Working Past Her Denying You

[Paid Laid & Made]

Okay.

Going over to my GF's house tommorow. She has morals and ethics, is fairly good looking. She will let me start, but quickly stops me and goes into a speech about how she feels dirty and its to wrong.

How can I work past this and make her feel better about the situation. I am getting tired of being the nice guy and walking away wihtout the goods, I dont see anything wrong with our situation.

Anybody have any slick phrases which are going to make her relax and go with the flow?

Thanks Playas.

 

[pulchritudinous chum]

I'm just posting to make this thread go back to the top- I want to know what I could say to make a girl relax more when messing around besides the obvious kino tricks which don't always work.

 

[Rufio]

I'm in a similar situation and would appreciate some words of wisdom..

Pushing harder seems to push them away, and not doing anything leads to very, very blue balls

 

[JustDoItAlways]

Here is a good discussion on the topic.


http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12778&highlight=strict+discussion

 

[Paid Laid & Made]

Thanks.

Still anybody, give us some thoughts. I would love to be enlightened on some techniques which have been applied in real life situations.

Let's be real, KINO is not always received well, especially with these kind of girls.

 

[uniassign]

how she feels dirty and its to wrong

This could be a case of ASD (Anti-Sl*t Defense) or LMR (Last Minute Resistance). Both of these obstacles arise at the last stage of a seduction, but dealing with the respective problem requires different tactics.

ASD is a fear of being viewed as a wh0re by society. Don't get the chick wrong, she wants to do all these things, but her LOGICAL brain is stopping her.

Solution: Assign ALL blame to yourself or to another third party. This way, chick logic will kick in and she will rationalise that she is not a sl*t because of <insert whatever you do>

For example, you could play strip poker. You can play truth or dare, with the dares getting more and more sexual. You could try alcohol. Anything that she can assign blame to. Anything to take her OUT of her USUAL CHARACTER. That way, she will rationalise that it was her OTHER SELF that was the who)re.

LMR on the other hand has to do with the fact that she is not really that comfortable with you yet. Again, she wants to do these things, but is mindful of the consequences.

Mystery and others have devised a whole load of LMR tactics:

1. just agree with her. eg:

HB: We shouldn't do this
U: You are right. Continue kissing her.

The rationale for doing this is that her complaint is not real, it is a token complaint because she is aware of the consequences. (CAUTION: We shouldn't do this is NOT STOP. IF SHE SAYS STOP THEN YOU SHOULD STOP!

 

[uniassign]

how she feels dirty and its to wrong

This could be a case of ASD (Anti-Sl*t Defense) or LMR (Last Minute Resistance). Both of these obstacles arise at the last stage of a seduction, but dealing with the respective problem requires different tactics.

ASD is a fear of being viewed as a wh0re by society. Don't get the chick wrong, she wants to do all these things, but her LOGICAL brain is stopping her.

Solution: Assign ALL blame to yourself or to another third party. This way, chick logic will kick in and she will rationalise that she is not a sl*t because of <insert whatever you do>

For example, you could play strip poker. You can play truth or dare, with the dares getting more and more sexual. You could try alcohol. Anything that she can assign blame to. Anything to take her OUT of her USUAL CHARACTER. That way, she will rationalise that it was her OTHER SELF that was the who)re.

LMR on the other hand has to do with the fact that she is not really that comfortable with you yet. Again, she wants to do these things, but is mindful of the consequences.

Mystery and others have devised a whole load of LMR tactics:

1. just agree with her. eg:

HB: We shouldn't do this
U: You are right. Continue kissing her.

The rationale for doing this is that her complaint is not real, it is a token complaint because she is aware of the consequences. (CAUTION: We shouldn't do this is NOT STOP. IF SHE SAYS STOP THEN YOU SHOULD STOP!

2. freeze out

HB: I don't think we should be doing this
U: You are right. <turn on the light. watch TV, or fix yourself a cup of tea>

The rationale for doing this is punishment and reward. She is feeling good whilst making out. When she says she should not do this, then STOP all good feelings. She will be bored, and she is horney. She WILL start kissing you again. Then just keep proceeding.

I am thinking it is the ASD you have to worry about tomorrow. Have fun

 

[Paid Laid & Made]

Great Strategies.

I seriously believe this will work. I know the girl really digs me and well ... she felt horrible for DENYING me twice ... she knows that if she does not give me a little wiggle room, things will take a horrible turn. I dated her best friend and she would not do anything and the end of that relationship was a train wreck. She invited me over just to mess around ... I feel like she is being forced into doing stuff, due to her knowing I get frustrated when rejected and she does not want to loose me.

Wish Me luck For Tommorow. I will post my experiences / thoughts once I try your strategy.

 

[Paid Laid & Made]

Yeah, God does hate me.

We had a great conversation about our day and I check if she does want to hang today. She is very excited and says ofcourse. I ask her what type of underwear she is wearing and she tell me regular black panties ... I am like okay, she told me that she wears thongs.

I tell her that I am disappointed and she comes back with this ...

"I am sorry, not like you get to go down thurr anyways, I am on my period and that's just gross"

I WAS NOT AWARE SHE IS ON HER PERIOD. Automatically she crushed any hopes of anything happening, I have maybe a pity makeout session coming ... forgot that. I dont want anything female pity.

I am ticked, she did not have the courtesy to enlighten me on her female problems before our alone time. Leaving me to believe that I am nothing but an AFC chump to her, who should just suck it up and live with it. Luckily I asked the question.