"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Worst wingman ever

El MonoLoco

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Ok so after a really long night at work last night me and one of my co-workers decided to hit up a bar for some bloody mary's.

Now usually when I get off work there is nothing open but Wal-Mart ( its 24hrs). I don't hang out at wally world so since this bar opens at 6am it's not such a bad place to relax after work. But it's usually the last place you'd ever see a girl at 8 or 9 in the morning. We didn't get off until 8 so a drink sounded good.

Right when we got there I noticed 2 things that were differnt than the usual old guy or 2 hangin at the bar. The bar actually had more than a couple people in it. But that's not what caught my attention. The first thing was the new bartender. A fairly cute early 30's chick with a nice rack and ass. Then second what looked to be a pair of lesbians at the bar. One was an older blonde with an OK body ( not so ok face) and a cute brunette.

Now for me this was a pleasant suprise because like I said before this place is usually the last place I'd expect to see a chick at that time in the morning...

We get a couple of bloody mary's and I make quick small talk about what's playin on the TV behind the bar with the bartender and then with the brunette who then leaves to go mess with the jukebox. My friend and I don't really want to hang out at the bar with the old dudes so we grab a booth right behind where the two girls are sitting. The brunette goes back to the bar and then the blonde goes to the jukebox but she is there for like 15 minutes. During this I notice the brunette looking back a couple of times (maybe she's not a lesbo after all) so I invite her to our booth if she's bored of waiting for her friend.....I figured she would just ignore me. My friend thought I was being stupid. But she took a look at her friend who was still stuck on the jukebox and came over.

I'm thinking it's on. My friend couldn't believe that she came over to the table. So we introduce ourselves and I start in on some funny convo. makin fun of her friend for falling in love with the juke box.....Bla bla bla Then her friend comes over and sits with us.

This is were things go sour. I'm doing what ever I can to keep these 2 girls talking and they do. The blonde even knew a little bit about the place where my friend and I work from her friend who does biz with our company...I'm thinkin great an easy way to keep something in common, sort of. So the convo keeps goin and I start getting them to talk about themselves and what not. But my friend ( rather co-worker) just clams up. I mean silent. He's off staring at the TV. Just ignoring all 3 of us. I even tried to get him to say stuff and he just wouldn't. Then the brunette decided she had to have a smoke so her and her friend went outside. Mean while we get another drink and talk to the bartender for a second.

Now usually if I'm tryin to throw some game at girl I'm interested in and she wanted to go have a smoke I would have joined her but I wanted to try something. I wanted to see how interested this girl really was so I waited to see if they came back. I don't know if this was dumb or not I didn't really care. They do come back but not to our booth, the brunette said they were going to sit at the bar again. They weren't there for more than a min before they bounced out. (at least the brunette said goodbye) Again I would usually try to have gotten the # either outside or as they were leaving, but I was trying to figure something out.

Would those 2 girls have come back to our table and continued the convo if my co-worker would have at least made an attempt to converse with them?
Or were they just not interested?

I went with the first one and called him on it.........

He conterdicts himself by saying that he wasn't interested in talking to or meeting anyone at the time, but the brunette was cute and the blonde had a HOT body.
I'm thinking wtf?
Its 9am in the morning....We never see any women at this time of the day, at least in this situation......You think at least one of them is attractive.....help a brotha out and lets see if we can't have some fun with these two....

Granted he was sort of stuck with the grenade since the brunette sat next to me ( I scooted over so she could sit down) but I was doin all the work and he thought the blonde had a hot body so what's the deal?

I should also mention here that homeboyz track record of women aren't really what I would call quality....more like his 8's are my 5's....feel me. We have different tastes but hey at the time I'd rather talk to those two than to a bunch of old drunks, even if they were lesbos.

I talked about this with some of my other friends a little later and they agreed that requardless of your own personal feelings at the time if you get tossed into a situation like that it's best to help out your homey. They would have done it for me, as I them.

Also I'd like to mention here that usually I would have at least attempted to close either by going outside or as they were leaving, but I was testing something out here. I'm not complaining that I didn't get the #.

