Women stuck on "dinner and a movie"

[Bluntmaster]

Smart move, BluntM...In a way you are rewarding her attraction to you and not wasting your $$ on a low IL woman..
UNfortunately, most guys will do the opposite and splash the cash in a pathetic attempt to 'entice' her after she has shown only little interest in going out with him.

Most of the girls I end up banging from online give out vibes before the date that they want to f/ck. These are the one's I pay for. Those are the only one's I should even meet. The rest are a waste of time it seems.

 

[backbreaker]

I always suggest we go out for drinks at the same place, a wine bar near where I live. The people who run the place know that I show up with a new girl every so often and they know not to make comments about that.

--> If the chick doesn't want to do what you want to do, then forget her, like, immediately. <--

For example I was chatting with a new girl just a few days ago, I set her up with some talk about the area, then I did my standard "Do you like wine?" 9 times out of 10 they'll say yes, 1 time out of 10 they'll say they like beer. Beer chicks I take to another place. She said Yes just like all the others.

Then I say, "Got any free time coming up?" She says she's off Thursday or Friday. I say let's do it Thursday (never a Fri/Sat first date). She says fine.

So then I say, "there's this neat little wine bar near me, it's a block from the ocean." Never has a woman had a problem with this, but this chick goes, "If you keep chatting with me tonight, then maybe I'll be interested in coming out your way." Well I wasn't going to sit there chatting with the chick all night, and I certainly wasn't going to take a "maybe," so I was like "Well I have stuff to do, sorry can't chat more tonight." She was like, "Ok" then I ejected and deleted her. Done.

Happens all the time, chicks trying to call the shots, best just to get rid of them asap because the way a relationship starts out will be the way it continues.

um. yeah and no.

this is GREAT advise, but at the same time, we have to not be robots. lol, this is not an equation to figure out if women like you or not.

AS most know I"m a former addict. I spent 3 years in AA and I know, quite alot, pretty hot women who won't go 5 miles near a bar and if you have a problem with it, tough cookies.

it does not take a rocket scientist to see that this woman might not have low IL lol, she just might want to avoid a relapse, and her not not having to change her sobriety date is more important to her than some guy she just met.

Now you could say in turn, well I would not date a woman who won't drink any way. that's your prerogative. To be quite honest with you I don't think i could anymore. Well if they were hard core i COULDN'T' but most long term recovering addicts especially drinkers can go in a bar or have alcohol in the house and not be really tempted, i've been by coke more than once the last 2 years and the thought never crossed my mind to take a hit, but a woman who wont' come to your house and **** because you have drinks there, i can't do that today. That's up to you.

 

[Zarky]

I've dated alchies but they usually tell me that upfront. I've also dated women who simply don't drink. But for my purposes, if they don't drink, I'm really not very interested. I like booze and I don't like to drink alone. These days, if a chick won't drink, I won't date her.

And, quite honestly, if your intention is to get laid and get laid quickly, there are few things that will help you as much as the girl having a few drinks. So the drinking thing is a litmus test for me, and probably for many guys.

 

[kingsam]

I've dated alchies but they usually tell me that upfront. I've also dated women who simply don't drink. But for my purposes, if they don't drink, I'm really not very interested. I like booze and I don't like to drink alone. These days, if a chick won't drink, I won't date her.

And, quite honestly, if your intention is to get laid and get laid quickly, there are few things that will help you as much as the girl having a few drinks. So the drinking thing is a litmus test for me, and probably for many guys.

i find that people who never drink have a holier-than-thou attitude about it, and most the ones ive met are way too serious ...i.e. they never party or let their hair down...

 

[jophil28]

:crackup: Geez, the solution to dating women with expectations is obvious -
Only go out with homeless alcoholics. They will drink cheap wine, they don't care where you take 'em, you will get a BJ in the alley of your choice, and after you're done you can drop them off anywhere....:crazy:

 

[Bluntmaster]

:crackup: Geez, the solution to dating women with expectations is obvious -
Only go out with homeless alcoholics. They will drink cheap wine, they don't care where you take 'em, you will get a BJ in the alley of your choice, and after you're done you can drop them off anywhere....:crazy:

Foreign women are better. There's no doubt about it. I dated a venezuelan chic when I WAS still an AFC. This was 5 years ago.

She gave me a BJ every day, cooked, cleaned, and did anything I wanted.

I would have kept her but I was just learning the ways of DJ and dumped her. It may have been a mistake.

 

[jonwon]

I have gone on about 8 or so first dates in the last 2 months. They were all from cold approaches, and when I eventually ask someone out, I usually say something along the lines of, "Hey, are you free X night?" Then, if the answer is yes, I suggest (depending on the girl) either Starbucks or a bar around 9pm. This is done deliberately to be past normal "dinner time."

