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Women that call guys they're not into "creepy"

Trunks

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As it happens, within the last 6 months, three different women have been creeped out by me being too direct with them. This had never happened before (that I was aware of). But even if it's too few women to generalize, I noticed the one thing they all had in common is that:
- two were simply below my normal standards - 5-6s- times of war, one of these i wasn't even interested in, btu she thought so.
- the other was easily HB9, however, she was extremely insecure.

And that last bit is really what two uggies and the hottie had in common: insecurity and a need for attention.

So the takeaway from this, if a girl tells other people you're creepy, it may some lack of social calibration on your part, but even more so, her own need to make herself look important ... so keep sarging.:rockon:
 

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I agree. Looks and/or how much a chick is into you will dictate how "creepy" a man's advances are.
 

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Agree with both.

It's a power trip of sorts to make her feel superior as Trump alludes to.

But it's directed at guys she isn't attracted to as Trump and Greasy Pig point out.

I've seen guys do some really aggressive stuff in the club and get away with it. One guy approached an HB8 redhead and started kissing her leg and going up higher and higher. He was kissing his way up her body until he got to her mouth. Then he started making out with her. Then he number closed her and left. He was a good looking guy. She did NOT consider any of it creepy. I'm sure you could wring out her panties afterwards lol.

On the other hand, I seen and heard other guys get rejected and called creepy without even making ANY physical contact at all.

We know what the common denominator is lol.
 

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The better looking you are, the more you can get away with in a club. That's the truth.
Not wanting to blow my own trumpet, but I'm pretty good looking and I can't believe some of the shyt I've said and done to chicks out on the town and got away with it. If they're into you, they'll laugh pretty much anything off.
No matter how crude, rude, suggestive, arrogant or filthy.
 

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yup modern women have so many men constantly approaching the so they have raised there standards to only like the top 10% of men so lower men are considered an annoyance now wand females will cause you of harassing them or being creepy simply cause they don't like your looks...

look are 90% of the equation these days even thug most men like too deny the fact... when women don't like your looks they make you go through a lot more bs with them.. the more they like thou looks the easier and faster they will give you sex fact
 

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I'll go as far as saying that they'll use the word ''creepy'' for anything they don't like.

"Can you believe he just picked up the phone and called me to ask me out??? Eww, how creepy!"

Meanwhile, if she into you, you can facebang her mom on the living room couch while the whole family watched Dancing With The Stars and she'll think it's cute.

Bıtches be outta control.
 

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Good stuff already in this thread. I'll just add a few things.

Trunks said:
- two were simply below my normal standards - 5-6s- times of war, one of these i wasn't even interested in, btu she thought so.
^Thought process of these women: You're interested in us?? There must be something wrong with you.

"I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE ME AS A MEMBER". - Groucho Marx

I've been there where I've been turned down by average women where I thought I was just throwing em a bone (pun intended). I was thinking, alright, let's get this over with. I don't know if I came off as creepy, but I realized that they're still women, and they still have women brains.

Trunks said:
So the takeaway from this, if a girl tells other people you're creepy, it may some lack of social calibration on your part, but even more so, her own need to make herself look important ... so keep sarging.:rockon:
It'a all a song and dance. When I was younger, I'm sure I came across as creepy countless times. I was like a dog in heat. Now, either through simple maturity, or more of an understanding of how it all works, I've learned to never show em my cards. And if anything, the way to go is to act dis-interested.
 

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Who looks good is all about perception......So all this good looking crap goes out the window for the most part. I seen dudes I thought would be unattractive to women get away with stuff
 

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PeasantPlayer said:
Who looks good is all about perception......So all this good looking crap goes out the window for the most part. I seen dudes I thought would be unattractive to women get away with stuff
Sometimes the guy is aesthetically good looking, and it is obvious to women and even other men. Other times, it truly is in the eye of the beholder, and we see women finding some guy attractive that we might think is hideous. So yes, it's the chick's perception, but it still matters.
 

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Your delivery is more important than what you actually say. Women take cues from their environment, similar to dogs. If you're afraid, the dog is afraid. It takes its cues from you. The same with the woman: if you're nervous (or appear to be) when you say something, then she's nervous, and that makes what you say seem creepy. Men take cues from the environment too, but women and dogs are more in-tune than we are; men tend to be more inwardly-focused. The lesson is that whatever you're saying you have to say it in a calm, or lighthearted way. If you're nervous, she'll focus on that. If you're angry, she'll focus on that. If you're calm, she'll focus on that instead.
 

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