"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Women Who Offer Nothing To My Life

Sargeholic

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I came to this conclusion recently. Most of the women I have been trying to get and have been getting don't offer that much to my life.

I have more money (which they often think I should spend on them), I am better educated, I have a nicer place, a higher class of friends, I am often better looking (though a female 5 still can outpull a male 8 or 9). Then, they expect me to give them the princess treatment and they never call me, never plan anything, never pay (I am expected to do all the work). This seems to be a recent development, as throughout the college years it was always 50/50 or skewed in my favor in most relationships. I do always keep dates cheap and never get caught doing anything very AFC.

My reward for doing everything? Banal, uninspired sex much of the time. Oh, and "the joy of my company" which one girl actually had the nerve to say to me once when I called her on this stuff. I left immediately. The best sex I have had anyway has been with women who didn't do this crap. Honestly, even for good sex, the investment is starting to outweigh the return. I can get myself off, and it doesn't cost a thing and requires very little of my valuable time.

I don't consider myself AFC, because I don't deal with this garbage much past the first date or two. However, if I stop chasing them, they never keep chasing me, like the DJ Bible or other resources say. If I do the work, they stay eagerly, if I do nothing, they leave.

Its not because I am paying for a bunch of stuff, because I often maybe spend $50 on them for three dates combined or so. Mostly, if I "give them the gift of missing me" they disappear. If I chase, they are gung ho about being with me.

I need to find something at least close to 50/50, because if I can't, it honestly is not worth it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ethnomethodologist

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Originally posted by Sargeholic
"the joy of my company"
:crackup: HAHAHA!!!

I use that ALL the time! Probably won't anymore though, but that is one of my keepsakes!

I love using it, it's my C+F way of telling a girl why I am even talking to her. I think your problem is you can't take criticism. Everybody is unique, everybody can offer you something.

It depends on what you are looking for, and what you accept though. To gain what you accept, you must conform to your mindset, you don't demand without ever being in control. You don't submit if you want to dominate.

You are fighting two different worlds saying you want 50/50. The thing is, if you don't give your 50 your not going to get what you want. Your expectations may be set too high, my advice, set realistic expectations.
 

reyalp

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Man, you've been getting some seriously cold lays, I don't know what's up with that.

Probably one of the best lays I've ever had was a 31yr old MILF, she used to be a stripper. she was an animal in the bedroom.

Second to that was a 25yo girl with an MIS degree. She was very smart and a freak in the bedroom.

So maybe you should work on identifying the women who might be a more wild lay?
 

Sargeholic

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Makes sense, I am a 25 year old guy with a MIS degree...we are wild lays :)

Nah, just been running cold lately. My two best lays ever have both been older postgraduate educated women who didn't put me through a bunch of crap. The best sex I have ever had in my life was with a girl who is the last person you would expect, a quiet, refined, artsy girl who goes to museums, reads The Economist, and dresses very plainly. An absolute freak, who unfortunately moved away.

Honestly, it has been a struggle to find women who even want to interact during sex...zero foreplay, very little touching even...they like to make out or have sex, but that is it. Most women do not know what they are doing.

I need to find someone who can add more to my life than just sex, without taking bucket loads of effort and resources away in exchange.
 

reyalp

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Befriend a fat, interesting chick then.

Meanwhile, game all the wild lays that you can. :D
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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