Women never change

[Philippe Schlichting]

When I started practicing pickup at the age of 23 in 2005, women showed a certain behavior. They did not supply entertainment, they did not contribute, they wanted to be entertained and they wanted to be led. Today, in 2013, I found this behavior: They do not supply entertainment, they do not contribute, they want to be entertained and they want to be led.

Even though I went sarging in the meantime (a lot), I had this epiphany today. Women never ever change. I change all the time, I try this, I try that, they remain the same people they were eight years ago.

And I mean that in a negative way: you still go out and meet nobody if you don't put effort in as a man.

Instead of improving any situation women leave. Escape. Run. Even if just one girl feels excluded. If you feel bad women around you feel bad. Whatever you do that does not improve their moods, according to them and the pu-community it's your fault.

As if every girl on this planet talked to each other girl and they agreed upon a certain behaviour.

Every day I go out sarging they remind me of the fact that they are lazy insecure but arrogant people who lie on a constant basis and we are supposed to pamper them by talking about their clothing styles, their feelings and their boring lives, hoping that they allow us to touch them.

 

[Thoma]

And yet, some men have learned what it takes to be successful with them. So we must keep improving, must keep trying and we'll get what we want.

 

[Philippe Schlichting]

And yet, some men have learned what it takes to be successful with them. So we must keep improving, must keep trying and we'll get what we want.

Define successful.

 

[CloudSurfer]

Yes, Philippe, it is similar with me.
This is the sad truth what you are writing.

Of course complaining wont help much and we
just have to move on, go on, we need women
and sex for being healthy man.

But going through my daily life, I often feel
like "man" is looked at as an inferior human being in our society.
Not only me. My collegues, friends, the men in the media.
despite all the talent and what they accomplish an do.

Ofcourse, we can and I did have sex with 50 different women,
have a few LTRs, some girls which want us as LTR.

We might be accepted individually.
But for society ... we are just a lousy man

 

[Philippe Schlichting]

Ofcourse, we can and I did have sex with 50 different women,
have a few LTRs, some girls which want us as LTR.

No you didn't.

 

[floydb25]

You need to flip the script (ie, change the frame), and stop going with how THEY want things to be, or as you perceive it. You're basically repeating the nice guy mantra - "oh, I have to do this and that then MAYBE she'll let me touch her". This results in failure and rejection. That's what attraction is all about, really, so you DON'T go this route, do all these nice guy things, and not get **** - because it's not necessary OR effective.

Yeah, you might have to approach, but you don't have to do all that traditional ****; act like a nice guy; make it all about them; etc.

It's the mindset that needs changing, more than anything. You're viewing it from a nice guy lense, and disliking the results - because its not effective or reality. There's no success; just complaining about how unfair the status quo is from your perspective.

Also, don't assume that nobody is successful, or try to disregard their claims. It's not necessary, and is a failure's mindset. People that fail disbelieve that others are succesful, and try to water down their claims. They also talk the most ****, and try to get other's to fail as they have. Makes them feel better about their own insecurities. Bad route to go down.

 

[Philippe Schlichting]

floydb25, you need to go out more, your fantasy world doesn't cut it.

 

[floydb25]

Whatever. I experienced this **** in the "real world" and had the same mindset and failure. But keep talking **** about everyone and their philosophies / learned lessons, because you keep failing and need to take it out on others. See if I care if you remain a loser who hates and disregards everything.

 

[Philippe Schlichting]

Whatever. I experienced this **** in the "real world"

Your computer + forum experience and what your mum told you is not the real world my friend.

 

[floydb25]

It's cool. I don't really care what you think. So, keep failing and being negative / taking your insecurities out on others. Doesn't bother me none. :moon:

 

[Philippe Schlichting]

I don't really care what you think.

Yes you do.

 

[floydb25]

Yes you do.

Nah... It's nothing new. I've dealt with people like you in the "real world". ****, a bunch of them were good friends (ie, fake friends). Another thing I learned: don't care what failures who dump their insecurities out on you think. Don't defend or prove yourself to them, either. AND, don't associate with those who bring you down, stoop to their level, or seek anyone's approval. So, I don't.

 

[CloudSurfer]

When reading this, I feel how much pain and suffering
there is among men.

And I know, Philippe, you wont believe me, but
if you have the women in your bed - originally I assumed
you have some in your bed- this will not change
the world, may your world a little bit - for a few days.

But still as you mentioned very well in your starting post,
many women will not be active, may be lie, "shoot" men down
whenb theyx approach. Women can do this, they are women
and have a high value, which we do not have, at least not in the
eyes of the majority of people.

Sad, but true.
Modern Times

 

[SamTheHobit]

Sometimes I get those days where I just want to murder every b!tch I see.

 

[Philippe Schlichting]

I've dealt with people like you in the "real world"

If you had tried to deal with me like that in real life, you would have had an "accident" already and wouldn't be able to write here, my friend.

 

[Philippe Schlichting]

When reading this, I remember my pain and suffering

Corrected your post.

 

[Bokanovsky]

When I started in 2005 women showed a certain behavior. They did not engage initially, they did not contribute, they wanted to be entertained and they wanted to be led. Today, in 2013, I found this behavior: They did not engage initially, they did not contribute, they wanted to be entertained and they wanted to be led.

I don't know if you realize this, but it's not like that in all cultures...just the Western culture, where the value of pvssy is heavily inflated, while d!ck is a perpetual black friday discount special. And it's men's fault, for the most part. Men put so much effort into meeting women that women don't really have to do anything. It's a zero sum game.

 

[CloudSurfer]

Yes, also my pain and suffering.
Not much to remember, it is still there.

Society IS like this today, and will not change in the near future.

 

[Philippe Schlichting]

I don't know if you realize this, but it's not like that in all cultures...just the Western culture, where the value of pvssy is heavily inflated, while d!ck is a perpetual black friday discount special. And it's men's fault, for the most part. Men put so much effort into meeting women that women don't really have to do anything. It's a zero sum game.

What do you suggest? Moving to south america?

 

[CloudSurfer]

I don't know if you realize this, but it's not like that in all cultures...just the Western culture, where the value of pvssy is heavily inflated, while d!ck is a perpetual black friday discount special. And it's men's fault, for the most part. Men put so much effort into meeting women that women don't really have to do anything. It's a zero sum game.

How is it different in other cultures?

What would be other values in Western culture, except pvssy?
We have wealth, electricity, food, a bathroom,
for most people. But pyssy is hard to get. So it has
more value, than electrcity or a bathroom