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My female cousin just told me she married this average looking dude because she felt that he would never cheat on her she is a solid 7.

Her own words ''the better looking guys could leave you for another woman too as they too have more options just like good looking women, I had to date down to feel more secure''

Although she claimed it wasn't cuz of insecuritys she just said ''its just how the game is''

I was blown away at how knowledgeable she understood game etc

And apparently she told me that a couple of her girlfriends have done this to
So fellas woman date down too or they go for the beta when it comes settling down its not just us ... Damn smh
 

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Why do you think they call it "settling down"???
 

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Just because she calls it "dating down" doesn't mean she really is. She's looking for commitment. She's dating on her own level of (declining) SMV. She calls it dating down because she (wrongfully) thinks she can still get the same commitment from higher value men as in her early 20s.
 

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Some people settle. And that sucks for them that they do so. If I ever marry, it wont be with someone I think I can do better than. And I dont want my woman thinking that of me either.

Oh wells, some people are just desperate to have someone.
 

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Jaylan said:
And I dont want my woman thinking that of me either.
^This.

I honestly don't see how a relationship can last if one of the parties truly believes that they married someone "beneath" them.

Unless it's just chick logic as a reason to why they're not marrying Prince Charming. They "could have" but wisely decided not to marry the man of their dreams.





I think I'm getting jaded.
 

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Alpha hits, beta commits.

Alpha fux, beta bux.

Alpha lays, beta pays.

Men value love and women love value.

Case closed.
 

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Danger said:
It always amuses me how many women find "the one" when they turn 30. Talk about convenient.
Precisely, the same with groups of friends marrying at the same time (due to peer "pressure"). No wonder that most marriages end up in divorces. In your early twenties, you are at the peak of your looks and people feel powerful because of that. It's not that you are significantly more mature at late twenties or early thirties, it is because you have a quarter life crisis and you feel "too old" and afraid to end up alone. That is especially true of women, for instance in my facebook 99% of girls after 25, have their age hidden...

That's why I don't see any romance in marriage....
 

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Danger said:
The story of pretty much every woman out there who rides the carousel through her early 20's. It always amuses me how many women find "the one" when they turn 30. Talk about convenient.
Just saw this happen to a mutual friend. She's been "looking for a guy forever" aka banging alphas (and recently a guy who was 21). Now she's 30 and she met someone who she thinks she "could marry". Wut..
 

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I've never quite gotten this "Women settle when they turn 30" thing. Most women are married well before they hit 30.

Anyway, PUAs always want to look at the world in the most sinister way possible. Maybe the girls simply finally figure out where they fit on the SMV scale and pick someone out accordingly. I've heard guys say that women are not that smart, and that they aren't capable of learning like that, but that seems a little silly to me.

Are they settling? Well, maybe they'd rather have George Clooney, but not every woman can have George Clooney. I'd call it realistic. I'd like to bang Scarlett Johansson with her hair dyed red, but I don't see that happening any time soon. Unless maybe I can get bigneil to arrange it for me, lol.
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Danger said:
I am not sure which area you live in and it could be different for your location, although I recall having this discussion before.

I live in the Northeast US and women here tend to get married between 28-32 on average. I see it over and over again. Are there exceptions? Of course, but if I look at the average, probably most specifically the Mode, it always seems to be 30.
Yeah, we've discussed this before. I'm in the midwest and women marry earlier here than in the northeast. Still, most women are married by the time they're 30. Here's a link showing the median ages by state. Check out Idaho and Utah, 23! That seems young now, but time was when that would have been considered old.

This study is from 2005-2009 though, I'm sure it's creeped up a bit since then. The age people are getting married has been steadily rising.

