"I just moved here from Florida."

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She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

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I've had more girls tell me they don't care for big muscles than tell me they are attracted to big muscles. Some of the biggest muscle guys I've ran across tend to be highly insecure with themselves and lacking personality. ;-)
Yeah they say that but people also say "its whats on the inside that counts" basically its BS. Every girl i have sex with comments on my physique and how much they love it.


Muscles only attract attention from other dudes. The vast majority amount of girls do not give two **** about how big your guns are. Workout because you want to improve yourself in your own eyes, not of a woman's.
Again not true. Any guy who has been average, and then asthetic will tell you different. I think its mostly perpetrated by people too lazy to work out.
 

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Yeah they say that but people also say "its whats on the inside that counts" basically its BS. Every girl i have sex with comments on my physique and how much they love it.




Again not true. Any guy who has been average, and then asthetic will tell you different. I think its mostly perpetrated by people too lazy to work out.
Listen everybody....its not true, because INFERNO said so! I stand corrected. And Trainwreck better take it back too. Gyms will now be packed with dudes trying to look like roided up meat heads.

And I've never had one tell me "its whats on the inside counts"!
 

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Listen everybody....its not true, because INFERNO said so! I stand corrected. And Trainwreck better take it back too. Gyms will now be packed with dudes trying to look like roided up meat heads.

And I've never had one tell me "its whats on the inside counts"!
It's not even that I'm trying to look like I'm roided up brah, you're gonna tell me that going from looking like an auschwitz survivor and toothpick thin, to more lean with some muscle isn't gonna help with girls thinking I'm hot and wanna talk more?
 

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It's not even that I'm trying to look like I'm roided up brah, you're gonna tell me that going from looking like an auschwitz survivor and toothpick thin, to more lean with some muscle isn't gonna help with girls thinking I'm hot and wanna talk more?
Did I say "lean with some muscle" isn't going to help??? Where did I say that at? My lord some of you take everything personal and are super sensitive. And your reading comprehension is horrendous as well. No wonder you can't understand women.

Let me restate it for you........I said "roided up meat heads". They aren't attractive to women. I hear it all the time. I'm one of those guys that is lean with some decent muscle definition, but nothing meathead like.
 

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Did I say "lean with some muscle" isn't going to help??? Where did I say that at? My lord some of you take everything personal and are super sensitive. And your reading comprehension is horrendous as well. No wonder you can't understand women.

Let me restate it for you........I said "roided up meat heads". They aren't attractive to women. I hear it all the time. I'm one of those guys that is lean with some decent muscle definition, but nothing meathead like.
Yeah they say that but people also say "its whats on the inside that counts" basically its BS. Every girl i have sex with comments on my physique and how much they love it.




Again not true. Any guy who has been average, and then asthetic will tell you different. I think its mostly perpetrated by people too lazy to work out.
Yeah they say that but people also say "its whats on the inside that counts" basically its BS. Every girl i have sex with comments on my physique and how much they love it.




Again not true. Any guy who has been average, and then asthetic will tell you different. I think its mostly perpetrated by people too lazy to work out.
Inferno, how you said it makes "game" easier with them, what would you say is different or changes about it? Do they try to move things along faster with you? As I said, I've heard some aesthetic guys say that they've had girls start touching and feeling their body, they're more receptive to what you say. I know you're mostly supposed to still do the approaching. As you also said I'm trying to improve flirting and game skills along with developing an aesthetic body.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Yeah they say that but people also say "its whats on the inside that counts" basically its BS. Every girl i have sex with comments on my physique and how much they love it.




Again not true. Any guy who has been average, and then asthetic will tell you different. I think its mostly perpetrated by people too lazy to work out.
I do workout and I am muscular. The only attention I get are from other dudes lol. Girls could care less about how big your muscles are because they don't give a ****.
 

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Listen everybody....its not true, because INFERNO said so! I stand corrected. And Trainwreck better take it back too. Gyms will now be packed with dudes trying to look like roided up meat heads.

And I've never had one tell me "its whats on the inside counts"!
Got damn you have some serious anger issues.

You could stop projecting your anger and just go work out bro, wouldnt want one of thise "roided up meatheads" to jack your girl would ya
 

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I do workout and I am muscular. The only attention I get are from other dudes lol. Girls could care less about how big your muscles are because they don't give a ****.
Since you answered like an adult rather than that other guy who is behaving like the monkey at the zoo throwing his jizz at everyone, i'll respond with some respect.

All i would say is that's your subjective experience, in mine and many others it has made a definate difference, i would say there is more evidence that it does make a difference than it doesnt.

You say you have the same success now as before, to me that suggests you were succesful before so you may have great game.
 

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Inferno, how you said it makes "game" easier with them, what would you say is different or changes about it? Do they try to move things along faster with you? As I said, I've heard some aesthetic guys say that they've had girls start touching and feeling their body, they're more receptive to what you say. I know you're mostly supposed to still do the approaching. As you also said I'm trying to improve flirting and game skills along with developing an aesthetic body.
In my experience i get a lot more indicators of interest, girls will initiate kino a lot more, and i also get DIRECT approaches from girls (although these do tend to be freak girls more than decent ones, but still good for a lay) they will hit up my dm's or approach me in the club.

