Women will punish you for not understanding them (on a deeper level)

[Gamisch]

It's crazy how it works.

Most of us active members are well aware if the contradictory nature of the game; we know that some seemingly " useful " tactics don't work. Think about begging and pleading, leading with money, being too sensitive , being too respectful ect.

On the other hand we do get more new members and perhaps lurkers. So it's important to keep this one in mind, as it might inspire you to keep learning!!

Women WILL punish you if you don't understand them. I'm talking sexually, spiritually, and ofcourse emotionally . Especially the last one can be tricky. A woman who does like you can be annoying, but much worse is a woman who doesn't like( arguably).

A woman might " punish " a man when dealing with him by simply taking away the option of intimacy (both physically and mentally). Even or maybe especially in long term relationships. She might " tease her existence " to you while she never actually gives you what YOU want. This tease will feel like a punishment sooner or later.

She might punish you for believing you could get her to sleep with you without strings attached. She might destroy your reputation and name simply because you hard nexted her over time. Too many examples come to mind. Maybe the most..relatable one? She might cheat on you due to your lack of understanding about her!! Yes , a harsh but real " punishment " ,perhaps for example simply because you didn't understood it was time to dump her.

That's why you should keep trying to understand women. Keep studying so you become familiar with certain traits. And no, it's never easy as each woman might offer a brand new challenge..

 

[plumber]

It's crazy how it works.

Most of us active members are well aware if the contradictory nature of the game; we know that some seemingly " useful " tactics don't work. Think about begging and pleading, leading with money, being too sensitive , being too respectful ect.

On the other hand we do get more new members and perhaps lurkers. So it's important to keep this one in mind, as it might inspire you to keep learning!!

Women WILL punish you if you don't understand them. I'm talking sexually, spiritually, and ofcourse emotionally . Especially the last one can be tricky. A woman who does like you can be annoying, but much worse is a woman who doesn't like( arguably).

A woman might " punish " a man when dealing with him by simply taking away the option of intimacy (both physically and mentally). Even or maybe especially in long term relationships. She might " tease her existence " to you while she never actually gives you what YOU want. This tease will feel like a punishment sooner or later.

She might punish you for believing you could get her to sleep with you without strings attached. She might destroy your reputation and name simply because you hard nexted her over time. Too many examples come to mind. Maybe the most..relatable one? She might cheat on you due to your lack of understanding about her!! Yes , a harsh but real " punishment " ,perhaps for example simply because you didn't understood it was time to dump her.

That's why you should keep trying to understand women. Keep studying so you become familiar with certain traits. And no, it's never easy as each woman might offer a brand new challenge..

rule one. know thyself.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Women WILL punish you if you don't understand them. I'm talking sexually, spiritually, and ofcourse emotionally

Them, and everyone else. Ex:

Employees(especially male employees)who fail to grasp their corporation's morays and objectives end up being real life equivalents of Milton Wandams

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They won't even dignify you with a firing

 

[Clockwerk50]

Ok.

For the sake of argument, what would you suggest someone who doesn’t understand women sexually, emotionally, or spiritually should do to actually learn? And how does a man who does understand them in those areas typically behave?

 

[Bigpapa]

I think that people overthink the whole thing

women these days mainly want d1ck but the guy to deliver it in a savy way, anything else is secondary

so I would say that guy have to understand that firstly they have to be sexual

the rest of things that most men want from women can only come from their male friends ( at least most of them )

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

Chicks are the first to fall in love. First to want to be exclusive. And first to want to check out.

Hallowed is the player who gets into something and ends it. The player m.o. is to avoid the tie down in the first place, because breaking up a relationship is too mentally and emotionally taxing.

 

[Gamisch]

Ok.

For the sake of argument, what would you suggest someone who doesn’t understand women sexually, emotionally, or spiritually should do to actually learn? And how does a man who does understand them in those areas typically behave?

Great question.

