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Women favor monogamy. Men favor polygamy

jhonny9546

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In The Polygamous Sex, Esther Vilar suggests that women are inherently monogamous because their care and sexual needs are fulfilled in separate ways: care through their children, and sexual satisfaction through men.


Men, however, depend on both their wives and their children to meet their care and sexual needs.
As a result, they begin to see their wives as "protected figures", similar to their children, which, according to Vilar, inhibits their ability to view their wives as sexual partners.
Therefore, men need to seek sexual satisfaction outside the marital relationship.

But Vilar claims this is only an option for wealthy men, those who can financially support multiple women.
I’m not entirely convinced that money is the only determining factor. For example, a man who is especially physically gifted down there, might attract women purely based on that, without needing to provide financial support.
In such cases, his sexual appeal becomes a currency. (better than money IMHO)


This leads to a deeper issue in many relationships: once a couple transitions into parenthood, the emotional dynamic changes. The wife receives care and support from her husband, but the sexual energy often diminishes. This happens on both sides. Despite trying to maintain intimacy through mutual respect and care, many couples find that their sexual connection fades, something they may not fully understand, but can certainly feel, and never get back to that prior spark.


It’s not uncommon for women, after having children, to begin seeking sexual fulfillment elsewhere, just as some men do. This doesn't necessarily mean the relationship is broken; it could mean the couple hasn't fully acknowledged this dynamic shift.
From my perspective, a truly healthy relationship is one where both partners can openly recognize these needs and create space for them, without shame, secrecy, or dishonesty. This doesn't mean being a "cuckold" or disrespecting the primary bond, but rather creating agreements that allow for occasional experiences outside the relationship.


For example, in my own relationship, I would offer my partner the option of having one lover of her choice, with clearly defined boundaries, such as a limited frequency, like once or twice a year.


This is a very good point from Vilar, can actually explain why women cheat, expecially after marriage and kids, and why men become so frustrated.



It could also highlight more clearly the dynamic often seen in relationships between a borderline woman and a narcissistic-sociopathic man. In these relationships, the partner is rarely perceived as either truly "caring" or truly "sexual." As a result, the emotional rollercoaster causes the relationship to swing between these two roles. At times, it may settle into one, such as a more nurturing role during the birth of children, only to shift back into the sexual sphere later on.


We often hear women in these relationships complain about their "husbands" because they struggle to identify or gain control over them. This is largely due to the man’s sociopathic or even avoidant tendencies, which cause him to intermittently fulfill the woman's needs for both emotional care and sexual connection, never fully satisfying either.



ps:
The book is still full of contradictions, for example one could also read things like

Jealousy is not necessarily a sign of love, but there can be no love without jealousy.
Tolerance is not a proof of love, in fact, it is quite the opposite.
Those who are ready to share their lover with another are unequivocally communicating to him that they are not interested in him as a sexual partner: what they feel for him is, at best, altruistic love or friendship.

The so-called "open marriage" which tolerates the acquisition of another sexual object by the partner – is not based on love, but on friendship.
Sexual relations between partners in an "open marriage" are a mutual and friendly service that has nothing to do with love.


"Vilar here, has forgotten his initial dialogue, which he presented as an example of true love between a man and a woman"
also


Romantic love between a man and a woman can last a lifetime.
There is no valid reason why a couple who falls in love at seventeen can't still love each other at seventy. The fact that lifelong love is rare is mainly due to two factors: a misunderstanding of sexual love as a form of selfless love, and the difficulty of finding a truly compatible partner.


So what makes someone the right sexual partner?
  1. physical polarity
  2. intellectual similarity

Physical polarity, is usually present in most couples. Biology tends to push us toward partners whose genetic traits complement ours. We instinctively choose someone who is clearly different from us in physical terms.


But intellectual similarity is often lacking, and it’s just as important. Here’s why:
  • When your sexual partner is intellectually inferior, you may feel protective rather than attracted. Trying to satisfy your sexual needs with someone you consider “lesser” can feel exploitative or wrong, leading to inner conflict and even guilt. Relationships like this can resemble unhealthy patterns (such as incest or polygamy) and trigger feelings of shame or moral discomfort.
  • If the lover is not your intellectual equal, true connection suffers. A less intelligent partner cannot fully understand or appreciate you. If you’re the one with less intellectual capacity, you may not grasp the full depth of your partner either. Without that mutual understanding, defining each other clearly becomes impossible.
The few, rare great loves that blossom and last a lifetime only prove that there are exceptions to every rule.
 
