"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Women's Infidelity - Anyone read it?

Jariel

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I've just finished reading a book called Women's Infidelity by Michelle Langley.

It's based around 100s of interviews with unfaithful women and goes into the reasons why they cheat on their husbands and the cruel, cold and downright evil behaviour they can often resort to. It will make you cynical, but it is very enlightening. It is one of those books many of us more optimistic guys need to read in order to learn the true nature of women and to prepare us for it.

As a matter of fact, it support a lot of what is taught on this forum and is a very good incentive to adopt the player/jerk mentality.

Anyone else read it and have any thoughts on it?

A small quote from the book...

The women were using their spouses as anchors while they were out scouting and building new relationships. The acceptance of this behavior by their husbands created an inflated, false sense of power in the women. Some of the women were rather arrogant. They seemed to be using their husband’s devotion as a means to attract a new mate. By describing how heartbroken their husbands were they made themselves more attractive to their lovers. Their husband’s grief became an advertisement. And when the women in this situation felt threatened—in other words, when they suspected that their husbands were starting to move on—they reached out to their husbands emotionally and/or sexually. The women were still very jealous at this point, and if their husbands showed any interest in other women they would in effect “mark their territory.” Unfortunately though, this jealousy encouraged their husbands to feel hopeful.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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Jariel said:
It's based around 100s of interviews with unfaithful women and goes into the reasons why they cheat on their husbands and the cruel, cold and downright evil behaviour they can often resort to. It will make you cynical, but it is very enlightening. It is one of those books many of us more optimistic guys need to read in order to learn the true nature of women and to prepare us for it.
Where you see "cruel, cold, and evil"....I see Biology working at its finest. Too many guys on SS are here to vilify women and never seek the answers to why women act certain ways. They just see a woman leave a man for another and automatically condemn the woman. The thing is...women are not fully aware of their actions per say. Its their biology to seek out an alpha male. So when they marry a guy and over years and years he decays into a disgusting beta male...its no wonder she seeks the company of a "better" man.

Where you see a women's "evil" actions as the problem...I see this as the problem:

The women were using their spouses as anchors while they were out scouting and building new relationships. The acceptance of this behavior by their husbands created an inflated, false sense of power in the women.
If guys werent so pathetic nowadays and actually acted like men, this would not be as big a problem as it is.
 

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Jariel said:
I've just finished reading a book called Women's Infidelity by Michelle Langley.

It's based around 100s of interviews with unfaithful women and goes into the reasons why they cheat on their husbands and the cruel, cold and downright evil behaviour they can often resort to. It will make you cynical, but it is very enlightening. It is one of those books many of us more optimistic guys need to read in order to learn the true nature of women and to prepare us for it.

As a matter of fact, it support a lot of what is taught on this forum and is a very good incentive to adopt the player/jerk mentality.

Anyone else read it and have any thoughts on it?

A small quote from the book...

interesting read & insight into how cruel & cunning some woman can be.. typical branch swinger behaviour

to watch a man suffer fills them with such confidence!
 

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TheException said:
If guys werent so pathetic nowadays and actually acted like men, this would not be as big a problem as it is.
If a man is pathetic, then nobody can blame her for losing attraction, leaving him and pursuing another man.

However, if the guy has been good to her, he does not deserve to be lied to, used, humiliated, heartbroken, kicked when he's down, have half his house and belongings taken from him or have his kids used against him.
 

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I have the book, but haven't read it. Just glanced over. Why? What's so special about the book?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Jariel said:
If a man is pathetic, then nobody can blame her for losing attraction, leaving him and pursuing another man.

However, if the guy has been good to her, he does not deserve to be lied to, used, humiliated, heartbroken, kicked when he's down, have half his house and belongings taken from him or have his kids used against him.
I think your frustration stems not from the truth of the biological impulses that women feel but the fact that they often lack a higher level human component to act against these impulses when it comes to men. Think about it - if we men followed all of our biological impulses to a T we would never be faithful to our commitments with women and we would all be in prison for having murdered at least one person that ticked us off. One of the biggest things that bothers me about women is they seem to be less faithful to their commitments probably as a matter of their nature.

This cruelty you speak of is the result of the unchecked evolution of women. It is their most basal nature. The problem is, unlike with males, society positively reinforces women's expression of their basal nature. Women of character are very rare, and not just in this present time. Going all the way back to the Bible, Eve was the very first human to act against what was right. Any student of history will understand that women have long manipulated men for their benefit and left them high and dry whenever it was ultimately toward their advantage. The Victorian era is considered by many non-scholars to be the hallmark of morality but historians refer to it as the golden era of pornography. The basic instincts of people have not changed much.