I just want to know what you guys think about all this?
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Everyone lives their own life. You can't expect him to talk to people when he doesn't feel like it. It's not like he's signed a contract with you. I mean it was 8am i the morning, he was probably tired.
 

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Sounds like a full on AFC to me. Thats just an excuse. Anytime is good to talk to girls. At lease be socialable. If not why be at a pub....drink at home.

Get a proper wingman.

My wing used to be a AFC. I feel he is getting better thow. He still suffers from oneitis but I feel once hes over that I will have a solid wingman with potental.
 

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Ok so what about 8 in the morning its like 8pm to us .....we work nights.

tosh...if you were out with a friend ....anywhere.....and he started to pick on a girl or in this case 2 wouldn't you at least join in on the conversation?

In my opinion he made me look like a dud.
 

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Originally posted by El MonoLoco
Ok so what about 8 in the morning its like 8pm to us .....we work nights.

tosh...if you were out with a friend ....anywhere.....and he started to pick on a girl or in this case 2 wouldn't you at least join in on the conversation?

In my opinion he made me look like a dud.
I would, of course, but not everyone is the same. All I'm saying is that he didn't NOT talk to them out of spite or anything. He was either shy or intimidated or whatever, so I wouldn't hold it against him. He's probably just not the best person to use as a wingman.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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El MonoLoco

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No he's not really wingman material....

Not really the super social type like me .....more of a poker buddy.

I usually go out to clubs and stuff with my other friends. We were just out for a drink after work.

Besides like 98 out of 100 guys would love to just have convo's with girls for no reason at all other than good company.
Orignally I thought she was lookin at him and was tryin to do him a favor by bringing her over. He didn't see her lookin back. So when she did come to the table and he did nothing I figured I'd have a go at it.....the things I do for other people.

What a shmuck.
 

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Originally posted by El MonoLoco
No he's not really wingman material....

Not really the super social type like me .....more of a poker buddy.

I usually go out to clubs and stuff with my other friends. We were just out for a drink after work.

Besides like 98 out of 100 guys would love to just have convo's with girls for no reason at all other than good company.
Orignally I thought she was lookin at him and was tryin to do him a favor by bringing her over. He didn't see her lookin back. So when she did come to the table and he did nothing I figured I'd have a go at it.....the things I do for other people.

What a shmuck.
Hello? Thats exactly what i said in my second post. Get a proper wingman. Not some AFC who will just make you look stupid because hes to shy to talk to something that aint got a penis.

Im sure hes a nice guy....but you dont want him in that roll. You dont use your lawn mower to wash the dishes....
 

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Yea I know

I wasn't sargin or nothin it just kinda happened and he was there. Not my usual wingmen.


and yes I would use a lawn mower to do the dishes.....Damn thing ate my toes and sometimes the dishes gotta go!
 

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Originally posted by El MonoLoco
No he's not really wingman material....

Not really the super social type like me .....more of a poker buddy.

I usually go out to clubs and stuff with my other friends. We were just out for a drink after work.

Besides like 98 out of 100 guys would love to just have convo's with girls for no reason at all other than good company.
Orignally I thought she was lookin at him and was tryin to do him a favor by bringing her over. He didn't see her lookin back. So when she did come to the table and he did nothing I figured I'd have a go at it.....the things I do for other people.

What a shmuck.
youre a ****
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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You think your "wingman" sucks? I've had friends completely turn their back to me and give 110% attention to the girls AFC Kung Fu style... not to mention this other cat whose opener was "I'll just cut the crap, I think you guys are gorgeous". Yeah, lovely turnout.

At least by being silent your guy wasn't sabotaging you directly. Thing is, if you would have been entertaining enough to capture both girls' attention, your wing wouldn't have been a problem. Don't hold it against him, he obviously doesn't know this material. Work on your skills instead.
 

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Gonzalo -
That's what I was trying to do....I'm not all that great at picking up women yet or even getting the digits.....
I just felt that in some way he wasn't helping......


Here's to learning:up:
 
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