I think women have no right to my money, especially if I barely know them. In a LTR I am generous, and I always pay for dates with any girl (if you don't in my experience you are dead in the water) but I'll be damned if I'm going to wine and dine every girl I meet.

Anyhow, my point is this: I have had 2 women, almost as a counteroffer to "a drink" or "coffee at Starbucks," suggest literally "dinner and a movie" as a FIRST DATE. I barely know them. Age doesn't seem to matter: one was 35, and one was 24.

If I invited them to my house for the first date for sex you know what they would say in objection to that: "I barely know you!"

But these same women have the balls to suggest I spend $50 to $75 on them for a FIRST DATE when it could turn out we have nothing in common, they are annoying, they are cruel to animals, they are anti-my religion, their politics disgust me, etc.

I think dinners and movies are fine once you are getting pu$$y from a woman, but not before.

How do you guys counteract this?

Or is this just an example of Paul Janka's warning that "Difficult women remain difficult"?

PS-- nothing feels better than banging a girl once you have only spent $20 or less on her. No one should have to "buy" sex whether with cash to a prostitute or dinners to some girl you are dating.

This is like the girl you chat up in the bar and asks for a drink, to me its the same deal. Next and move on.

No need to dwell on it, women are known to milk a guy for a night out simply to break her boring daily routine, i.e your ok to fund her night out from doing nothing anyway - but she wont put out, its just a meal ticket, not neccassarily right with all women, but you can bet a good 80% who incist on a meal and a movie, with you paying are after freebies with no counter offer.

Trying to counter it is playing into her hands, just move on - working out the small % that could be genuine isn't worth it, there is a good chance she could be high maintainance anyway.

 

[AMDG]

How do you guys counteract this?

Offer a coffe or tea in a nice spot - that's all. Counter with a joke if they insist, and ignore them if they persist

I was fooled many years ago in going to restaurants - then I evolved and now the girls are actually cooking for me

 

[MatureDJ]

$60 can get me 2 hours with a gal in Eastern Europe.

 

[Todd Preston]

Here's what you say...

dj: i'm goin over to plus 5 lounge for a drink...meet me.
chik: eehhh...how bout diner and a movie?

dj: Wow...ok...but where are you taking me?
chik: Huh?
dj:Well...i'm very picky about where and what i eat. Where are u taking me?
chik: well...i thought you would take me since you are the guy?
dj: Oh...i see. Well the truth of the matter is i don't know u well enough to buy you diner. Where I'm from, asking a girl to diner is VERY FORWARD...and since we just met...i wouldn't want u to feel OBLIGATED to put out...

chik: Huh?
dj: IF you are interested, ill be at the pub...drop by for a drink...a friend of mine is bar tending and takes really good care of me and my mates...BYE NOW!

She'll never show....
That's how you get rid of these PROFESSIONAL dater chicks.
They are unabashedly USING MEN for meals.
I know chicks who do this on a weekly basis. They eat at the nicest restaurants in town.

NOTE
If you really want to play this chick, take her to the FANCIEST restaurant in town. She'll put on her little act like she's impressed with your chivalry. You order light (with the excuse that you're not that hungry). Cop some feels under the table and grope her at will. This girl's a "hoe" so show no mercy. After you've gotten your cheap thrill the food will come. Finish your meal and then move on back to the groping. Later, the bill will come. Ask the waiter for two checks...

When she balks, tell her that u only go dutch on the first date and that she will have to pay for her share. IF she continues to balk, tell the waiter that she won't pay....and pull out the funds for your LIGHT SALAD and TAP water drink. The look on her face will be priceless ! ! !
:crackup:

When's she's biotching about her $75 tab, tell her that "she looked like she enjoyed it".....and then tell her that if she wants, you'll buy her a Budweiser at your favorite pub....

LOL..."That's how you handle a professional dater!"

 

[Commandante]

I usually start with more of an action date.....

This is the best!

The quickest and best way to get know somebody is seeing her/him playing, loosing, winning, sweating etc.

 

[backbreaker]

nmm

 

[MatureDJ]

I suppose that if a man is of modest means, that he should not be spending such relatively large amounts of money on women. But of course, that is precisely why top quality women who are still available and not knocked up, etc., in that situation - because they are picky on securing a man that can do a good job of provisioning.

I suppose that I would have to take in the entire situation at hand to determine whether I wanted to actually have this outlay of cash. If I had the cash and she were rock hard sexy, I probably would. Hey, look at what Islamic suicide bombers go through for a chance at good 'tang (i.e., in the after life) ...

 

[jcap]

no wonder all of you can't get women
b1tchin about $50

why do girls not return your call? look at it from a female angle, you are broke as f uck who can't even afford 1 DINNER MEAL OUTSIDE?
If she partneres up with you , what are you going to do for the next 30 years?

