"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Women doesnt show up, ignore her?

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So this kinda slutty chick I see where I work has been all suggestive and asking me out for drinks. Its always when Im working she asks this though so I cant join her. I call her up the other day and she says shes near me so I tell her to come by and get in the hottub with me, she says cool. Doesn't end up showing and no call. Now I know she'll be around again to try to get attention so what do I do? Act like I forgot about the whole thing or do I tell her to **** off? I would still bang her but only if she intiates it as I'm not going to.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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1) wrong forum
2) tell her she owes you big time for flaking. and make it clear that your time is too valuable for people like her who flake.
 

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Originally posted by Pure Drive +
1) wrong forum
2) tell her she owes you big time for flaking. and make it clear that your time is too valuable for people like her who flake.
You you're right, thought I was in "discussion".

See I thought about telling her she was a flake (which is ironic cos she was just telling me she hates flaky people, must be some freudian slip). But that would mean that I had to show her that she got to me which I don't think is the right way to go.

Prolly going to go with SG here but thanks for the reply.

Thanks to this site though I actually feel good about nexting her. It's not a failure just a learning experience that gets me one step further.

On a side note saw a chick at a bar tonight that started convo with me. I did a little back but was chillin with my friend so didnt pursue. Next thing I know some guy is talking to her (didnt seem like he had much game) yet he walked out with her. She was about an HB7.5. Taught be to be more on my feet for next time.
 

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Doesn't matter if you're starting out or a full blown DJ. That sort of disrespect should never be rewarded -- another chance, forgiveness, nothing.

Simple?
 

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waste of time

in my opinion lads if a girl hasn`t got the time to stick to her word then why should we keep chasing thinking somethings going to happen when deep down we know it going no where.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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medjaun

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She's only a 6.5 at best anyways so it's not even worth it. Funny how some of the uglier girls are the ones that play these games.
 

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I'm not so quick about just completely dropping a girl when things like this happen. How is your prior rapport and would this be your first casual encounter? Perhaps she considered your invitation to your hottub as basically an invitation to come over and have crazy monkey style sex for 3hrs. Since it wasn't a planned event and a last minute invitation she may have had second thoughts on it once she hung up.

Dont get me wrong flaking is a terrible thing to condone but if all you are chasing here is tail I think you could still get it. Put her on the back burner or as a side project that you really dont care about. She could still give you good practice if nothing else. I would act aloof, but chances are that she will bring this up in the future.
 

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So it began with her chasing you, that means you were a great challenge, then you call her one day and say come get in the hottub with me............

uh......hehe.......hehe......why do you think she should get in the hottub with you? Are you a don juan? Have you evolved into one....


This is how you should have handled this....kid....alright

She offers to buy you drinks, say damn hoe dont you see I am working! (you know, in a humorous tone) then offer a day where you will be hanging out somewhere and drinks will be there and tell her to come buy you drinks then.....end of conversation.

Too many times, men get womens phone numbers.....before setting up a date or a meeting, and then when they call, the girl flakes out, and the guy is like....what the hell!

Reason being, because don juans take what they want. You want her right? Okay, when you got her number, it should have been AFTER you got HER to agree to your date idea. Phone numbers are no different than knowing where a girl works or what kind of car she drives, they mean NOTHING.

To answer your question when you see her, make sure you explain to her how you have been having so much fun with other women lately! She only sees you as an AFC kid. Evolve into a don juan, read my thread, The Truth: The End, it will help you. You got me.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Let me get into a little more detail, maybe it will help.

Shes in my class (im a teacher), I dont talk to her all month, then at the end she gives me a note with her email. I'm married at the time so don't contact her. She then starts to visit me (along with some other guys there) and keeps bugging me to get a drink. Then she realizes I'm married but continues while I still turn her down. After a while I dont see her (for about a month). Then I split with my wife so I finally email her and she writes back and gives me her number and tells me to meet her at this club. I go but shes at another club (hitting on the female bartender). My friends say she came to see if I was there but left, maybe thinking I wasn't coming. She texts me but I dont have cell on me.

So a little times goes by, she comes by to see me a few times and then one nite I just decide to call her which is what I was describing in my original post.

She's been pretty suggestive, even coming to see me on her birthday dressed in shoes that she said "you keep on while you have sex". She also has a rep now for being pretty suggestive with other people.

Anyways I don't care much about this chick, mainly using her for practice. Guess I'll see how ignoring her for a while works although she is starting to turn me off by her other actions.
 
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Originally posted by medjaun
Let me get into a little more detail, maybe it will help.

Shes in my class (im a teacher)...
You are not a high school teacher. are you?:rolleyes:

Hey man don't sweat it, you just talked to her like the hor that she is - you did nothing wrong!

Hors are not to be chased, they are only to be found!!!

Don't initiate contact!
 

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No I'm a college teacher of course, hehe.
(And I think shes like 25 anyways, I'm 31)

I agree with your view though, she's basically throwing herself out there and I just called her on it. Maybe she's just an AW.
 
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Be careful, there is a school policy that states you are not suppose to date your students (for obvoius reasons) - she may want a good grade or say you gave her a bad grade because she didn't give you any play!

Don't do this!
 

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Yea I'm well aware of that. She's not in my class anymore (they only last a month). People hook up here all the time though, not a huge deal.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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