"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"Working" in groups

How do YOU like to "work"?

  • Alone

    Votes: 7 50.0%
  • In Groups

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Both

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • I'm still learning how to "work", so i dont do either, yet

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    14

Climax

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Have any of you got a group of friends, and work as a "team" to get chicks etc? any interesting stories that you have to tell about this?

Eg: Me and my friends all go up tp a group of chicks, and there is ONE of us that is going for ONE of the girls in that group, then all my friends would talk to her friends while i seduce the b!tch! ... Thats one of the many ways in which i work in groups with my friends in order to get chicks... This thread is for giving idea's to all Don Juans here and to widen our knowlege and give eachother idea's...

Knock yourselves out;)


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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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So pimp its scary

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I dunno about the rest, but if I'm going out as a team effort, its no fun if only one of the guys manages to pull.
 

Don_Joffe

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In a club I enjoy working ALONE but if the chicks are in groups at a bar or shopping mall then a team effort is always good, divide and conquer.
 

Rex Man

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Yay for groups

To me groups are more fun because their a little competitive and
that adds to it IMO.

Also, assuming your friends are pretty cool you got the advantage of

1) being comfortable

2) Instant proof that your not lame

3) Support system if you get rejected (you really don't care as much)

Two things to wacth out for IMO

1) Snakes (those guys who get too jealous and screw you up intentionally)

2) Bears (those guys who starts arguing w/ the girls for whatever reasons)
 

Mr. Mystery II

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I usually end up meeting girls when I'm out with friends and I break away from the group. But there is one guy that is an awesome wingman that I really enjoy going out with. We play perfectly off each other but we do just as well when we are seperate. I think thats the key to a good wingman. You shouldn't have to depend on them and they shouldn't have to depend on you, you should just be able to play off each other well.

Mr. Mystery
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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AverageFC

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I'd like to work with a group, it'd be easier to make sure everyone fulfills a goal of some sort, but I'm the only single guy I know!(even though most of my non-single friends are AFC with their girls)
 

PRMoon

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I'll do it either way.

I like to go out alone to keep myself in practice. Plus you can't argue it's easier to bring a girl home when you don't have anyone else with an alternate agenda. Going out alone also lets you be versitile. You can go a bunch of different ways to pick a variety of girls with the only competition being people you don't know.

On the other hand, I am a big fan of my wingmen. They do a great deal for me. They'll bring girls to me, point out opportunities that I might of missed otherwise, talk me up in a situation. Wingmen will do a lot for you as long as they know not to step on your toes. Not to mention all of us have our own connections to get places so it helps when you have someone who knows.

Either way you should be prepared to be at the top of your game in either situation and neither should be an excuse as to why you didn't acheive a kill.
 
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