"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Women get extremely intimidated by good lookin guys? FP inside..

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This is sort of a continuation of my last thread, describing my confusion on womans behavior around me ever since i fixed myself up (nice clothes, Ripped Body, Clean shaven...etc). As you might, might not remember... I go to a local restuarant close by that i regularly eat at since its close to work and the girls in there have always been very friendly/flirty with me. Well Today, I decide to go in to a quick bite before heading home, (BTW, today im lookin pretty good,.. Nice shoes, Jeans i just bought, white Fitted shirt that compliments my *new* body and clean shaven) Anyway, i go in and i get a stare by all of the ladies...Its doesnt appear to be a friendly stare either, so at this point im thinking to myself *WTF did i do?*.. This spanish girl who used to flirt with me ALOT! ignores me completely.. shes about a 6 maybe 7 for her body but Man did she ignore me.. Finally No one was helping me so she comes up and asks me what i want (keep in mind shes avoiding EC with me anyway she can) I turn to get a bottle of water and catch her looking at my chest then she looks away making my food with a smerk, which made me feel like i had something on me or i was being mocked somehow.

One of the girls in there (HOT 9) looks over at me once and turns her back on me, WTF? this same girl always started a conversation with me, now im ignored?.. Well anyway.. The spanish girls is done making my food and her co-worker comes over and smiles at me and says hello, i smile back and say hello then wispers something to the spanish girl... and she looks at me then away while smerking, not a smile or anything just a very small smerk... Now i really felt like they were making fun of me or something...

Im going to pay for my food and the Hot 9 is there at the register..(keep in mind this girl always conversated with me with a huge smile on her face) .. So i come up to the register.. and im trying to make EC with her and she Avoided it at all costs.. Although i was right in front of her, she Avoided me best she could.. So instead of checking me out at the register.. she turns her back and leaves me there.. Honestly, i felt like i was realy disliked by everyone for no apparent reason and i just wanted to pay and leave. so the spanish girl (Still avoiding EC) cashes me out and i then said "Bye, have a nice day" but then turns around quickly on me... handing me my card in a rude Fasion. I left and wondered,.... Maybe im ugly? Although alot of girls look at me and call me Sexy and Hot.. I lost my edge?. Im debating on ever going in there again, i was treated wrong for no reason although i was trying to be friendly. What the Hell is the deal with this type of attitude? Any advice on this sudden shift in behavior?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Oh christ, stop analysing! You sound like a woman yourself. Ifyou're as hot as you think you are you should have no problem getting laid. What is it with the questions on this board? :rolleyes:
 

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What if they're annoyed that you haven't made any moves on them?
What if they think that you're gay?

I'm serious.

Women can easily withdraw attention once they feel their interest is not returned.
 

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yeah man.. stop spending so much time analyzing that you forget to actually hit on the *****.

regardless if you are good looking or not, unlike you and most men, women have times more options, options that show interest, to not get hung up over your looks.. .women are the ultimate examples of how to spin plates.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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stop generalizing. most "women" are homely chubby things that aren't very sought after.

but on point, I get treated like crap/deliberately ignored by the young ins a lot for no other apparent reason so I assume they must be intimidated by my looks. i'm more amused than pissed off through. the bi*ch barrier can be broken through with some careful persistence.
 

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Interceptor said:
What if they're annoyed that you haven't made any moves on them?
What if they think that you're gay?

I'm serious.

Women can easily withdraw attention once they feel their interest is not returned.
So true. Women can be very weird that way. They want to act like they are the ones rejecting you, and not the other way around. Yes, if you don't make a move on them and jump on them, they will start ignoring, acting aloof, act cold, and show disinterest, mainly to save face, because they feel you rejected them.
 

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DevanE said:
She's ACTING disinterested in you by pretty much acting like a bit** and showing that she isn't fazed by your looks (which she is). I have the same problem to, the thing is that YOU probably have developed a strong presence and this sudden change has these girls flustered and they don't know how to "act" because they probably all like you.

All you have to do is NOT focus on the part that it's something to do with your looks because chances are it probably is...but rather do what you do. Learn to make people feel comfortable around by making them laugh and ease the tension. I remember reading something somewhere a long time ago, but sometimes when people go through a drastic change for the BETTER their will always be haters and envy is stirred up especially among your friends so don't expect everyone to embrace your "change" but rather embrace it yourself because at the end of the day nobody gives a fuk about you. I had and sometimes still do have the same problem but I've tweaked myself accordingly and it seems to be working pretty good so far I even made a thread about it in the mature man section and got some good advice but they eventually deleted it.

So all in all don't focus on sh** like that and if you see it, ignore it and be brave enough to give an attitude back if some "hor" disrespects you.
great advice devan, Thanks on the input. i also agree with you on the haters, No matter how well someone does, there will always be somebody to dislike you.
 

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Well, if you eat at this place often, and assuming that it takes at least a few months to get "ripped," what makes you think your physique was so much more intimidating this time than the last time you ate there? Also, is this the first time you've eaten there since you bought an entire new wardrobe, shaved, and gotten your hair cut?

this story seems a little unrealistic. Maybe their manager chewed them all out right before you came in.

or maybe there was someone else even hotter than you in the restaurant who was drawing their attention (and remember, "Hotness" for a man doesn't just mean looks!)
 
