"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Worst night ever with girls!!!

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Oh god, after meeting many many many girls from the past 3 or4 years i have never come in contact with true "high maintenance"! I never understood the concept of this term until yesterday.

Well, I wake up yesterday afternoon and go to a friend's house to buy some more hash.


While I was waiting, some people called and they were coming over. It ended up being another friend but he brought over an HB5.6 and HB7.8 These girls were good looking but as it ended up they were sort of quiet. Well, after a little while I went and took a shower and came back but this time no guys were there. Just these 2 girls who I barely knew. And so I come in and immediately sit down in between them on the couch. We start having fluff talk and find out right away that these girls get bored easily. I find out they are all about drugs and sh*t. I'm not all about drugs, just weed. Anyhow I'm trying to get them to open up and they seem to think they're better than me for a while. I neg the hot girl by commenting on her shoes by saying how dangerous they seemed or something like what I read here. From there I opened them up a little bit. Just a little bit because I was starting to get bored of their unwillingness to talk. It felt aweful for a while. I basically made myself at home by plopping myself in between them without asking and now a lot of the things that usually work a little, aren't working. I was starting to feel awkward and this emanated onto them. After a few more minutes, the hot girl comments on her hair and I reach and run my fingers through her hair. At first she gave me a little look of surprise and then she didn't care. This is when the boys came back and I went to work. I was at work sort of kicking myself for not doing something which I didn't know what it was.

3rd meeting encounter with these girls was after work. They were still over there. These girls were looking for some ecstacy or something to get ****ed up on. I felt the need to get an easy lay if possible even if it meant for me to hook em up with some drugs. I called a few people and got one for them. and so I get them to drive me over to this place. They had a nice car.

We drive and I notice that they were starting to open up to me when it was just us 3. But then as if they were too scared to relax, they would get cold again. It was like trying to start a fire over and over again. we got the ecstacy pill(they paid). and they needed some juice from the store. They parked the car and I got out but they weren't getting out. They thought I was gonna go in by myself like an AFC and BUY their **** right?!! well wrong!
I told them to stop being losers and go in with me. They did! Just when I thought they were too cold to be alive, they do something I say on my command. They apparently weren't totally f*cking clueless. We walk in the store and I start giving them a story about the store and when i worked there. At the same time I was very nervous because again I've never dealt with girls who are considered high maintenance. It was awkward the whole time but I tried to keep my composure and talk. They talked a little but at the same time they opened up they would get cold again. This was getting to be like a rubber band being stretched and it bound to snap soon...We got to the juice aisle and they start worrying about the different kinds. I neg them again about their undecisiveness and what not and get them laughing. HOLY **** THEY LAUGH?!

On our way out we make chat with some ppl and we get in the car and again they go cold. and after about a minute I comment on their sense of direction and we start talking **** to each other playfully for a second. And then as they are starting to have a little bit of fun, they go cold again. We arrive back at the apartment and then they got cold again but this time they stayed cold longer. They took their pill and sat down with a big glass of orange juice and sat their in impatience. The girls are wondering what they can do because they bored. and so I suggested every thing possible as my friend did also and they didn't want to do anything we suggested. and we asked what they considered fun and they didn't ****ing know! They were totally f*cking boring! And then the hot girl started complaining and asked "why do you ask so many questions?" and I replied "what did you have for breakfast?"

Sounded really stupid but it cracked everyone up.

anyways I figure, why don't I talk to my friend some more and see if this will get them to talk to. And so me and my friend start having a conversation and a few minutes later they actually started talking. We started to finally vibe but then as they were feeling the vibe, they got cold again. I finally got pissed of being around with these girls for just about the whole day without getting no p*ssy. and so I got up after the hot girl b*tched again and said "you know what, it's boring because YOU'RE BORING and so I'm going to sleep. When you guys decide to get real, come back! good night." and so they apparently are very spoiled girls and this only knocked them off the pedestal they thought they were on. We all stood in an awkward silence for 20 minutes. Now it was 3 in the morning. We've been sitting for 4 hours not doing sh*t! Why are these girls still here. and so I kick them out. ON their way out, I told them to give me their numbers and they did. And as I was getting them to leave they told me I was very sweet and they started talking like they didn't want to leave. F*CK THAT! The whole day consisted of pondering on the thought that if these girls are not willing to do absolutely anything that is considered fun for normal human beings except for sex, would they just f*ck? And all today I've been cranky because I was sleepy from hanging out with girls I didn't f*ck. If this is the definition of high maintenance women, should a DJ even bother with them? Was I doing the right thing? Should I have made a move on them despite not knowing them for so long? Many questions, but all I know is I've never met chicks like this. Dumb, impatient, can't be satisfiyed, lots and lots of baggage from the get go. What should I do if I see them again? Should try to kiss on of them? I have a good feeling I'm going to come in contact with these h*ebags again..

any tips, rants, insults, and compliments are welcome!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I wouldn't mess with these girls unless you just want a one night stand. All the drugs they are involved with are bad news. Raise your standards some. Having dated a drug addict before, I can tell you that the easy way to get laid is to invite one of them over to your house and buy the drug of her choice, you will get laid for sure. Of course then you will have a drug addict that wants to hang out at your house all the time.
 
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and this is why they are f*cking spoiled! They get free drugs from all these other so called big shots in the joke of a drug game around my town. i have a good feeling they just go around smoking everyone's sh*t and leaving...
 

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Either the x was not good stuff, or they take it so often that they have built up a giant tolerance, which sounds more likely. They should have been your own private dancers for several hours. Most people don't take x and sit there like zombies.
 
