"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Women that are body shy

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Bodyshy, insecurity, self conscience or whatever. The amount of women who want to keep their clothes on during sex is getting ridiculous. Recently a woman I had slept with wanted to keep her swim wear on. WTF? I know I'm not the only guy who's expereinced this, and it's getting tiring trying to convince some women - too many, the majority that I've slept with even - to get naked before sex. Even if I get pass that stage, sometimes, they'll still be uncomfortable - or straight petrified - of walking around naked (unless I literally drag them out the bed, in a playful manner, but even then they'll scramble for a quilt or something)
I've had this with all types of women: slim bodies, or with a bit of weight on them.

Any thoughts on this? Please share your experiences or remedies.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Have never experienced that.. Clothes on during sex? Gtfo.
 

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Really? Not even a bra or vest or something? Anyway I kid you not. A few of my friends have had the same experience. It's ridiculous
 

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One girl i used to work with told me she never takes her shirt off during sex which i thought was odd because she had a great rack.. But yea i guess its a body image thing? Not really sure..
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I thought there would be more shared experiences. It's a frequent occurrence for me and a few others that I know, and I haven't asked a lot of people about this as I always thought it was the typical thing. Obviously not.
 

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Run Forrest, run?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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It has happened to me before. But it was always just a specific area... and it was usually the upper half. Obviously, it didn't happen with every girl...

And the one it happened with the most was very self-conscious about her breasts. She thought they sagged (Which they didn't). They weren't perfect... and even though I like to have them keep on a dress or a sexy bra or a nightgown from time to time, at some point you just want to see EVERYTHING.

The "Run Forest Run" is probably attributed to the fact that if women continually do this, it underlines self-esteem issues that will probably continue within the relationship. If she isn't secure about how she feels externally, what else is brewing inside that mind about her self-esteem internally?

Do they still have a problem with it even if you turn the lights off?
 

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Yeah that makes sense. A fvck buddy of mine I saw for a while was body shy and she used to burst into tears over a lot of things, so yeah you bet I ran.

Yea they're more comfortable with the lights off, and it's usually only a body part they tend to hide but still, the older I get the more fed up I get with it. And of course I've reached the point where I won't even fvck em unless they strip bare. This attitude's childish. I'm guessing media images of the 'perfect women' might be the cause of this but c'mon, some women need to sort it.

Still surprised with the lack of familiarity people have with the situation, I would say 1 in 2, or 1 in 3 of the women I sleep with are reluctant to get entirely naked (they might want to leave a bra on or something), unless I push them to.
 

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I dated a girl recently who would get naked during sex but as soon as we were finished she'd start getting dressed again (then again I usually put my boxers back on afterwards; just feels weird not to wear them). And she always wanted to have the lights off. I don't get it -- she has a great body -- but maybe she used to be fat and she still has the mindset of a fat girl. Speaking of which, my ex never takes her top off in front of people because she's insecure about her belly.
 

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Make her wet, kiss her nick, flip her over, go down to her titties, kiss a bit above and go back to her mouth to tease her, make her so wet that she can't do something but undress, her pvssy will crave for the D and she will put her panties off
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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TheGambino said:
Make her wet, kiss her nick, flip her over, go down to her titties, kiss a bit above and go back to her mouth to tease her, make her so wet that she can't do something but undress, her pvssy will crave for the D and she will put her panties off
I did exactly that with the woman who wanted to keep her swimwear on. It works with getting the girls horny, but it doesn't solve the issue of them fully undressing.

I guess it just is what it is.
 

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Back when I was 31, I was seeing a 21 yo girl, she would only get naked if it was completely dark in the room, she would even blow out the candles in the room, other than that no problems.
 

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Pedestale insecure girls all the time, kicks her self esteem, she will feel good emotions when shes around you coz she loves to hear that shes beautiful. Only do it with low to average girls who complain a lot about their looks
 

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I have a tiny sample size but I've never experienced this. These chicks had bodies that were probably far more imperfect that the chicks you're describing yet still had no problem walking around completely naked with the lights on. I certainly wouldn't stick around with the women you're describing for long. High self esteem is high on my list of qualities in a woman.
 

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Had an experience with a girl like this. I just kept telling her she was the most beautiful girl ever or some sh1t and that I wanted to see all of her, and she let me see her naked the second time. First time she kept her sweater on, lol. Girl was a 6.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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