"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Women who come back after you lost weight

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Any guys here experience this?

For example, you got rejected by multiple females while you were heavy, but now they're coming out of the wood work after seeing you became thin.

How did you handle it? Did you give in and give them a chance or did you reject them?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Chicks hate, hate, hate fat guys!!!

Get your fat down boys (lift too)! You'll have a better body image, better sexual function, higher testosterone levels, more confidence...you will carry yourself better and vis a vis, the poon will follow.
 

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Another fun aspect of this is when you get thin/improve/DJ like, and they plump up and think they actually have a shot at you.
 

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Oh yeah. I used to be over weight then got skinny and girls who made fun of me were begging me to hang out. Then I regained weight and now I'm cut and into lifting like its my second life. My oneitis girl saw me today and her draw dropped. She needed a mop for all the drool.
 

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I dropped 70 pounds and all my old exes and girls I talked to came back, and they was nicer too,lol.

big nuts not lying either, losing weight raises your testosterone levels very highly.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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OK I'm gonna make this real simple:


What bothers a girl is not the extra pounds on you. What bothers her is what those extra pounds convey.


What it basically conveys is:

He's fat. But why ?He probably lacks the willpower and motivation to join the gym and lose the extras.A man with no willpower ? He must be weak.He doesn't lead his life , he's led by it.He's not in control.



Obviously this isn't what she thinks on a conscious level , it's simply what you convey on a subconscious level of communication.Especially if you have that defeated look on your face. It doesn't mean that that's who you are , but it is who you seem to be. Much like if you wear rags. That does not 100% mean you're a hobo , but you sure look like one.

If you lose that weight , you prove that you infact have those qualities. That's the main source of attraction. The more slim & fit body ? That's just the extra bonus you get.


So yeah. Go for it man. Give her a second chance. Why wouldn't you ?
 

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Zion said:
If you lose that weight , you prove that you infact have those qualities. That's the main source of attraction. The more slim & fit body ? That's just the extra bonus you get.


So yeah. Go for it man. Give her a second chance. Why wouldn't you ?
Men do not lose weight to *prove* things to women...that would make them trained seals or puppies who bark on command.

The reason you don't give her a second chance is that as a man who has accomplished weight loss he is free to find new poon unencumbered by past judgements..thus giving the man the upper hand...

if you go back to a chick who wants you now when she formerly rejected you..she has the upper hand...you work for her
 

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Zion said:
OK I'm gonna make this real simple:


What bothers a girl is not the extra pounds on you. What bothers her is what those extra pounds convey.
Wrong. Fat people are ugly. This applies to both men and women. A woman does not want to date a fat guy for the same reason we don't want to date fat chicks. It's as simple as that.
 

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You don't have to be insanely ripped....your shoulder to waist ratio should be the letter "V", not the letter "O".

The V conveys security, the O conveys you eat all the food while she starves. :)

Increase shoulder width by training your shoulders, trim the fat and the optics immediately improve.

Train everything...but you get the idea, there is an evolutionary advantage to fit men.....and as other have stated....do it for yourself, you will ooze confidence and the chick thing, though secondary, will follow naturally.
 

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I dont see whats wrong with that, they like a good looking body as much as we do, if you meet a former fattie from your high school and have the chance to bang her, wouldnt you?

Would she have the right to complain just because your d1ck didnt get hard near her soft ass?

B1tches have many fault but not in this case, it would be different if a girl ignores you only to revaluat you after she gets old and you get rich, yeah in this case the b1tch-o-meter is on the red zone.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Burroughs said:
Men do not lose weight to *prove* things to women...[/B]
I never said that.


You dont do it to prove it to women.You do it for whatever reason ,but by accomplishing it you prove it to everyone around you,inevitably. Which commands respect. Which is attractive.


And you're not going back to her,because OP stated that she is coming to you now. That's the whole starting point of this topic.If anyone has the power,that's you.


Also , seriously ? Losing weight is gonna magically get you poosay ? Really ? sure,it helps. A lot even. But it by no means 'sets you free'.


