Women's dating complaints - what planet are they from?

[bigdave17]

I posted pics on dating sites that photofeeler rated me as around a 7 to 7.5/10 (which is about what I expected)
I'm incredibly loyal and 100% looking for a wife and kids
I make 180K and have my own house at age of 29 that's nearly paid for
I'm intelligent and college educated
All my messages have been intelligent non sexual messaged tailored towards their profiles. I'm not even interested in a woman who wants to have sex with me before 3rd date - if she wanted to have sex on first date, I would probably stop talking to her forever.


Yet I've only had a couple women interested in me out of the 40-50 I've messaged. The vast VAST majority of my messages aren't even being read


let's flip this out around. Imagine getting so many women interested in you where a 7.5/10 chick in very good shape making nearly 200K at age of 29 who is extremely loyal and loving is no longer impressive or interesting? We would all be in heaven!


so how do women complain that dating is hard or that they're no good men around? Does a good man nowadays mean 10/10 6'3 white guy that's top 0.00001% of society? How much easier can things possibly be? Any decent looking woman can post a dating profile and get 250385025835025035 guys interested in her. What is it that they want that they're not getting?

 

[longtail]

The only one I see complaining is you.

 

[bigdave17]

The only one I see complaining is you.

women complain constantly about how horrible dating is

 

[bigdave17]

Nah, women have their own crap to deal with in dating terms tbh.

As for being disheartened regarding old, it's like cold approach or most things. Everyone gets a lot of knockbacks. That's why it's important imo to see some value in the process, rather than it being just a means to an end. I think that's very important.

As guys, we have a tendancy to talk war stories. This is essentially just a highlight real. There's a lot of rejections, flakes, and general boring crap that everyone leaves out.

Which is fine, but misleading and sometimes just plain irresponsible. When i went on Tinder, i subsequently forgot this general rule and thought it'd be a complete doss. But it's a time consuming pain, and a poor value trade relative to other methods.

You'll get guys making threads about speaking to a woman and i'm thinking, so what? I did that daily. It's not worthy of note.

I was such an OLD noob that i offered that people could bloody steer these conversations if they wanted. I'd have said whatever - rediculous, lecherous, nice-guy. I wasn't bothered. Wouldn't have mooched, would have posted for a laugh.

Read a thread tonight about a guy who says he's a male 9 or whatever getting knockbacks in cold approach. That's normal. That's why it's best not to do that in a venue that anyone frequents.

Expectations are all out of whack.

tldr? rejection is normal. Hence, it"s important to do the grind with something that gives you various enjoyment, and preferably few comebacks. If you enjoy old, seeing all the profiles and chilling in your living room then do that. But if you aren't finding it any sort of fun, do something else.

Don't think women have it easy. They get periods and sh1t. I wouldn't wish it on an enemy.

Dude, think about this world in a flipside

You go on dating sites and 7.5/10 women who workout 6 days a week with 200K a year income message you and want to date you long term
9/10 men approach you but you turn some of them down because they didn't do everything the perfect way

You would be in heaven and would say dating is the easiest thing on the planet! So what is it that women want that they're not getting?

Having 7.5/10 men who make 200K a year who message you is not enough? They need to be 10/10 men who make 20 million a year?

 

[bigdave17]

Not if i had to worry about the wall, a biological clock, and everything else.

what wall?

Any good looking hispanic, black, asian. italian, middle eastern woman can look gorgeous until their 40s, 50s and 60s nowadays if she works out and takes care of herself. Even most white chicks can look decent until 40-50 if they take care of themselves

It's not like male aging is perfect. I'm 29 and I already have a thinning spot in the crown of my hair. Women have perfect hair usually until they're a 100

Biological clock? Any decent woman has a billion men interested in her. If you can't find a quality mate by 35 or so, you're retarded

 

[bigdave17]

Whether the person their having sex with respects them, whether they feel safe with a guy, whether the guy is competent, and so on.

Did you read the OP?

I'm extremely competent in all areas and my success rate is horrible on online dating because all the women want a 10/10 guy and not a 7.5/10

and the wall is just male delusion nonsense. Women and Men age in their own ways - neither is perfect by any means. Men have a little better skin genetics but we have atrocious hair genetics. Take out light skin white people and I would argue women age better than men do. In middle eastern and Indians, I would argue the women age significantly better because they keep all their hair

 

[zekko]

I just told you that i've personally known very attractive women in their 30's who are more than aware of the dynamic. There's a reason they marry at 33 i think it is on average.

Average age of first marriage for a woman in the US is 27.1, but that number is on the rise.

And regarding "the wall", it isn't all about looks. The older a woman gets, her odds of having a normal, healthy baby decrease. Not to mention having a relatively complication free pregnancy.