An example was a couple if weeks ago i was talking to my friend in the club when a hb8 comes up to me and backs up into my chest, her friend who came with her said "she wants to **** you"

It doesnt get any easier than that.

Now, this isnt ALL the time, but it happens enough to be significant. And this sort of thing NEVER happened before i trained seriously.
 

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I actually did bulked up once and gained like 30 lbs while doing a cycle. The kinds of women I attracted were different. They were the ones into douchebags. And the qulity nice chicks thought I was too much of an as$hole.

Nowadays I am more lean and feel like I am at my sweet spot. If you want to bulk up for women, it ain't worth it. Steroids are expensive and risky. Also, you would have to eat 6 meals a day. I hate eating that much. I am a natural ectomorph, and at my most fit, my ideal body type is Brad Pitt in fight club. Lean and super ripped, but not overly bulky where clothes no longer fit.
Can i also echo what this guy said.

I think there may have been some confusion here, im not saying become a 250lb meathead, i'm talking an athletic, strong and lean physique.

Think this





And not this


 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Can i also echo what this guy said.

I think there may have been some confusion here, im not saying become a 250lb meathead, i'm talking an athletic, strong and lean physique.

Think this





And not this


Exactly, that is what I said from the start! You are catching on! And I'm there 5days a week. No worries BRO
 
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Listen everybody....its not true, because INFERNO said so! I stand corrected. And Trainwreck better take it back too. Gyms will now be packed with dudes trying to look like roided up meat heads.

And I've never had one tell me "its whats on the inside counts"!
You don't start going to the gym and then wake up one day as a "roided up meat head." That takes years of dedication. It also takes steroids.

Phizzeek, you should read Pook's post in The DJ Bible about bulking up.

At your height, at 120 you're super skinny. Start working out for yourself. It takes years to put on a decent amount of muscle, but you'll see benefits well before that. After a few months, you'll look in the mirror and see a different man; you'll suddenly feel more confident around women and men.

Once you start setting goals and achieving them from week to week it will change your personality.
 
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I agree that you don't necessarily get laid because you're muscular, but you're definitely more likely to stumble into getting laid if you are.
 
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I do workout and I am muscular. The only attention I get are from other dudes lol. Girls could care less about how big your muscles are because they don't give a ****.
If you were suddenly 30 pounds underweight, I think you'd see just how little girls could care.
 

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You don't start going to the gym and then wake up one day as a "roided up meat head." That takes years of dedication. It also takes steroids.

Phizzeek, you should read Pook's post in The DJ Bible about bulking up.

At your height, at 120 you're super skinny. Start working out for yourself. It takes years to put on a decent amount of muscle, but you'll see benefits well before that. After a few months, you'll look in the mirror and see a different man; you'll suddenly feel more confident around women and men.

Once you start setting goals and achieving them from week to week it will change your personality.
Yeah I'm pretty skinny and scrawny lol, do you think it would make a difference with women, I've had some people tell me if I got to around 160 lean it would look good and would have an impact with women.
 

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You don't start going to the gym and then wake up one day as a "roided up meat head." That takes years of dedication. It also takes steroids.

Phizzeek, you should read Pook's post in The DJ Bible about bulking up.

At your height, at 120 you're super skinny. Start working out for yourself. It takes years to put on a decent amount of muscle, but you'll see benefits well before that. After a few months, you'll look in the mirror and see a different man; you'll suddenly feel more confident around women and men.

Once you start setting goals and achieving them from week to week it will change your personality.
I was just looking at pooks post, he was saying about how he can get women and their attention from mostly his physique alone without having to try much. Some people have told me I'd have an aesthetic body at around 160lbs 10-8% bf. Do you have tips or examples of how to "game" them I'm trying to improve flirting and game but I've heard it changes when you have a desirable body.
 
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I was just looking at pooks post, he was saying about how he can get women and their attention from mostly his physique alone without having to try much. Some people have told me I'd have an aesthetic body at around 160lbs 10-8% bf. Do you have tips or examples of how to "game" them I'm trying to improve flirting and game but I've heard it changes when you have a desirable body.
Practice.
 

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Practice.
I gotcha on that. What do you think about what pook said? Do you believe that is true and that occurs when you have an aesthetic/desirable body. Like I said I definitely don't have an ugly face or anything like that. I've had attention from girls previously as well.
 

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I was just looking at pooks post, he was saying about how he can get women and their attention from mostly his physique alone without having to try much
Before he started working out, Pook said he could get women without doing much because he was tall and good looking. Pook had some good ideas, but I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.
 

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Before he started working out, Pook said he could get women without doing much because he was tall and good looking. Pook had some good ideas, but I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.
Yeah that's exactly what I'm doing with that. I'm not putting too much into what he said lol.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

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