Well, sosauve us a great source. I mean, there's enough material to lurk for I geuss years. Plenty of scenarios and situations that show the diversity of the game. Female friends COULD be a way to be closer to the fire, especially when you've made it clear you not trying to hit. Some men are just lucky to have sisters, nieces and even aunt and mothers that teach then tons of shyte.

Ofcourse the most important part is to actually be around women. For example: when you lived with one or two women you'll learn so much more than when you're only dating while havjng that pipedreamn . The irony is that perhaps after such adventures you'll end up " just dating" because that special edge disappeared for good..

A man who does understand them in those areas will be able to : recognize, adjust, manipulate, digg, create and eventually establish and escalate accordingly. Hence why there's a 20/80 rule at play. Isn't it crazy how some men are able to sleep with hundreds of women while the next dude has to fly to a 3rd world shytehole to get a demob like women who plays him?

 

[Gamisch]

Chicks are the first to fall in love. First to want to be exclusive. And first to want to check out.

Hallowed is the player who gets into something and ends it. The player m.o. is to avoid the tie down in the first place, because breaking up a relationship is too mentally and emotionally taxing.

Agree. Yet another form of punishment. Once she knows you won't be the one she can tie down bit yet you don't dump her she'll release he'll upon you..

A player can definitely get punishment for not cutting the cord. Our ego , and / or our need to have backups sometimes leads us into this specific situation ..

 

[Gamisch]

I think that people overthink the whole thing

women these days mainly want d1ck but the guy to deliver it in a savy way, anything else is secondary

so I would say that guy have to understand that firstly they have to be sexual

the rest of things that most men want from women can only come from their male friends ( at least most of them )

Women want d1ck but don't underestimate the other things surrounding that d1ck. Wine ,dine , quality time, hugs ,kisses, attention ect.

If you feck a woman properly a whole new cans of worms will open up...

It might be " overthinking " but imo that's necessary. You gotta be ahead of whatever game is presenting itself..

 

[Gamisch]

rule one. know thyself.

There's more to it tho...you can know thy self in and out, yet everything might change when you add another being to the equation, especially a woman...so it's extremely important to understand them.

It will save you TONS of headaches.

 

[tksniper]

It's crazy how it works.

Most of us active members are well aware if the contradictory nature of the game; we know that some seemingly " useful " tactics don't work. Think about begging and pleading, leading with money, being too sensitive , being too respectful ect.

On the other hand we do get more new members and perhaps lurkers. So it's important to keep this one in mind, as it might inspire you to keep learning!!

Women WILL punish you if you don't understand them. I'm talking sexually, spiritually, and ofcourse emotionally . Especially the last one can be tricky. A woman who does like you can be annoying, but much worse is a woman who doesn't like( arguably).

A woman might " punish " a man when dealing with him by simply taking away the option of intimacy (both physically and mentally). Even or maybe especially in long term relationships. She might " tease her existence " to you while she never actually gives you what YOU want. This tease will feel like a punishment sooner or later.

She might punish you for believing you could get her to sleep with you without strings attached. She might destroy your reputation and name simply because you hard nexted her over time. Too many examples come to mind. Maybe the most..relatable one? She might cheat on you due to your lack of understanding about her!! Yes , a harsh but real " punishment " ,perhaps for example simply because you didn't understood it was time to dump her.

That's why you should keep trying to understand women. Keep studying so you become familiar with certain traits. And no, it's never easy as each woman might offer a brand new challenge..

I’ve had allot of women try to frame me as not being able to understand them. But I also understand they are masters at frame games. So I would just ignore their frames. I’ve realized that with enough abundance, you can ignore everyone’s frames bro.

Now of course the million dollar question is how do you create abundance? That has always been the million dollar question. The million dollar question never had anything to do with women’s fickle ways.

 

[Gamisch]

I’ve had allot of women try to frame me as not being able to understand them. But I also understand they are masters at frame games. So I would just ignore their frames. I’ve realized that with enough abundance, you can ignore everyone’s frames bro.

Now of course the million dollar question is how do you create abundance? That has always been the million dollar question. The million dollar question never had anything to do with women’s fickle ways.

