picard
Master Don Juan
have you guys noticed that women manager & HR are more critical than men?
how do you guys deal with women manager?
how do you guys deal with women manager?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
women manager & HR are more critical than men?
- Thread starter picard
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Hooligan Harry
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I have only ever had one line manager that was a woman, although most companies you work for these days have women on the board. (I guess even the corporates need their window dressing) I got away with murder because she wanted to jump my bones and we clicked from day 1. Everyone elses life she made absolute hell. They hated her.
Having managed women, I have come to the conclusion I would never want to be managed by one again. Vindictive, self centered and childish beyond reason.
There is no way to deal with them. You tolerate them or you make plans to move on. You cant reason with an irrational creature and if she has it it for you she has it in for you.
Sorry, wish I could be more diplomatic about the whole thing but I have zero confidence in a womans ability to manage her own ****, let alone everyone elses. If you are having problems then only way to resolve it is to improve your personal relationship with her, not your professional one. Unfortunately for women they have no ability to separate the two.
Having managed women, I have come to the conclusion I would never want to be managed by one again. Vindictive, self centered and childish beyond reason.
There is no way to deal with them. You tolerate them or you make plans to move on. You cant reason with an irrational creature and if she has it it for you she has it in for you.
Sorry, wish I could be more diplomatic about the whole thing but I have zero confidence in a womans ability to manage her own ****, let alone everyone elses. If you are having problems then only way to resolve it is to improve your personal relationship with her, not your professional one. Unfortunately for women they have no ability to separate the two.
You treat them like you would any other woman, make it her goal to prove herself to you.
Human nature didn't change with job descriptions. She's a woman and if she thinks you are of higher value than her and she thinks you know that, she will go out of her way to make you think she's an amazing woman. Not HR person, but woman. If you are a strong man who has confidence, it doesn't matter if she is technically "above you", you will be the one with higher value.
In the same way that they'll give you perks and pull strings when they like you, when they don't get their way, they will use your job against you. That's when you have to have some balls and not be afraid to put her in her place and tell her off. It is a fine line sometimes. But you have to cross it. Or she will never respect you. Human nature does not change with job titles.
Whenever you're dealing with women, you have to have balls. Whether they are girls you are dating, co-workers, or women who have authority over you, they have to fit into your frame.
You need to completely forget the concept that this is some 21st century office with rules and regulations and roles you're supposed to be playing. She's a woman, you're a man, you take over. And when you do it right, they will forget their job description. You will have certain leeway, that other guys WILL NOT have. You will be able to get away with murder, while the AFC co-worker you have, will get extra grief to make up for it.
Just like women come second in life, they come second in the workplace. Even when they have authority.
Human nature didn't change with job descriptions. She's a woman and if she thinks you are of higher value than her and she thinks you know that, she will go out of her way to make you think she's an amazing woman. Not HR person, but woman. If you are a strong man who has confidence, it doesn't matter if she is technically "above you", you will be the one with higher value.
In the same way that they'll give you perks and pull strings when they like you, when they don't get their way, they will use your job against you. That's when you have to have some balls and not be afraid to put her in her place and tell her off. It is a fine line sometimes. But you have to cross it. Or she will never respect you. Human nature does not change with job titles.
Whenever you're dealing with women, you have to have balls. Whether they are girls you are dating, co-workers, or women who have authority over you, they have to fit into your frame.
You need to completely forget the concept that this is some 21st century office with rules and regulations and roles you're supposed to be playing. She's a woman, you're a man, you take over. And when you do it right, they will forget their job description. You will have certain leeway, that other guys WILL NOT have. You will be able to get away with murder, while the AFC co-worker you have, will get extra grief to make up for it.
Just like women come second in life, they come second in the workplace. Even when they have authority.
I actually wouldn't mind. My last manager was a total b*tch for no reason, but it was fun when she tried to impose her will on me. Too bad I was friends with her boss which was a guy, and I replaced her.Hooligan Harry said:
Still friends, kind of. Outside of work she was really chill.
So yeah, do what reset ^ says. He knows how to control b*tches like this.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.