuck in a bad family situation.

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Just cant pump and dump this one, obviously. Even if it doesnt work out, as long as hes a gentleman about it he's good.
Which is all the more reason not to attempt this and being a gentleman won't help him if this chick has him by the balls. Do you see what you guys are saying? All you guys are discarding every DJ principle over a 19 year old girl. Do you act this hasty in real life?
 
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^^^^^ Welcome to So Suave where we now advise newbies to dream up every possible excuse to not act on positive signals from women they are attracted to.

The situation we are here to prevent is NOT DOING ANYTHING. Like Dragon said, what's the worst that can happen? Awkwardness at a family event once a year? His brother in law might get upset? Oh nos, the sky has fallen! You are, literally, dreaming up non-problems when you have no idea what will or won't happen. He's only responsible for his own behavior. If she winds up being crazy, that's on her not him. VERY AFC thinking here, especially when you make female bad behavior a male responsiblity. So what if his brother and law doesn't approve? I say again, they are adults. It's nobody's damned business. What's worse is having to see this girl at family events for the rest of his life never knowing what could have been, except she's no longer interested because she thinks he's an indecisive pvssy. Dragon is absolutely correct. Regret is worse than any other possible consequence here. At worst, some minor family drama.

Abandoning DJ principles? The operative principle here is HE WHO HESTATES MASTURBATES. If you think what is being taught here requires anyone to do anything they shouldn't or that would necesarily cause unforgiveable trouble within a family in a situation like this then you have either MISSED THE POINT or you are a TROLL or both. This site is about self improvement and becoming the best man possible as the ultimate route to attract high quality women, with a healthy understanding of how women operate so as to avoid their bull****. One of the first steps is GETTING OUT OF ONES OWN WAY.

You seem to be of the mindset, along with the rest of the white knight manginas who have infested these boards of late, that what is being taught here involves trickery, deception, using women, and all manner of unethical behavior that will inevitably cause Teddy to have family problems if he pursues this..All the things that women think male game is about, by the way. NOTHING could be further from the truth. Despite chick logic being unable to process this concept, not falling for or putting up with female **** tests and all the other little hoops they think we are supposed to jump through along with awareness of and refusal to deal with their bull**** IS NOT THE SAME as not being gentlemen or treating them badly. That's, apparently, a really tough concept for women and some of you guys to grasp, for some reason. Hell, I once read a lengthy thread on a forum where women, basicly, likened men going NC to actual abuse. LOL. ANYTHING women don't like, most especially things they simultaneously hate and that empower men, they will say is morally and etchicly wrong (or immature LOL), but that does not make it so. But count on the white knight pvssies to eat it up with a spoon and ride in to save the day!

It has nothing to do with not understanding women. It's about not inventing bull**** roadblocks as excuses for inaction. There's always one available if you never want to find your nuts and game and ACT. Maybe she's nuts! Maybe she's really not hot he just thinks she is! Maybe those people standing there might hear me get shot down so I better not approach this girl who's been vibing me for the last hour! Maybe my brother in law might get his thong in a wad! Maybe she's this! Maybe she's that! Maybe! Maybe! Maybe! Maybe some of us are woman pandering white knight pvssies and need to not give bad advice.

It's been said by many all weekend....The manginas have GOT to go.
 
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