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what i think is that if you're good looking and u act confident, they're gonna think 'oh this guy thinks he can pull any girl, im gonna be extra defensive'
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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or maybe you forgot to tip them last time so they were pissed at you
 

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I think you're freaking out over nothing.

You say you stopped by on your way home, so I'm assuming the time was late. You have no idea what kind of day those girls had before you got there. They might have had to put up with some old dame's bridge club who ran them ragged and gave a .04 cent tip. They might have had a bunch of drunk jacka$$ business men who made crude jokes and tried to pat their butts.

Then YOU come in all dressed up and ready to be worshiped...and they just didn't have the energy.

Put to down to the girls had a bad day, try again tomorrow and DON'T WORRY SO MUCH!!!!!
 

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I think a picture of ya is justified in this thread. really, you might not be as good looking as you think, luckily you got us to whip you into shape.
 

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In2theGame said:
This is sort of a continuation of my last thread, describing my confusion on womans behavior around me ever since i fixed myself up (nice clothes, Ripped Body, Clean shaven...etc). As you might, might not remember... I go to a local restuarant close by that i regularly eat at since its close to work and the girls in there have always been very friendly/flirty with me. Well Today, I decide to go in to a quick bite before heading home, (BTW, today im lookin pretty good,.. Nice shoes, Jeans i just bought, white Fitted shirt that compliments my *new* body and clean shaven) Anyway, i go in and i get a stare by all of the ladies...Its doesnt appear to be a friendly stare either, so at this point im thinking to myself *WTF did i do?*.. This spanish girl who used to flirt with me ALOT! ignores me completely.. shes about a 6 maybe 7 for her body but Man did she ignore me.. Finally No one was helping me so she comes up and asks me what i want (keep in mind shes avoiding EC with me anyway she can) I turn to get a bottle of water and catch her looking at my chest then she looks away making my food with a smerk, which made me feel like i had something on me or i was being mocked somehow.

One of the girls in there (HOT 9) looks over at me once and turns her back on me, WTF? this same girl always started a conversation with me, now im ignored?.. Well anyway.. The spanish girls is done making my food and her co-worker comes over and smiles at me and says hello, i smile back and say hello then wispers something to the spanish girl... and she looks at me then away while smerking, not a smile or anything just a very small smerk... Now i really felt like they were making fun of me or something...

Im going to pay for my food and the Hot 9 is there at the register..(keep in mind this girl always conversated with me with a huge smile on her face) .. So i come up to the register.. and im trying to make EC with her and she Avoided it at all costs.. Although i was right in front of her, she Avoided me best she could.. So instead of checking me out at the register.. she turns her back and leaves me there.. Honestly, i felt like i was realy disliked by everyone for no apparent reason and i just wanted to pay and leave. so the spanish girl (Still avoiding EC) cashes me out and i then said "Bye, have a nice day" but then turns around quickly on me... handing me my card in a rude Fasion. I left and wondered,.... Maybe im ugly? Although alot of girls look at me and call me Sexy and Hot.. I lost my edge?. Im debating on ever going in there again, i was treated wrong for no reason although i was trying to be friendly. What the Hell is the deal with this type of attitude? Any advice on this sudden shift in behavior?
I THINK THIS IS TRUE!!! Im a checker at this grocery store. Sometimes when I see a very hot chick through my line, I would totally ignore her and not even make eye contact.. WHY>? To show her that the WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND HER and that not everyone worships her. At least thats how I feel about it. Its kind of a revenge thing against really hot chicks.
 

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I AGREE WITH THE NO TIP THINGY......better check your sandwich for spit next time.

GOOD LOOKING MEN absolutely have to turn the PICK-UP tactics way down, especially the C & F. No need to compensate for average looks by broadcasting you personality with seduction and confidence measures.

Hot men need to practice active diss-interest, talk less, and work on their smile and eye movements (think bad boy expression).
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I appreciate all the advice you guys are giving, even the abuse lol. Damn some of you like to come down hard on me but i understand what your trying to say. Ill try not to put too much mind into it. Yes, this is new for me but a Dj has to adjust to these things i assume.
 

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verysuave said:
I THINK THIS IS TRUE!!! Im a checker at this grocery store. Sometimes when I see a very hot chick through my line, I would totally ignore her and not even make eye contact.. WHY>? To show her that the WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND HER and that not everyone worships her. At least thats how I feel about it. Its kind of a revenge thing against really hot chicks.
Revenge? You don't even know these girls. Why would you want revenge against someone you don't know? What did she ever do to you? Doesn't everyone deserve some sort of common courtesy? Says more about you than the strangers you're dealing with in line.

But, I do understand the ignoring thing. Some girls are spoiled, they are used to getting their way, and the guy that doesn't do that can become intriguing to them. But there are also good looking girls who are actually decent people, and they get ignored not because guys are seeking revenge against them, but becuase they are so good looking that guys are intimidated by them, and they end up not being approached very often.

You can sit there and think, "this chick is so ****ing hot, I'm sure she's just a stuck up ***** who's ****ing some rich dude who treats her like **** and she loves getting brought back down to reality blah blah"....

And while that is true sometimes, it's all guesswork. You don't know anything about these people other than whatever imaginary things you project onto them.
 
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