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that wasn't the point though. These girls were like a game in which i would get to level 2 or 3 and then get killed, and then start over again to die in the same place.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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These girls are drug wh0res. I spent a little time in Richmond, which is a really dumpy college town that is saturated with drugs. While I was there for a few months, I bought and sold any drug that came my way and I met some girls like this. They will only be sweet to you if you have a pill in your pocket, and if you have a 10 stack of pills they will be your girlfriend for the night. They will follow you around until you cant get any more, then they will forget you. They have nothing going on, no real lives no motivation, and very little in their head. They have some friends, get a little casual sex, and take any drug you give them.

The joke about breakfast, do you know why this was so funny to them? Because they dont eat breakfast, girls like this go to 7-11 once or twice a day, eat maybe a burrito or a bag of candy, because all the E and speed and coke and cigarettes kill their appetite. Anyway it's easy to get girls like this if you have a whole LOT of drugs, but then all you'll have gotten is another person to smoke all your weed, drink all your whisky and eat all your pills.

ps. those were not fun times.
 

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Dimebag_Darrell said:
that wasn't the point though. These girls were like a game in which i would get to level 2 or 3 and then get killed, and then start over again to die in the same place.
Just remember, you're not Super Mario, you can't rely on the other two lives he has. Move on. :)
 

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BTW, I dated a drug-loving chick recently. Got stoned off some weed at a party and expected me to **** her in front of 30+ folks that were in the hallway, in front of our room, that had wanted to get in.
I have principles, and I have standards. This was below all standards and against all principles. I said no. I'm one proud mother****er right now. And I don't care about the *****.
Get it?
 

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The biggest downside to drugs is not the actual drugs themselves, but the people you meet. If those girls got busted, they would narc on anyone.
 
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superchristx said:
These girls are drug wh0res. I spent a little time in Richmond, which is a really dumpy college town that is saturated with drugs. While I was there for a few months, I bought and sold any drug that came my way and I met some girls like this. They will only be sweet to you if you have a pill in your pocket, and if you have a 10 stack of pills they will be your girlfriend for the night. They will follow you around until you cant get any more, then they will forget you. They have nothing going on, no real lives no motivation, and very little in their head. They have some friends, get a little casual sex, and take any drug you give them.

The joke about breakfast, do you know why this was so funny to them? Because they dont eat breakfast, girls like this go to 7-11 once or twice a day, eat maybe a burrito or a bag of candy, because all the E and speed and coke and cigarettes kill their appetite. Anyway it's easy to get girls like this if you have a whole LOT of drugs, but then all you'll have gotten is another person to smoke all your weed, drink all your whisky and eat all your pills.

ps. those were not fun times.

Yeah and you're dead on with these girls. Everything you described was them. Like, with breakfast they got stuck up and said they didn't have enough time to eat breakfast. yeah whatever shut yo ass hoe!.

I noticed that all they would talk about was drugs, mainly downers. And so I started asking about ecstacy and see if I could use some NLP in the sense that the drug is supposed to make you feel very good. They ate this up and started describing the effects of it and their cute faces lit up. It was the only time i felt they were being sincere asides from their b*tchin and moaning..
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Man this is all wrong....

1. It doesn't sound like these girls are high maintence. If they were they would have clean out your fridge, made you buy the pills, made you drive, made you buy their juice, etc.....that's high maintnence.

2. You asked too many questions to these chick you didn't really know. Instead of finding out what they want to do, just do something you want to do, if they follow along great if not their loss....get it?

3. Please stop talking about all your drug escapades in this forum, it's not really the place. No body really cares about what you or your prospective sleeping partners are putting into their body.

Side note........
not all drug dealers are disgusting aweful people, neither are the people who partake in such activities. if you're having problems with these types of people don't hang around them or associate yourself with them, simple........and never take people you don't know or anyone for that matter to your dealers house you or they might end up really hurt or dead.....trust me.
 
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El MonoLoco said:
Man this is all wrong....

1. It doesn't sound like these girls are high maintence. If they were they would have clean out your fridge, made you buy the pills, made you drive, made you buy their juice, etc.....that's high maintnence.

2. You asked too many questions to these chick you didn't really know. Instead of finding out what they want to do, just do something you want to do, if they follow along great if not their loss....get it?

3. Please stop talking about all your drug escapades in this forum, it's not really the place. No body really cares about what you or your prospective sleeping partners are putting into their body.

Side note........
not all drug dealers are disgusting aweful people, neither are the people who partake in such activities. if you're having problems with these types of people don't hang around them or associate yourself with them, simple........and never take people you don't know or anyone for that matter to your dealers house you or they might end up really hurt or dead.....trust me.
Ok maybe they werent high maintenance but they sure as hell seemed like it. And maybe I was wrong by asking them a bunch of questions, but the f*ck am i supposed to do besides that. They were boring chicks. And I know that nobody truly cares about my "escapades" but I can post about them here if I want to, but i truly don't. Real drug dealers are very bright and business savvy folks. And I did not take these girls to a dealer. A friend had some ex and he sold them some. No big deal.

Overall, if you don't like what i post just move on dude..
 

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why didnt you use the drugs as blackmail to get some pvssy? You could have atleast got them to eat each other out while you beat off in return for some drugs?
 

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saki said:
why didnt you use the drugs as blackmail to get some pvssy? You could have atleast got them to eat each other out while you beat off in return for some drugs?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Quote of the year.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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