"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Women in Bars

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I have read the “Women in Bar” remarks coming and going for quite some time. Here is my view as a man that used to party a lot and do the Happy Hour from time to time and as a Man that have lived or worked or visited big cities such as San Juan, D.C., Chicago, Madrid, London, Barcelona, Miami, New York City, Las Vegas, Houston, etc. And had my share of small and “country” cities too.

From a single’s woman perspective:

Lot of professionals, males and females do the Happy Hour. Many times that’s a way people network. There is nothing wrong with women doing the Happy Hour from time to time. This is common in big and medium size cities with high educational level.

Now, going out to a nightclub once in a while is not that bad either if she is single.

Now…if she is a single woman, but have children…and she frequents the Nightclubs and Bars then I have serious doubt about that woman. If she goes to the Honky Tonk bars frequented by truckers, etc…well, I have doubts too.

Going to bars and nightclubs is not the thing that makes a woman high or low quality for lack of better terms. It is how she behaves in that environment.

You meet a woman at church on Sunday morning and you are going to see her with her BEST POSSIBLE FACE and BEHAVIOR. And it could be very deceiving too. But beware…that same woman might be the one that is DRUNK and grinding strangers on Friday nights.

I know some VERY good women that do the Happy Hour from time to time after work with their peers and co-workers.

That said…meeting DRUNK women is not advisable. But no every woman that goes to a nightclub is a drunk. Some simply go because they want to have a good time with their friends.


Now...that's for SINGLE women.

If she is married or in a committed relationship...then my opinion might change considerably.
 

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Don't know why it gets under my skin, but every time I hear someone spouting the whole "you aren't gonna find a good woman in a bar" thing.......:box:

I just want to grab people sometimes and shake the sh!t out of them. Maybe the short circuit caused by years of brainwashing will somehow magically repair itself and they will see the light!

Are there a higher percentage of less desirable women in bars and clubs? I would have to say "yes". But what percentage of them are total trash, the kind of girl that only a REALLY fukked up guy would consider a relationship with?

I hesitate to even guess to put a number on it, but the point is, it's not 50%. It's not 25%. Probably not even 10%. Maybe a few more than in "real life".

That leaves quite a few women who might be dating potential, no matter how you slice it.

But lots of guys would have you believe that it's 90-100% trash.

I don't buy it. I've had LTR's and STR's with women I have met in clubs. I have made friends with cool women who go to the same clubs i go to. Lots (pretty much all of the single ones) of my friends go to clubs at least once or twice per month. I KNOW BETTER. It isn't some kind of freak fest.
 

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STR8UP said:
Don't know why it gets under my skin, but every time I hear someone spouting the whole "you aren't gonna find a good woman in a bar" thing.......:box:

I just want to grab people sometimes and shake the sh!t out of them. Maybe the short circuit caused by years of brainwashing will somehow magically repair itself and they will see the light!
I agree! We are both on the same exact page when it comes to knowing the "no quality women in bars" bullsh*t is actually bullsh*t, but from how I read Latinoman's post I don't think he disagrees. I mean, his argument was that appearances are deceptive and locations are irrelevant. His argument was simply to evaluate the contextual frame of clubbing in the woman's life, whether it be occasionally, recreationally, or the strung-out junkie.
 

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yea, I wasnt referring to Latinoman, just commenting on the subject.

Ready to pick up some trashy hors tomorrow night? LOL
 

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STR8UP said:
Ready to pick up some trashy hors tomorrow night? LOL
Only the ones who only come out on a full moon, hah.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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STR8UP

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Deep Dish said:
Only the ones who only come out on a full moon, hah.
Those are the BEST ONES!

No kidding man, SOMETHING is gonna happen, I'll almost guarantee it. Especially if the girls show up.
 

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Latinoman said:
Going to bars and nightclubs is not the thing that makes a woman high or low quality for lack of better terms. It is how she behaves in that environment.
That is too abstract. no two environments or situations are a like. A woman could be going out with her coworker's on one night and act all sweet and goody while the following week she gets dumped by her boyfriend and goes out with her slutty friends and they influence her and get her drunk and she starts grinding her ass on many crotches.

The bar and club environment just amplifies everything. Unless she let guys fvck her on the floor, there is no real way to know what kind of person you are dealing with. Alcohol can make good girls look bad one night while it can also make bad girls look tame the same night (both in their behaviours and your own perception).

