women have self entitlement issues

[lamobatsman]

why is it that a woman expects things from a guy and gets pissed off if he doesnt deliver it ( like if you are an orbiter). But if the guy is attractive she doesnt expect or gets pissed off with that guy?

 

[Mike32ct]

why is it that a woman expects things from a guy and gets pissed off if he doesnt deliver it ( like if you are an orbiter). But if the guy is attractive she doesnt expect or gets pissed off with that guy?

It's a punishment versus reward thing. She punishes the less attractive orbiter guy for his "sin" of not being hot by expecting him to do things for her. It's a "not hot tax" of sorts lol.

If you aren't hot and you refuse to pay the "not hot tax," you aren't allowed in presence.

I don't know if they do this consciously or unconsciously, but they do.

But either way, this is why you should never be an orbiter.

 

[Thomson]

You do it too!

 

[lamobatsman]

I do?

 

[Purefilth]

It's a punishment versus reward thing. She punishes the less attractive orbiter guy for his "sin" of not being hot by expecting him to do things for her. It's a "not hot tax" of sorts lol.

If you aren't hot and you refuse to pay the "not hot tax," you aren't allowed in presence.

I don't know if they do this consciously or unconsciously, but they do.

But either way, this is why you should never be an orbiter.

Even hot guys get tested - they try to shake the frame and see if it falls to pieces.

Welcome to the world of shiit tests.

 

[lamobatsman]

Its like for example you be a real gentleman and do nice things. I remember one girl.told me that her friend thought i was a nice guy going out of my way for the girl i liked. But you do one wrong thing they forget all the nice things you have done and they turn into *****es

 

[ludis]

Its like for example you be a real gentleman and do nice things. I remember one girl.told me that her friend thought i was a nice guy going out of my way for the girl i liked. But you do one wrong thing they forget all the nice things you have done and they turn into *****es

That's because the nice guy is grade A exploitable material.
The nice guy is being used and abused (and not in the fun way), although it's his own spinelesness that allows this to happen.
And then the nice guy wonders why they despise him.
Never be the "nice guy".
Do nice things only as a reward for good behavior.

 

[Thomson]

I do?

If you are having an affair with a hot babe. And if you are having an affair with a ugly fat chick. Tell me which one will you treat better? And will you treat the other one completely different? Will you be completely fine if a hot chick want to f ck you and how about the fat chick? Will you be fine if you take a fat ugly chick into your social circle and how about the super hot chick?

Don't fool yourself. That is how life functions. We always want something more. Even when you get the super hot girl in your hand, your whole approach of being nice is just to get her in your hand, when you can take her for granted then you will rationalize that she has turned into ugly chick. The same chick but once she is all over you, you lose interest. Then you treat her the same way as the ugly fat chick. There is no difference. You will aim for someone else more hotter and the same vicious circle goes on. Don't fool yourself. Only an idiot does.

 

[nismo-4]

Does Briffault's Law hold any meaning for you?

 

[Jaylan]

In general most people treat attractive folks better. Just have to be mindful not to do that.

 

[Aristippus]

Women have entitlement issues across the board. It doesn't matter if you're what you call an "orbiter" or the man she wants to have sex with. The difference is that one man she is sexually attracted to and the other she isn't. The man that she is not attracted to but that's attracted to her will do all kinds of favors for her in a lame attempt to flatter and "favor" her into getting hot and horny.

He thinks if he does just ONE more favor it will get him approval and that she will become sexually aroused. It never happens because she isn't interested in him. The man she's sexually interested in doesn't have to do a single favor for her and she'll have sex with him sooner or later. If they get sexually involved or even before hand, she will ask for favors. Typically what happens a lot of times is the sex will come first and then later she will try to get him to run the favor mill.

The difference between one and the other is this.
Guy #1- She has entitlement issues but no sexual arousal
The man she wants to sleep with- She has entitlement issues and also sexual arousal and is willing to postpone the fulfillment of her entitlement issues in order to satisfy her sexual arousal first.

 

[Aristippus]

p.s. The favor mill is a cold machine that knows no satisfaction and whose greed knows no bounds. Avoid it at all costs even if she's sexually attracted to you. It's an evil beast whose appetite only gets bigger and hungrier the more you feed it and whose sense of appreciation shrinks in proportion to how much you do for it while the sense of entitlement increases in the exact same proportion. Sad but true.

 

[HalfPUAHalfAFC]

When a woman is attracted to a man, I mean really attracted, she'll forgive him everything.

When a woman is not attracted to a man, his favors to her gain no purchase.

 

[PlayHer Man]

I made a thread discussing how to deal with this a while back:

Link--> http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=204370

Basically.. as a man you need to lead all relationships and make sure women agree to your terms before you associate with them. Don't give to women who don't give back.

Simply put --> Refuse to be an orbiter

Only be "friends" with woman you DON'T want to sleep with. If you want to f*ck them.. then f*ck them. If you can't then LEAVE.

 

[Tictac]

They are women. They've been taught from birth that they are entitled.

That's why an experienced Don Juan can throw them off their game.

 

[Brosy]

He thinks if he does just ONE more favor it will get him approval and that she will become sexually aroused. It never happens because she isn't interested in him. The man she's sexually interested in doesn't have to do a single favor for her and she'll have sex with him sooner or later.

Yep, don't mug yourselves off, you shouldn't have to do a single favour for a girl to get sex, the more favours you do the more unlikely it gets in my experience.

If a girl asks you to do things, you should have a repertoire of cheeky responses along the lines of "do it your f!*king self princess".

Is merely yet another test.

 

[Aristippus]

Yep, don't mug yourselves off, you shouldn't have to do a single favour for a girl to get sex, the more favours you do the more unlikely it gets in my experience.

If a girl asks you to do things, you should have a repertoire of cheeky responses along the lines of "do it your f!*king self princess".

Is merely yet another test.

One small favor is fine. Like getting her a glass of water. Then you should start asking her for favors. She only gets one small favor. If she oversteps her boundaries with a ridiculous request the above response might work, minus the word "princess".

Less angry responses:
"No."
"You have two feet and two legs."
"Get it yourself."
"You're closer. You go get it."
"You're not an invalid."

Another rule. NEVER let a woman "borrow" money. Especially if you're dating her. Women are forced to be more responsible when it comes to paying off a loan they signed a contract for with the bank. They tend to be irresponsible, especially if a male is the lender and especially if that male is interested in her sexually, whether she is dating him or not. In many cases she will use the fact that either they are dating or that he's interested in her as an easy out to avoid paying it back.

 

[pinkfl]

why is it that a woman expects things from a guy and gets pissed off if he doesnt deliver it ( like if you are an orbiter). But if the guy is attractive she doesnt expect or gets pissed off with that guy?

Usually the woman-child like that have nothing but their looks to offer.
That is the type of female that is still in the high school mentality...the type of girl that is a sorority girl and dates someone for status and popularity and what other people think of her.

Basically? She's immature/hasn't grown up yet/hasn't put on her big girl panties yet.