ChristopherColumbus
Master Don Juan
This should not be surprising when you take the role of culture into account. Women were generally marriageable back then... now, thanks to our anti-culture, they are not.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Women discuss hypergamy as a normal dating strategy, but also that it has consequences
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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When you think about it, what does this custom say? Basically that women are children and are not responsible for their own well being. You have to get approval from the father or other guardian so that they can "pass on" the care of the woman from themselves to you. I wonder how feminists feel about it?
Maybe this is why it isn't quite as common as it used to be, but guys will still do it so they can show off lol.
I think women like to see this because it's part of the tradition of the wedding celebration (which they love), and because it's almost like a sh!t test for the guy: Will he have the nerve to stand up to the former "alpha male" in her life, her father, and ask for her hand?
If I had to narrow it down to just one factor, I'd say The Pill.