It all goes hand in hand.

Understanding women can mean you are able to maintain the ltr with somewhat of tranquility, but it can also mean you have or create abundance ( at will).

Having abundance by the way isn't always a positive thing, because women will know you have that abundance..what means they're easily replaced AND you're the type of men who deals with seduction from other women much more.

So yes, a woman's only power over you might indeed become her reframing of you and your...morals? She wil detest your willingness to walk away . When she learns you cannot be budged ,she'll go nuts.

Once a woman knows you are fully aware that you are miles above her the same dynamic applies: she will do everything within her power to "punish" you because it's all she has left..

 

[tksniper]

It all goes hand in hand.

Understanding women can mean you are able to maintain the ltr with somewhat of tranquility, but it can also mean you have or create abundance ( at will).

Having abundance by the way isn't always a positive thing, because women will know you have that abundance..what means they're easily replaced AND you're the type of men who deals with seduction from other women much more.

So yes, a woman's only power over you might indeed become her reframing of you and your...morals? She wil detest your willingness to walk away . When she learns you cannot be budged ,she'll go nuts.

Once a woman knows you are fully aware that you are miles above her the same dynamic applies: she will do everything within her power to "punish" you because it's all she has left..

Sounds like you are describing a needy and neurotic woman. Although I can admit probably 90% of females are needy and neurotic these days, I have met a few that aren’t.

I’ve also read in the past that you tend to meet women at the workplace. In my experience, women from work tend to be the most manipulative. Don’t ask me why, lol. From being a kid working at TGI Fridays to being an adult working at Fortune 500 companies, women from work have given me the absolute hardest times. Lol.

I’ve been punished for showing interest, punished for not showing interest, punished for having too much abundance, not being able to read their signals, etc. The list goes on.

In fact, dealing with women at the work place was how I discovered that women are the real seducers. They will throw the whole damn game at you just to get you to react. If you are often a “target” at the workplace, you’ll get calibrated to women’s true nature a lot faster than someone who spends all his time hitting on women in bars dealing with b1tch shields all the time. You’ll realize that most women are really needy and their entire personalities are about dating and romance 24/7, sprinkled in with a little bit of yoga, Netflix, and Starbucks.

 

[Gamisch]

Sounds like you are describing a needy and neurotic woman. Although I can admit probably 90% of females are needy and neurotic these days, I have met a few that aren’t.

I’ve also read in the past that you tend to meet women at the workplace. In my experience, women from work tend to be the most manipulative. Don’t ask me why, lol. From being a kid working at TGI Fridays to being an adult working at Fortune 500 companies, women from work have given me the absolute hardest times. Lol.

I’ve been punished for showing interest, punished for not showing interest, punished for having too much abundance, not being able to read their signals, etc. The list goes on.

In fact, dealing with women at the work place was how I discovered that women are the real seducers. They will throw the whole damn game at you just to get you to react. If you are often a “target” at the workplace, you’ll get calibrated to women’s true nature a lot faster than someone who spends all his time hitting on women in bars dealing with b1tch shields all the time. You’ll realize that most women are really needy and their entire personalities are about dating and romance 24/7, sprinkled in with a little bit of yoga, Netflix, and Starbucks.

Just to clarify: I work at and on people's houses. So it happens quite regularly that women tend to ..like me and they're NOT subtle about it lol.

Other than that I meet women everywhere I go. That's why I personally don't do cold approach. I can't even imagine having time to constantly deal with mulitiple women, hence the title of thread because especially when your game is tight women will become devils trying to make your life hard. A player who deals with let's say 5 women will be constantly putting out fires for at least three of them...

There's a power to roaming this earth being confident about yourself while simultaneously being fully aware of female nature. This would be my number one advice to men who struggle with the basic level of firstly connecting to women. Because you can be around women, date then ect and yet lack that " x factor ". Been there too so I know what it's like

 

[Vanderdonck]

It all goes hand in hand.

