"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
would girls find a guy who doesn't drink not fun?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
You can still party with your friends and go dancing at clubs. No girl worth your time would turn you down because you don't drink.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
DonGorgon
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Have you ever gotten drunk before?The thing is... I have goals in life and my body is a temple. I workout/eat healthy...trying to build that ideal physique. I can't let temptations like alcohol ruin me, like it did to my father. I get addicted to things really easily...and just refraining from alcohol/smoking is great considering long-term health. I will pull *****es either way, but I would have to work twice as hard which I am determined to do....and it would save me a ****load of money, think about it....
Drink cranberry juice or diet pop to make it look like it's alcohol if you have to.
Two of my friends don't drink and I love going out with them. We'll order the bottle, they take shots of water and me and girls get loaded.
thedude4242
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
yeah plenty of times, I used to smoke marijuana regularly until I changed my ways for the best....now I'm just focusing on being the healthiest.JLay87 said:Have you ever gotten drunk before?
I learned from my mistakes...doing the same thing that you did before that ruined you is not wise in my books.
and in the end I'm largely benefiting myself as I will be saving a lot of money and looking great/feeling great. Whereas the rest/majority(who drink) will need to depend on Alcohol to bring their happiness when I will be finding other ways to bring happiness to my life. Excuse my rant lol
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
I guess you're saving money in a sense. But I don't know...the reason I make money is so that I can spend it on things that I enjoy.JJ109 said:for university...who says that without drinking, you're not getting your full experience? You make your life and your experiences, not what some social standards are.
and in the end I'm largely benefiting myself as I will be saving a lot of money and looking great/feeling great. Whereas the rest/majority(who drink) will need to depend on Alcohol to bring their happiness when I will be finding other ways to bring happiness to my life. Excuse my rant lol
If you choose not to buy music, you're saving money. If you choose to buy canned tuna instead of foods you enjoy, you're saving money. If you choose not to join a gym, you save money. I drank in college. But it ain't like I'd have $30k in my bank account if I didn't drink.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you don't enjoy alcohol, that's fair, and it's your choice. But, for the rest of us who do drink, it's not like we're blowing tens of thousands of dollars on it. If I go out 2 nights a week, I might spend $50 bucks on booze.
Seems like you had bad family experiences with alcohol and you're using your own personal negative experiences to say that ALL drinkers blow tons of cash on booze, and depend on it for happiness. It's not quite that bad...my food makes me happy, my guitar makes me happy, and going out drinking with my friends makes me happy....also, being sober with my friends makes me happy.
Iceberg said:I guess you're saving money in a sense. But I don't know...the reason I make money is so that I can spend it on things that I enjoy.
If you choose not to buy music, you're saving money. If you choose to buy canned tuna instead of foods you enjoy, you're saving money. If you choose not to join a gym, you save money. I drank in college. But it ain't like I'd have $30k in my bank account if I didn't drink.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you don't enjoy alcohol, that's fair, and it's your choice. But, for the rest of us who do drink, it's not like we're blowing tens of thousands of dollars on it. If I go out 2 nights a week, I might spend $50 bucks on booze.
Seems like you had bad family experiences with alcohol and you're using your own personal negative experiences to say that ALL drinkers blow tons of cash on booze, and depend on it for happiness. It's not quite that bad...my food makes me happy, my guitar makes me happy, and going out drinking with my friends makes me happy....also, being sober with my friends makes me happy.
there are just some things in life that I can't afford to slow me down as I'm already on my full pursuit of happiness.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
I'm not trying to make you drink, man. I'm just saying that people who drink don't necessarily blow a load of money on it, or depend on it for happiness. That's a bit extreme.JJ109 said:there are just some things in life that I can't afford to slow me down as I'm already on my full pursuit of happiness.
I already said that I get hooked on to things really easily. I was saying I would benefit by saving a **** load of money. lol read what you quoted on your post above.Iceberg said:I'm not trying to make you drink, man. I'm just saying that people who drink don't necessarily blow a load of money on it, or depend on it for happiness. That's a bit extreme.
Anyways, I don't really agree with your whole "I want to keep my body healthy/pure" crap because that's all it is; you can be healthy and drink. So that's a sh!t excuse. However, I can understand the addiction thing because I have that same kind of thing running in my family and if I even came close to getting hooked I'd stop right away for the rest of my life.
So in the end it's your decision, and **** what everyone else thinks about it.
Diaforetikos
Senior Don Juan
But you do have to learn to be just as fun as you would if you were perked or drunk. Women like fun. Plain and simple. If you have a strong inner game, then you shouldn't have to worry.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.