Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Women Insisting On Paying: Anyone Notice This More Frequently?

Young Juan

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Whats up guys? In the last month or two, I've noticed that women are not only offering, but rather insisting on paying for me at movies, food, and even drinks at the clubs.

Believe me, I'm not complaining. Its just an interesting phenomenon I'm wondering if anyone else is noticing happening with much much more frequency.

The other thing is that some of these women I hadn't even slept with yet, some I had (and well of course), and the other few were women I had just met at the club, were younger, and didn't even come home with me.

Being a person that does pretty well for himself, its somewhat second nature for me to pay when I invite a woman out so it always catches me off guard when a woman whips out her card faster than I can grab my wallet.

Anyone else notice?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Warrior74

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depends on the quality of the women. higher quality woman = more likely to pay. plus alot of women i know get stuck with guys who pay and then act like they expect sex, so they pay to defuse that bomb.
 

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ive also had many girls that insist on paying to prove to you that they are not one of the dependant chics thats gonna drain you..sometimes this is true..sometimes its not and that changes over time.
however, i usually enjoy the moment, thank them and tell em they're different, however im obliged to get the next bill..and i do..
it just means i can go home comfortable that i dont owe anybody anything..

i also think its self respect..i find chics that pay for stuff attractive..a 7 in my books would be an 8 if she shows that, because ive had so many 9s that suk me off for the S class or the high rise apartment. finding a chic that has self respect is really good.

atleast you know she has money and wont be like "I dont have any money, so i cant buy a bday gift."...thats something ive heard before so dont besurprised
 

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Young Juan said:
Whats up guys? In the last month or two, I've noticed that women are not only offering, but rather insisting on paying for me at movies, food, and even drinks at the clubs.

Believe me, I'm not complaining. Its just an interesting phenomenon I'm wondering if anyone else is noticing happening with much much more frequency.

The other thing is that some of these women I hadn't even slept with yet, some I had (and well of course), and the other few were women I had just met at the club, were younger, and didn't even come home with me.

Being a person that does pretty well for himself, its somewhat second nature for me to pay when I invite a woman out so it always catches me off guard when a woman whips out her card faster than I can grab my wallet.

Anyone else notice?
I've actually noticed they it the other way around, they keep their hands in their pockets all the time.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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facadegeniality

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what some of my friends told me is that they do not wanna feel indebted to the guy should they decide not to see him.

and they won't be seen as a money-leeching person.
 

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The girl I am seeing will pay for both of us a good portion of the time we go out together of her own will. Many times I'll suggest she picks up the tab for things or to get me a drink from the bar, and I've never had a problem with it, she's always been very willing to pay for herself of for both of us.

Of course, I am not a leech myself and will take care of the costs about as often as she does. We don't keep track, but it's probably about even between her or me paying.
 

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Cashew said:
Of course, I am not a leech myself and will take care of the costs about as often as she does. We don't keep track, but it's probably about even between her or me paying.
I think thats a good sign. Nothing worse then people counting the pennies.
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

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Looks like their trying to win you over!
 

Young Juan

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One of the chicks, we go back and forth usually, but we went to Mongolian BBQ place after not hanging out (and I use that term very loosely) for a month, and was very assertive about paying.

The chicks at the club not wanting to feel indebted makes sense but we did end up making out after the fact, although she didn't come home with me so I didn't get her number.

The try to win me over? Possibly, but in retrospect, I'm now pretty sure she puts my c0ck on a pedestal. In reviewing everything we've done since day 1, she bought me drinks, treated me to the new 007 (her suggestion), and was always offering to get lunch for me when we worked together.

The most recent chick tried to say I owed her lunch for some paltry favor she did for me. I didn't buy because I didn't feel like it. The next week, she did me another favor AND bought me lunch after I jokingly suggested she owed me. This one is most likely trying to win me over now, or at least sack me.

"Damn it feels good to see people up on it."
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Nearly all women I've dated want to pay. Sometimes I let them pay their parts, sometimes I'd get the bills for dinner / movies and they'd buy me drinks later. I tell them that they're getting a bum deal as I can drink a lot (I don't). I don't keep track of it, but it works out to be about even.

Occasionally I get a few chicks who play the "oh sh!t I forgot my wallet / cash" BS and they never get a second chance.
 

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The last girlfriend I was with paid for quite a bit. Sometimes I would have to police her spending on me throughout the relationship. That changed when we had a lot of problems in the last year. To me, it could mean different things:

1) She is really into you
2) She spends to compensate for something or is insecure (say she engages in red flag behavior)
 
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