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In The Polygamous Sex, Esther Vilar suggests that women are inherently monogamous because their care and sexual needs are fulfilled in separate ways: care through their children, and sexual satisfaction through
More obvious explanation: Polygamy = a broad having to vie with several others to get her needs and desires met. NO ONE(regardless of gender)is enthusiastic about a scenario where life is made more complicated than it already is, ergo polygamy is less appealing to heterosexual women than sitting through a 24hr Keeping Up With The Kardashians marathon is to most men

For all the commendable work Vilar did back in the day, she was also a precursor to the rabid overthinking that would eventually characterize The Manosphere
 

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This realization came to me during my University days. I went to College in Illinois and lived on campus. I would play up the i'm from Minnesota angle to sound "exotic" (LOL I have family in IL), i'd meet girls in class or parties etc. Was during pillow talk the most interesting conversations would happen and the truth would come out. If I had my way & there were no repercussions (crazies, accidental pregnancies etc), every attractive girl I came across I would've gotten with (just like every man). Talking with the girls I realized this wasn't necessarily the case with them. They love and want sex but genuinely seemed with more of a narrow pool of guys. They don't want to be prostitutes per say but don't mind being prostitutes for the guys they really like.
 

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Vilar’s book is full of contradictions


“If my lover leaves me, I’m left with a sudden, acute loss of definition, a state of total freedom to which I can only respond, if it truly was great love, that is, an absolute definition of body and soul, with apathy, despair, madness, or suicide; in other words, existential anguish.
Love sickness, often joked about, might actually be the greatest disaster that can happen to a person: it is the most intense experience of freedom the world has to offer.”

So, Vilar describes a kind of oneitis, or more precisely, that the lack of boundaries and external structure creates an overwhelming freedom.
This is why people seek rulers for their own freedom.
And it’s from this idea that she then writes the following:



“True love between a man and a woman is monogamous, jealous, and faithful.
Jealousy is not necessarily a sign of love, but there can be no love without jealousy.
Tolerance is not a sign of love, in fact, it’s the opposite.

Someone who is willing to share their lover with someone else is clearly saying they are not interested in them as a sexual partner; what they feel is, at best, altruistic love or friendship, "tolerance."
The so-called ‘open marriage,’ which allows a partner to have another sexual partner, is not based on love, but on friendship.
Sexual relations in an ‘open marriage’ are acts of mutual service between friends and have nothing to do with love.”

Thus, Vilar seems to argue that for a man to be happy, he should not seek “true love,” but instead altruistic love version of it, therefore adopting a polygamous stance.
She is not saying that true love makes a man happy; rather, that it certainly makes a woman happy.



“Sexual infidelity is only possible when I no longer value the definitions my partner holds of me, when I no longer love them. If I am unfaithful to a partner I still love, I must confess everything to them afterwards.
No matter how painful it is, it’s the only way I can recover my precise definition through them.”

Here, Vilar takes for granted that a partner in love, specifically, a man, will accept cheating, and disrespect and remain in the relationship because he’s in love.
Many of us have been in this situation, and there is no room for tolerance in such cases.



“Love between a man and a woman can last a lifetime.
There is no valid reason why a couple who fell in love at seventeen shouldn’t still love each other at seventy.
The reason this kind of love is rare is partly due to the mistaken belief that sexual love is a form of altruistic love, and partly due to the lack of suitable partners.”

Again, a contradiction. If Vilar says that, for a man to be fully happy in life, two needs must be satisfied, the first being the need to care for someone or to be a father, and the second being the sexual need (not with the one he is caring for), then it follows that a man cannot experience true love, and only women can.


But again, Vilar has mentioned so many good points! Love to hear more from you guys!
 

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Thus, Vilar seems to argue that for a man to be happy, he should not seek “true love..."




But again, Vilar has mentioned so many good points! Love to hear more from you guys!
"TL" is the creation of paper book novels in The 19th Century, and Disney movies in The 20th. EITHER gender pursuing such a thing has proven to be a noxious habit, the effects of which our entire civilization is still reeling from today
 

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