Bokanovsky said:
Wrong. Fat people are ugly. This applies to both men and women. A woman does not want to date a fat guy for the same reason we don't want to date fat chicks. It's as simple as that.
As a guy will probably never date a fat slob , chicks do not put so much value on looks. It's not attractive to be fat as fvck , obviously, but are we seriously going back to "Do looks matter" ?

You can be a fat guy & pull chicks. You can NOT be a fat chick and pull guys. Simple as that.


Anyway,I agree that fat people are ugly and I'm by no means advocating that it's ok to be fat. Quite the opposite ,in fact. But to say that women don't date fat guys for the same reason we don't date fat chicks is way waaay too exaggerated.
 

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If you want to lose weight, do it for yourself. Girls do prefer skinny/ripped guys, but its not worth doing it just to attract more HBs. I'd rather be 6'3 and 230 lbs than 6'3 and 190 lbs, even if girls prefer the latter. I feel a lot better about myself when I have some more volume on my body. :yes:
 

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ok my own experience

200lbs 30% bodyfat ---got rejected a lot
190lbs ----- still rejection
170lbs ---- now girls start to accept my existence

170 lbs 16% bf ....fat girls hit on me, Ugly orcs ask me out

175lbs 16%bf ....fat girls ask me out indirectly,ugly orcs are orbiting, normal girls start to chat me up

183 lbs 15% bf ...older women (25-35) start giving compliments, average *****es check my ass out, fat orcs and goblins are intimidated...cute/pretty girls start noticing me

that's as far as i got....there were a few girls who rejected me in the past but i don't really give a fvck about them so idk what they think of me, but i know they are getting wet

i still got ways to go till i can be "ripped"
 

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JohnChops said:
Oh yeah. I used to be over weight then got skinny and girls who made fun of me were begging me to hang out. Then I regained weight and now I'm cut and into lifting like its my second life. My oneitis girl saw me today and her draw dropped. She needed a mop for all the drool.
nice! so good to hear man..

now how do you do this ****?
 

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Zion said:
As a guy will probably never date a fat slob , chicks do not put so much value on looks.
Good looking ones do. Attractive people like to date other attractive people. This is true of both sexes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Of course you should take her back. She was the one who inspired you. You will have achieved your goal, and as long as you stay in shape, she won't leave as easily next time.

You should thank her for being the catalyst that led to your improvement. By losing the weight, you proved she was right to reject you - she knew you weren't living up to your potential.
 

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Flip it around.

A girl that started off chubby, lost weight, improved everything about herself, and turned into a stunningly beautiful woman. Now you want her. Should she turn you away just because you had rejected her earlier?

I can't blame them, I'm not gonna sleep with a fat girl. I can understand not wanting to be with a guy that was overweight. Now that you've shown the motivation and drive, and have lost it, it's attractive, thus they've changed their opinions. Why not go for them? Sure, you can claim they are entirely superficial, but really, I can't blame them at all.
 

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I've had a HB7 who appeared to reject me at first or at least didn't appear too interested when I went on a date with her.

A year later I got a message from her that she's happy to meet me next time I'm here (she lives in a different city), coincidentally (or not) around the time my dad became a CEO. Her eyes must have lit up with money signs.

I promptly told her to f*** off.
 

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I still think if the old one leaves you behind but now you are better she come why you would want her back? you can get better now so don't see a reason to get the older one back, if you can **** her without feeling anything do it, if not let her see what she missed and move on
 

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SoSuave666 said:
It's really hard for all us guys who had enough self respect in the first place to not be a fat piece of sh1t. Seriously, the premise of this thread, and more importantly, OP's natural instinct is disturbing. You should maintain proper weight and health for your own sake...not to regain the attraction of a woman. Especially one who rejected you. Have some class.
I agree with this mentality and a great post. Rejection is one thing, if the girl rejects your approach but when they reject you because you repulse them, i don't give them a second chance. I wouldn't lower myself to fall for someone like that. They didn't appreciate me before but now that i got myself together, they do just shows me where they would be if sh1t hit the fan and i needed sometime to get myself together.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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