Understanding women can mean you are able to maintain the ltr with somewhat of tranquility, but it can also mean you have or create abundance ( at will).

Having abundance by the way isn't always a positive thing, because women will know you have that abundance..what means they're easily replaced AND you're the type of men who deals with seduction from other women much more.

So yes, a woman's only power over you might indeed become her reframing of you and your...morals? She wil detest your willingness to walk away . When she learns you cannot be budged ,she'll go nuts.

Once a woman knows you are fully aware that you are miles above her the same dynamic applies: she will do everything within her power to "punish" you because it's all she has left..

A lot of this is up to the man but a lot of it depends on the type of woman. The ones who push back or cling too much or resent your abundance can be destructive no matter how masculine a frame you have. This is where understanding YOURSELF and what you want is just as important as understanding them.

I've been with both the hyper-"independent" women and the hyper-needy. Neither were tenable for me. RN I'm lucky to be with a woman who's both confident in herself and respects my confidence in myself, including my ability to attract other women.

IOW if she's punishing you for being your true self then she is the one with the problem.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

They will allways try to punish you. It doesnt mather if you comply or if you dont comply.

They will put you under sustained shyttests to gain dominance and when they have dominance, the real pain begins and they will despise you for being weak.

The most important thing to understand about any specific woman is how to stay the best man she thinks she can get.
Find out what pushes her buttons (looks, protection, dominance, indifference, social status, lifestyle, dread game etc.) and become a drummer.

Once you are at that point you will get away with almost everything.

Of course, the hotter she is, the more difficult it is to pull off. Thats why i, at least for LTRs, strongly recommend to settle down with a lvl or two and dont go for the 8s or 9s.

Now of course the million dollar question is how do you create abundance?

Thats easy, stop NEEDING/being needy and you have created abundance.

 

[Divorced w 3]

This is a little black and white. I do agree there are certain social dynamics that need to be observed in early stage game, in other words, relationships always have the foundation of push-pull that must never be forgotten. You can't have it all push though. That relationship will cease in time if the relationship continues by being entirely self centered.

A man should never lose his sense of self respect and demand it, nor his strive for greatness, as general disposition towards taking intelligent risk (confidence, excitement, big ideas, successful thought processes), are character traits.

When in a developed partnership, however, you have to see it as that, and a good partnership should allow for a man to settle into certain roles, that provide for longer term growth, support and mutual needs.

In other words, don't ever be a pushover, but there's the pull side of push-pull that needs to be addressed as well.

 

[tksniper]

They will allways try to punish you. It doesnt mather if you comply or if you dont comply.

They will put you under sustained shyttests to gain dominance and when they have dominance, the real pain begins and they will despise you for being weak.

The most important thing to understand about any specific woman is how to stay the best man she thinks she can get.
Find out what pushes her buttons (looks, protection, dominance, indifference, social status, lifestyle, dread game etc.) and become a drummer.

Once you are at that point you will get away with almost everything.

Of course, the hotter she is, the more difficult it is to pull off. Thats why i, at least for LTRs, strongly recommend to settle down with a lvl or two and dont go for the 8s or 9s.





Thats easy, stop NEEDING/being needy and you have created abundance.

But then this presents the question: How do you stop needing women? Some of us are able to pull this off. But for the majority of men in sosuave, this is another question down the rabbit hole.

 

[Barrister]

You can understand them perfectly and they’ll punish you for that too because you’re being too logical. Most women don’t even understand themselves so it’d be hard for them to punish you for it. It’s all in how you make them feel - nothing more. Make them feel tingly they’re happy; make them feel any other way and you’ll get “punished,” sometimes not in subtle ways.

 

[Vanderdonck]

But then this presents the question: How do you stop needing women? Some of us are able to pull this off. But for the majority of men in sosuave, this is another question down the rabbit hole.

It is quite easy really. Recognize that they are everywhere. Women are like buses, a new one comes along every few minutes. Nothing is worth my self respect and I'd rather be alone working on my hobbies and stacking $ than getting mistreated by some broad.