That being said, there are some virtuous women, but it is easy to forget that on this website. Like in any other environment, bad news and negative case studdies far overshadow the positives (especially when there are few positives). Just because there are a lot of very bad deals in the marketplace of romance does not mean a smart buyer is going to get ripped off. A discriminating DJ will be able to find these women if it is important to him.
 

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Speculator E said:
I have the book, but haven't read it. Just glanced over. Why? What's so special about the book?
It just gives a lot of insight into female nature and the flaws of many long term relationships. It also gives a little insight into the chemical reactions and their addictive properties, which goes some way to explain attraction and loss of attraction.

I think it's a good read for "nice guys" especially as way of snapping them out of this ideal that life is fair and to basically tell us men to man the fvck up and take no sh1t!

Same advice we read here really, but done using real life cases and the perspectives of a man being cheated on and a woman doing the cheating.
 

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ebracer05 said:
I think your frustration stems not from the truth of the biological impulses that women feel but the fact that they often lack a higher level human component to act against these impulses when it comes to men...This cruelty you speak of is the result of the unchecked evolution of women. It is their most basal nature. The problem is, unlike with males, society positively reinforces women's expression of their basal nature... Women of character are very rare, and not just in this present time. Going all the way back to the Bible, Eve was the very first human to act against what was right...That being said, there are some virtuous women, but it is easy to forget that on this website. Like in any other environment, bad news and negative case studdies far overshadow the positives (especially when there are few positives).
Great post and balanced also. In our current culture, we are still inundated from all angles with themes of gynocentric supremacy, that women are objectively better than men, which explains the stridency of the backlash you reference in your last two sentences. People who have been convincingly and facilely lied to for years tend to shout out when the lie becomes apparent, especially if the lie has been used to defraud and results in quanitifiable detriment to the defrauded.
 

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Jariel said:
If a man is pathetic, then nobody can blame her for losing attraction, leaving him and pursuing another man.

However, if the guy has been good to her, he does not deserve to be lied to, used, humiliated, heartbroken, kicked when he's down, have half his house and belongings taken from him or have his kids used against him.
Agreed.

A lot of women are pieces of shi!t.

But there are also decent women out there. Namely virgin females.

Even virgin girls can be emotionally abusive so just gotta keep your guard up.

Don't waste your time with used up women.

Your previous girlfriend was a disaster waiting to happen.

If she was anything near quality she would have done her best to stay with her husband / father of her child.
 

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its funny to read stuff like this here but i go over to another forum and women are hollering about how awful men are. what a mindfvck
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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spang said:
its funny to read stuff like this here but i go over to another forum and women are hollering about how awful men are. what a mindfvck
it's pretty crazy when you start applying the ideas from the DJ Bible and sosuave to your life and realize how easy it is to get girls simply by being the man you've been conditioned to not be.

it all makes sense, but there are far too many men who will never understand it. they'll never stop listening to women.
i can't explain it to my old friends, and they'll just keep calling me misogynistic but i couldn't care less.

i really appreciate sosuave because there is not enough places like this.
 

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SamTheHobit said:
Your previous girlfriend was a disaster waiting to happen.

If she was anything near quality she would have done her best to stay with her husband / father of her child.
I agree with your post mate, except the last part. Her husband cheated on her multiple times and she still tried to work it out for the children's sake, but couldn't get over it.

This was one of the big problems with our relationship. She was still very bitter towards him and her divorce was dragging up a lot of the past...and there I was right in the middle of this emotional tornado!

What the fvck was I thinking?

A tough lesson, but I'm a lot wiser now and will be a lot more selective when choosing a woman in future.
 

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A tough lesson, but I'm a lot wiser now and will be a lot more selective when choosing a woman in future.
Selecting the right women is key. Often we beat ourselves up thinking we could have done something different, a bunch of self defeating statements.

But the fact is more times than not the women is at fault.

I think sometimes its good not to give 100 percent of yourself in the beggining of a relationship. I think this will weed out the women who are looking for the next best thing?
 

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Jariel said:
I agree with your post mate, except the last part. Her husband cheated on her multiple times and she still tried to work it out for the children's sake, but couldn't get over it.

This was one of the big problems with our relationship. She was still very bitter towards him and her divorce was dragging up a lot of the past...and there I was right in the middle of this emotional tornado!

What the fvck was I thinking?

A tough lesson, but I'm a lot wiser now and will be a lot more selective when choosing a woman in future.
she is/was an alpha widow, she still had/has very strong feelings for him. Bitter towards him = she still wanted him between her legs even more so after he has all these women to choose from....you were onto a loser from the off
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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