STR8UP said:
Don't know why it gets under my skin, but every time I hear someone spouting the whole "you aren't gonna find a good woman in a bar" thing.......:box:
Those people are right actually, its a warning for the chumps out there who frequent bars alot and are slave's to the pvssy (I am not talking about Don Juan's, I am talking about your basic AFC's as an example). What you see in a woman's behaviour in a bar is just a small portion of her character that showcases her basic sexual assets. You become mesmerize by it and due to your own alcohol intake you are less likely to make a rational decision. Your world becomes basic and you start thinking like a 14 year old "mmmm beer and her boobs almost sticking out makes me happy, forget the fact she just mentioned that she lives with 10 cats, her husband is in prison and she is on welfare with 3 kids from different daddys, she is stroking my knee for goodness sake!! I am getting laid tonight!" and then those same guys fall for her, get oneitis and end up being fvcked over.

Therefore she could easily be a psycho and you would have much easier time to detect it anywhere else as opposed to a club, bar environment.
 

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DJDamage said:
Therefore she could easily be a psycho and you would have much easier time to detect it anywhere else as opposed to a club, bar environment.
Yea, but a club is nothing more than a place to connect when you meet a chick in that environment. You don't usually end the night saying "Ok, same time, same place next week?". You get the digits, and/or get her back home. The psycho detection can be saved for your second interaction.

i will admit that when I met my last LTR at a club, it wasn't a one night close. Didn't even get her # that night. Wasn't even particularly attracted to her at first, even though she was good looking. It was "hey, nice to meet you, see you around" thing at the end of the night. Then I saw her there again a couple of weeks later and we hung out and danced and again went our separate ways.

It wasn't until the third or fourth time I saw her there (we were both obviously regulars) that I got her and her friends back to my place after the club, and when they were about to leave I handed her my phone and told her to put her # in it.

The next two years were filled with hot, steamy, monkey sex. Sometimes I miss the hot, steamy, monkey sex.....
 

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The whole "bars are a lousy place to meet women" argument has a lot of basis in plain old misogyny, madonna and *****.

We want girls to drink and party and have sex... with US. But if they go out with the intention to do it with someone else, then they're dirty sluts.

Screw that. If you can't tell a girl that's good for you from someone who's going to be a pain, that's your problem. I do just fine.
 

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Saying that there are no good women in bars is a negative attitude, and will create a self-fulfilling prophecy for you. Yes, there are bad women in bars, but there are some good ones too.

I say approach each woman in a bar as if she is a quality one. This way, you show genuine interest in her. H3ll, if you truly have this attitude, you WILL show geniune interest in her. If you have genuine interest in her, she'll pick up on it., and she has a higher chance of opening up to you and showing you her true colors. Then, you can spot the red flags. If people are comfortable with you, they become more relaxed...they don't feel judged. A negative attitude is NOT a successful mindset.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Just another buffer.

I met Mrs. Tomassi in a bar while she was on a girls night out and I was watching a friend's band playing that night. Followed her and friends to another club that night too. Number and kiss closed that night, knocked it out 2 dates after that. Result: 11 years of marriage to a fantastic woman who could still model swimwear now, 9 y.o. daughter, a university degree thanks to her being supportive.

Yeah, stay away from clubs guys, no "quality women" there. Just stick to what's safe, like eHarmony and MySpace that's where the good ones are,...
 

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I caught a bass before in a "crappie pond". That doesn't mean I'd fish the crappie pond if i was out fishing for bass.

If my #1 objective was maximum odds for a keeper and not just a "single-life ONS", I'd probably go somewhere besides a bar; but that's just me maybe.
 

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If bars were not coed, would they be as popular as they are? LOL - why are YOU there? How come the "girls nights out" always end up in bars?
 

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I'd say it depends on location. Where I live within a 15 mile radius you can find areas with complete and total losers, young professionals, obscenly rich, avg suburbia.. etc.

I can pick and choose which bars I can find quality women in, of course there is exceptions and you can always have a bad seed in a "decent" bar (that happened recently :p) but if you get some numbers in a decent area odds are these girls are normal and there is nothing wrong with them. I also know where to go if I want to find some crack head with 3 kids and 3 different baby daddies.
 
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