Women & Stock Behaviour

[crumpiteer]

1. There were listed companies which went bust after the public discovered that they have doctored their balance sheets & financial reports. Likewise, putting on a fake persona during the approach is a common way that guys screw themselves.

2. DJ Forum is like the stock market information. It is there to serve you and not to instruct you. It is not telling you whether you are right or wrong. Your own results will determine that.

3. A chick should be likened to a common stock in the stock exchange. Many guys have a stake of her in their minds. You are just one of the stakeholders. You have feelings about it, but it has no feelings about you. The stock doesn’t care what price you paid and how much more you will buy. A man shouldn’t get emotionally involved with stocks. Neither should he be emotionally attached to the girl.

4. Hot babes may be equated to a hot stock, whereby the demand tends to be euphoric and a case of overvaluation. Stocks tend to return to their intrinsic value over the long run. Hence, make sure you don’t get so wrapped up by a woman’s perceived value that you place yourself back into AFC mode.

5. You can’t precisely know the real worth of a stock. Likewise, you also don’t exactly know who the she really is. So, you should leave yourself a margin of safety. It’s wise to approach her with the readiness that you could be wrong to some extent and still come out ok.

 

[LaoDa]

sounds good...you must be in business school taking a finance class right? Nice girl is not a person...just a common stock..can she be a bond to? so if you are one of those captain save a hos then you are buying up a bunch of junk bonds and having them fall out on you...haha
anyways good post

 

[crumpiteer]

i guess you can call some of them bonds too. Coz when you make a release before its maturity, you tend to lose lots of interest.

Government bonds are stable & secure, but not so exciting.

Junk bonds (hos) may be cheap & exciting. The yield is high, but so are the risks (STD/AIDS).

Nevertheless, it's good to hold a diverse portfolio for hedging purpose, as well as making your life more fun.

 

[typical]

Oh god guys I'm a biochem major this stuff hurts my eyes man LOL

Back to the point very good way of seeing it

 

[Sapiens]

i guess you can call some of them bonds too. Coz when you make a release before its maturity, you tend to lose lots of interest.

Government bonds are stable & secure, but not so exciting.

Junk bonds (hos) may be cheap & exciting. The yield is high, but so are the risks (STD/AIDS).

Nevertheless, it's good to hold a diverse portfolio for hedging purpose, as well as making your life more fun.

:crackup: ROFLMAO!!

-Sapiens

 

[flexion_]

I think the forum is more like the finanical advisor telling you to diversify your portfolio for maximum long term success.

 

[crumpiteer]

Ms. Market & The Don Juan Investor

The concept of Ms. Market goes something like this: imagine you are partners in a private business with a woman named Ms. Market. Each day, she comes to your office or home and offers to buy your interest in the company or sell you hers [the choice is yours]. The catch is, Ms. Market is an emotional wreck. At times, she suffers from excessive highs and at others, suicidal lows.

When she is on one of her manic highs, her offering price for the business is high as well, because everything in her world at the time is cheery. Her outlook for the company is wonderful, so she is only willing to sell you her stake in the company at a premium. At other times, her mood goes south and all she sees is a dismal future for the company. In fact, she is so concerned, she is willing to sell you her part of the company for far less than it is worth. All the while, the underlying value of the company may not have changed - just Ms. Market's mood.

Now, the best part of this entire arrangement: you are free to ignore her if you don't like her price. The next day, she'll show up at your door with a new one. For your interest, the more manic-depressive she is, the more opportunity you will have to take advantage of her [don't worry, she doesn't have feelings or mind being taken advantage of.] As long as you have a strong conviction of what your company is really worth, you will be able to look at Ms. Market's offers and reject or accept them... THE CHOICE IS YOURS.

By thinking of stocks(chicks) in this way - as mere quotes from an emotionally unstable business partner - you are free from the emotional attachment most AFC investors feel toward rising and falling stock prices. Before long, when you are looking to buy stock you will welcome falling prices. The only time you want to invite high stock prices is when you are eager to sell your securities for some reason. Thankfully, being the DON JUAN INVESTOR, you are free to wait out Ms. Market's emotional roller coaster until she offers a price that you consider equal to or higher than intrinsic value. This is perhaps your greatest advantage in your investments.

 

[crumpiteer]

The Lessons Learnt

1. Be conservative in your valuation assumptions
Most investors (wusses/AFCs) have a peculiar habit of extrapolating recent events into the future. When times are good, they become overly optimistic about the prospects of their stocks & start to paint a rosy picture about the future. They only see themselves walking together by the beach, enjoying champagne, the steamy sex, etc. They forgot to think about those boring trips to the groceries & shopping malls, trying to find the carpark, those senseless arguments, etc.

2. Measure your success not by the price of the stock(chick), nor by it’s perceived value, but by the business’s actual underlying performance.
Yes, she may be an attractive HB9+. But does she try to please you? Is she good in bed? Does she have other qualities? Tell her that you are the shareholder, so it is your expectation & her responsibility to perform well!

3. Minimize frictional expenses
frequent & reckless trading can substantially lower your results due to commissions, fees and taxes. (buying her drinks, giving gifts & flowers, buying dinner, etc)

It’s better to trade wisely & make sure those stocks(chicks) pay out regular dividends to you (do your laundry, tidy up your place, cook for you, etc)

4. Keep your eyes open at all times
Great investors, are always on the lookout for the next opportunity. Their investigative homework: traveling the country(field-tests) to examine other companies (sarging), & testing new products(closing).