1. Idaho: 23.2

2. Utah: 23.3

3. Wyoming: 24.2

4. Arkansas: 24.3

5. Oklahoma: 24.4

6. Kentucky: 24.8

7. West Virginia: 25.0

8. Kansas: 25.0

9. Tennessee: 25.2

10. Texas: 25.2

11. Alaska: 25.2

12. North Dakota: 25.3

13. Alabama: 25.3

14. Iowa: 25.4

15. Nebraska: 25.4

16. Missouri: 25.6

17. Nevada: 25.6

18. South Dakota: 25.6

19. North Carolina: 25.7

20. Montana: 25.7

21. Colorado: 25.7

22. Indiana: 25.7

23. Mississippi: 25.8

24. Arizona: 25.8

25. New Mexico: 25.8

26. Louisiana: 25.9

27. Washington: 25.9

28. Georgia: 25.9

29. Oregon: 26.0

30. Minnesota: 26.3

31. Wisconsin: 26.3

32. Ohio: 26.3

33. Maine: 26.4

34. South Carolina: 26.4

35. Florida: 26.4

36. Michigan: 26.4

37: Virginia: 26.4

38: Puerto Rico: 26.5

39. Delaware: 26.6

40. New Hampshire: 26.8

41. California: 26.8

42. Hawaii: 26.9

43. Vermont: 26.9

44. Illinois: 27.0

45. Pennsylvania: 27.1

46. Maryland: 27.3

47. Connecticut: 27.6

48. New Jersey: 27.7

49. Rhode Island: 28.2

50. New York: 28.4

51. Massachusetts: 28.5

52. District of Columbia: 29.7
http://www.livescience.com/27974-women-media-age-marriage-states.html
 

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Danger said:
Most women in their 30's or late 20's who get married are "dating down", at least in their own mind they are.

They tried their damnedest to get a higher value mate in their 20's and finally give up when they feel the panic slowly approaching.

The reason they feel it is "dating down" is because they still have not come to terms yet with Sex not equaling commitment. Since some hotter or higher value men have sexed her up, she thinks she deserves or is high enough value to get commitment from them.

When the time really starts ticking she then is forced to "settle" with someone beneath her value.

The story of pretty much every woman out there who rides the carousel through her early 20's. It always amuses me how many women find "the one" when they turn 30. Talk about convenient.
Come on Danger, its all to protect themselves. A woman is never going to say "I settled" when she is 30, she is going to say whatever makes her look good.

The value of woman companionship is so high now, that women can afford that settle at 30 or even later. And since men are so desperate right now to get married they don't care if the women settles up, down, or sideways. It is good for their image to be married.

On the other hand, I personally think no woman falls in love, they are just forced to be with the same companion day and day out because their SMV decreases by the day. You ever seen "Eyes Wide Shut"? Nicole Kidman said she would give it all up: marriage, kids, stability, etc, for one night of sex with a hot alpha male.
 

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I believe this is one of the "pretty lies" roissy refers to.

Pretty good way to ego save, saying she dated down to find someone stables, instead of acknoledging that's the best she could reasonably lasso in long term.
 

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Danger said:
The value of women companionship is high now mainly for Betas with no options. And the value of marriage itself for "looking good" is disappearing completely from our culture.
:up: quote made my day.
 

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Love this thread! It does bother me that a lot of girls think because they got attention/fvkced a hot alpha male dude, that she is on his level and would be able to keep him long-term. Then they often scoff at guys who have the same equivalent value as them with the false perception that she "could do better".

Additionally, since women age faster then men, their stock drops quickly whereas a man's value peaks, on average, at around 30. But a girl who is 30 will still have the same belief that she can date guys that are above her cause she hasn't adjusted to the fact that her value has lowered.
 

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Women perceive 70-80% of men are below average in looks, so is it any wonder they feel they are dating down, even when they may actually be dating up? As others have said, a woman defines her SMV as the hottest, richest guy who ever f-ed her in her life. To add to that, she also factors in the "best catch" in terms of looks, money, intelligence, that any of her GFs ever married.

Remember we aren't dealing with engineers, statisticians and logicians here.
 

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dasein said:
Women perceive 70-80% of men are below average in looks, so is it any wonder they feel they are dating down, even when they may actually be dating up? As others have said, a woman defines her SMV as the hottest, richest guy who ever f-ed her in her life. To add to that, she also factors in the "best catch" in terms of looks, money, intelligence, that any of her GFs ever married.

Remember we aren't dealing with engineers, statisticians and logicians here.
Doesn't even have to be someone who f*cked them. It can just be someone they know of or someone who showed them a little attention. For example I'd be embarrassed to be seen romantically in public with this girl who wants me to come over, but she thinks that because I'm willing to let her svck my d!ck (when I'm unbearably horny that is, don't want anything to do with her otherwise) that she can get me. She herself even told me she wasn't going to do anything with the other guys, because they wouldn't do next to me - even though I told her I won't commit she still thinks I'm in her reach. Don't underestimate the capacity for girls to be ignorant and delude themselves.

That's one funny study btw, because those kinds of facts are the last things you'll find anyone bringing up. Males because it's just asking to be shamed by women, women because it doesn't fit into their disney delusions.
 
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