"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Women didn't want a relatonship with me- can I date her friend?

The Grue

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Hello!

I am not by any stretch a Don Juan, but I hope to improve... Here is my problem

I dated a lady, Madelyn(33) about 5-6 times last June.
Things didn't work out between us; she said she was not in the right "phase" for a relationship. I took this as meaning she was not into me and stopped seeing each other.
There was no sex, we hadn't even kissed. I had tried to press the matter, but she was adamant.
Madelyn was damaged goods. I found out she has caught her hubby with her maid of honor doing it on her wedding day(incredible story but true!).
Anyway, we kept in touch, but I dated other women and I assume Madelyn did the same.

She calls on New Year's to say hello then invites me to Sunday brunch at her place. I didn't understand why, but it seems she wanted us to be "friends" at lest. No problem.

While there, I meet her best friend, Sue(30), who is very attractive. We had been looking at each other intently before I introduced myself(Madelyn didn't actually introduce me...)

Sue says she knows all about me, and I invite her, Madelyn and few of Madelyn's friends to a party I was throwing on January 31st.

Next few days, I call Sue for Madelyn's number. No problem there either.

I call up Madelyn and she seems glad to hear me, demure even.
She says she will come.

On the day of the party, Madelyn cancels at the last minute(with a text message - says she is ill) and Sue never shows up(no text message - nothing).
I believe Sue was planning on coming with Madelyn and the cancellation on Madelyn's part ruined things.

Problem is I like Sue and I am not sure how to proceed.

I THINK

1.Sue may just not be interested in me.
or
2.Sue may be interested but is contemplating her friendship with Madelyn.
3.Madelyn may have told Sue something derogatory about me. I was a gentleman though!

My view is that Madelyn should be fine with me dating her friend Sue.
After all, she didn't want to pursue a relationship with me but maybe her friend does?
What's the problem in that?
But maybe I am not thinking like a woman...

I am considering calling Sue up, and just meeting up for coffee this week.

The way I see it, if she accepts, she is open and I can proceed.

Or should I just forget her and move on....

I would appreciate yours thoughts,

Thanks,
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Kal0051

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Yeah, give her a call. If she doesn't agree to meet up or flakes then take that as she's not interested (it doesn't matter why she's not interested).
 

ZenGodMod

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What made you think its not okay to date a friend of a women which didn't work out?

Only thing I wondering is what does Sue know about you from her friend. Better make it clear to Sue.
 

iambrian81

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Madelyn have zero interest in you so the only problem right now is wether sue is interested. Go for it...it either work or it doesnt.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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