MAKE SOME MONEY BEFORE GOIGN ON DATES WITH WOMEN.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

no wonder all of you can't get women
b1tchin about $50

why do girls not return your call? look at it from a female angle, you are broke as f uck who can't even afford 1 DINNER MEAL OUTSIDE?
If she partneres up with you , what are you going to do for the next 30 years?

MAKE SOME MONEY BEFORE GOIGN ON DATES WITH WOMEN.

Exactly. STOP IT WITH THE DATES! If you don't want/can't pay, then your a$$ better offer some value by making them want to spend time with you, regardless of what you do or where you go.

 

[Wilko]

I tend to think the dinner and movie business is an anachronism that should have been left behind in the 20th Century along with any expectation that a man ought to pay for a first date. I have to acknowledge there's parts of the world where it's probably still relevant, but not in my neck of the woods. Regardless, I've done it occasionally as a bit of an experiment and you know what, based on past experience and a bit of cost benefit analysis there's really no point in doing it (paying for her). So if there's no advantage to be had, I'd rather just keep my money.

 

[john siegal]

Classic..! ! !

I Love it....LOL!

Here's what you say...

dj: i'm goin over to plus 5 lounge for a drink...meet me.
chik: eehhh...how bout diner and a movie?

dj: Wow...ok...but where are you taking me?
chik: Huh?
dj:Well...i'm very picky about where and what i eat. Where are u taking me?
chik: well...i thought you would take me since you are the guy?
dj: Oh...i see. Well the truth of the matter is i don't know u well enough to buy you diner. Where I'm from, asking a girl to diner is VERY FORWARD...and since we just met...i wouldn't want u to feel OBLIGATED to put out...

chik: Huh?
dj: IF you are interested, ill be at the pub...drop by for a drink...a friend of mine is bar tending and takes really good care of me and my mates...BYE NOW!

She'll never show....
That's how you get rid of these PROFESSIONAL dater chicks.
They are unabashedly USING MEN for meals.
I know chicks who do this on a weekly basis. They eat at the nicest restaurants in town.

NOTE
If you really want to play this chick, take her to the FANCIEST restaurant in town. She'll put on her little act like she's impressed with your chivalry. You order light (with the excuse that you're not that hungry). Cop some feels under the table and grope her at will. This girl's a "hoe" so show no mercy. After you've gotten your cheap thrill the food will come. Finish your meal and then move on back to the groping. Later, the bill will come. Ask the waiter for two checks...

When she balks, tell her that u only go dutch on the first date and that she will have to pay for her share. IF she continues to balk, tell the waiter that she won't pay....and pull out the funds for your LIGHT SALAD and TAP water drink. The look on her face will be priceless ! ! !
:crackup:

When's she's biotching about her $75 tab, tell her that "she looked like she enjoyed it".....and then tell her that if she wants, you'll buy her a Budweiser at your favorite pub....

LOL..."That's how you handle a professional dater!"

 

[bugsquish]

Don't care about the money, but I only take girls on this kind of date if it's a LTR and some kind of event like a birthday or anniversary.

But "dinner and a movie" is still a great idea: only, I cook the dinner, and the movie (DVD) never arrives because we're too busy in the bedroom. This is my usual second date, although it has also been many successful first dates! My usual first date is a couple of drinks in a bar, followed ideally by a taxi back to my place.

 

[Solomon]

I suppose that if a man is of modest means, that he should not be spending such relatively large amounts of money on women. But of course, that is precisely why top quality women who are still available and not knocked up, etc., in that situation - because they are picky on securing a man that can do a good job of provisioning.

I suppose that I would have to take in the entire situation at hand to determine whether I wanted to actually have this outlay of cash. If I had the cash and she were rock hard sexy, I probably would. Hey, look at what Islamic suicide bombers go through for a chance at good 'tang (i.e., in the after life) ...

This is why a lot of posts on taking women out are a joke. If your dealing with a hot women (+8) she is expecting something more then just going out for a "drink" (depending on her age, etc). I'm curious to know how much guys spend on the top tier chicks or were they take them

no wonder all of you can't get women
b1tchin about $50

why do girls not return your call? look at it from a female angle, you are broke as f uck who can't even afford 1 DINNER MEAL OUTSIDE?
If she partneres up with you , what are you going to do for the next 30 years?

MAKE SOME MONEY BEFORE GOING ON DATES WITH WOMEN.

This shaming tactic makes me laugh, women espeically at bars and online wanna be "wined&dined" it seems espeically this year a lot of women are on some. "I'm tired of taking care of a man and wanna be romanced blah blah..." These women are typically poor quality(golddiggers), single moms or women who are plain dumb.

In exchange for taking her out to a meal she will grace you with her "presence", while keeping her legs closed.

 

[scrouds]

Welcome to old thread.

the part in 2011 started here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=175153&page=2#36

pùssies. The whole lot.