 

[crumpiteer]

The challenging thing about Ms Market is that there are long periods of time when she seems to be acting completely irrational. No matter how much you reason or complain, she just continues to do what she wants. The more you fight the more obstinate she becomes. When you arrive at the point where you simply can't take it any longer and decide to cut your losses, all those arguments that you have been making suddenly start to matter and her direction starts to shift towards you. There are a a lot of times you just wanna speculate in other kinds of stocks. There are blue chip stocks, penny stocks, dotcom stocks. They are all so interesting. But failing to respect the intelligence and influence of Ms Market is sometimes hard to do.

Still, that doesn't mean you shouldn't look for turning points,

 

[n00bPimp]

Somebody has been watching Mad money for a little too long.

 

[crumpiteer]

haha. just drawing a few analogies which relate to both my financial knowledge & women. Markets & women really seem to behave in similar fashion...

 

[Stackthestyles]

I want to become a stock trader!!!

What should the bootcamp look like?

 

[crumpiteer]

I want to become a stock trader!!!

What should the bootcamp look like?

do you mean real stock trader?

i think a good way is to take a dealer/remisier course, sit for the exams & then obtain a dealer/remisier licence. with this you can join the stock brokerage as a broker. from there you can experience the roller-coaster ride of the markets without risking your money. from there, once you made some money you can start small & start trading a bit by yourself, & grow from there...

 

[Sapiens]

The P_ssy Contract

What's the spot price on the P_ssy Contract? I would like to take actual delivery also. LOL

-Sapiens

 

[crumpiteer]

Holy Grails Do Not Exist. There Are No Market "Secrets"

Traders and investors (guys) have always dreamed of magical formulas (seduction secrets) or Holy Grails enabling them to beat the market (get any women anytime, anywhere) and reap huge profits (sex). Pursuing Holy Grails only ends in disaster. For example, among the garbage you will find out there: black boxes or secretive computer systems where the rules are hidden. Black box systems lose in the real world. They are useless. The absolute key is a proper overall education (DJ mindset).

Consider John W. Henry's wisdom:

There is no Holy Grail. There is no perfect way to capture [the] move from $100/ounce to $800/ounce in gold...We cannot be profitable every month; we don’t try; we’re not that smart...but we feel that we can rely upon a philosophy that has worked very well over the last 17 years, and only pay attention to what the markets are saying currently (every game set is a different one), and don’t ask why the dollar is going up or why interest rates are going down. Our philosophy is that if something is going down (if a girl is disinterested in you) , we want to be short (then, next her). Period.
John W. Henry

Even though Henry's words are clear, the desire for many is still to find the "secret" or "quick solution". They miss the point.

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Conclusion

if you are here thinking Trend Following (accepting people's posts as 100% gospel truth) will make you absolutely successful, then you can't be more wrong. If you are here seeking a pitchman (pook, or whoever) pretending to be your market hero, again wrong web site. All that said, we still have people come to this site in search of the Trend Following (or DJ Bible) secret. If you want the quick fix, the instant profit landfall or the insider’s tip, no one can help you. Some would just rather have illusions than reality.

What is reality? Great Trend Following systems (ie. DJ Bible) use rules, logic, parameters, methods, processes, formulas, data, and research. You will not find the Holy Grail here.

 

[crumpiteer]

What's the spot price on the P_ssy Contract? I would like to take actual delivery also. LOL

-Sapiens

if all of you execute at the G-Spot price, the market will move to a new high.

 

[Sapiens]

if all of you execute at the G-Spot price, the market will move to a new high.

Careful, we don't want to create a bubble...or in second thought we could sell short at the peak. LOL not to be a bear and all.

 

[crumpiteer]

Careful, we don't want to create a bubble...or in second though we could sell short at the peak. LOL not to be a bear and all.

yes, you should WITHDRAW just right before its peak

 

[Sapiens]

yes, you should WITHDRAW just right before its peak

LOL, you are correct, a PUT would be dangerous since you will be CALLed later... unless the decides to Let It Ride even though she may be In The Money...

 

[crumpiteer]

A Dozen Reflections on Life and Markets

A Dozen Reflections on Life and Markets

Brett N. Steenbarger, Ph.D.

www.brettsteenbarger.com

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I've never seen a trader succeed whose explicit or implicit goal was to not lose. The trader who trades to not lose is like the person who lives to avoid death: both become spiritual hypochondriacs.

No union was ever destroyed by a failure of romance. It is the loss of respect, not love, which ends a relationship.

Love, once present, never dies. It must be killed.

Sometimes we select markets--and trading styles--much as we choose romantic partners: by their ability to validate our deepest-held images of ourselves. Our choices generally succeed, for better or for worse.

Many a trader fears boredom more than loss, thereby experiencing the two in sequence.

Goodness of character is measured in loyalty to others; greatness of character is measured in loyalty to principle.

A measure of the soul: the degree to which the surpassing achievements of others evoke inspiration rather than envy.

Show me what a man loathes, and I will show you what he cannot accept in himself.

Two traders: one increases size after a loss; the other gets smaller. Both continue to lose.

The absence of self-acceptance too often masquerades as the desire for self-improvement.