Women at the Office

[NileWaters]

Hello fellow men in need and those without. Long time reader first time poster here.

I decided to make this thread in order to give and get advice about dealing with women in the workplace. Let's kick it off.
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How do you deal with a female coworker or superior who makes patronizing comments directed at you?

Ex: (Said in a grandiose tone) "I suggest you think about what you say before you say it"

 

[NileWaters]

P.S. I work in an office with three women.

 

[( . )( . )]

Your answer is in there, about half way down, there's more in the actual article. This is just from one of the comments.

Excellent advice, sir. I will forward this link to ForbesWoman.

Women are notorious at office flirting. Partly due to boredom of being in the Encorpera cage and partly as an attempt to gain power over you. Ignore them with impunity. Do not date co-workers ever, or even look at them. If you followed the advice here on partner dancing you will have contact with many hot babes who make your office co-workers look like fat, hairy cows. Looking at office females is for men trapped in marriage. Not to mention that those office flirts have beta-men who think they are an "item" and will try to kneecap you if they find out she is putting the flirt moves on you.

Keep your female liasons outside your job where there is no employment cost to being scorned and ridiculed by females, or fallout from dumping them.

When you go to the office "pool party" and see your co-workers in bathing suits you will realize how atrocious they really are and how much time and energy they put into looking good at the office, while acting like they don't care about their looks or that they are victims of a corporate culture of harassment. Office female wear push-up bras and low-cut tops to try to control you and the situation with their saggy tits. You of course can get accused of sexual harassment if your eyes happen to be pointed in their direction, or run the risk of getting them enraged if you ignore their tits.

You don't have friends at work. You can associate with them long after you have left the company but while you are there they are not your friends. Respected associates, ok. You could sit next to a guy for 30 years and the minute you get laid off he will act like he doesn't know you. Make your friends and social network outside of your job.

You have a dull life. You don't do anything exciting or interesting. You have no political opinions. Diversity is your god. You eschew white male privilege and think women are better leaders.

You do not mention your recent trip abroad. Tell you office mates you spent your vacation in Dayton, Ohio visiting your aging parents.

I agree 100% about Facebook and LinkedIn.

Just LinkOut. Aesop said "he who has many friends has no friends". Very appropriate advice for the modern age. Years after you get canned, co-workers who hated you and tried to destroy you will ask to join your LinkedIn network, now that they too are out of a job.

Here's another item for your list : Never keep more crap in your cube than it takes to throw in a bag and walk out in 30 seconds.

"All hands meetings" provide no useful information. Skip out if you can get away with it.

Take advantage of any educational opportunities or 401K contributions. However, keep your educational goals to yourself. Let them know you hou have no higher aspirations in life than getting a comfortable office chair.

If the HR lady sees you in public with an attractive woman, you may be in for some silent office rudeness or a secret campaign to smear you.

Do not ever be alone in a room with a female.

Appear to be helpful to office females but in fact do not help female co-workers ever. Build relationships with talented men and help out decent men. No woman can or will ever help you.

And another : Learn Employment Game. Learn salesmanship, for this important reason : He who brings money into the organization can do whatever the **** he wants. It's like being in the mob; if you are an earner you have complete freedom. The minute you stop earning you get concrete shoes. Adopt this lifestyle.- Uncle Elmer

http://www.returnofkings.com/2710/8-essential-rules-to-surviving-the-workplace

And if you really want to go further down the rabbit hole:

Women are competing for jobs but are not creating them. Other than providing a mass market for their vanity products, they are not forging new industries or technologies. They are marginalizing that small percentage of men who passionately innovate, destroy, and create ideas and take the risks to drive them to actualization

Though men shank me and insult me, only men provide me with opportunity. Women can only insult me and deprive me of opportunity. Only men, and only a small fraction of them, take the risks that create industry and opportunity. Women can only serve as mere functionaries in man-created structures. When an organization becomes feminized, priority shifts from efficient and profitable production of goods and services to development of labarynthine rules for the comfort and security of women. Ossification and organizational death are inevitable.- Uncle Elmer

 

[Desdinova]

Tittyboy, excellent post!

There's one thing that I usually try to do with the women in the office: make them attracted to me but never date them. When they're attracted to me, I fully benefit from how soft-hearted they are over me.

Office female wear push-up bras and low-cut tops to try to control you and the situation with their saggy tits. You of course can get accused of sexual harassment if your eyes happen to be pointed in their direction, or run the risk of getting them enraged if you ignore their tits.

I usually try to push in the opposite direction of sexual harassment by using negs. A few weeks ago, the new female administrator showed up in a top that covered nothing but her breasts. Her back was completely bare. I walked into her office, looked at her, and shouted in disgust, "OH MY GOD! You're almost naked!" To pull this off, you need the correct voice tone and facial expressions to display how offended you are. I think I also commented on how inappropriate it was for the workplace.

She hasn't worn the top since. She has also been much more kind and attentive towards me. Imagine my surprise when she texted me on my work phone and asked how my day was going. I thought she wanted to add more work onto my pile, but no, she was apparently just curious.

 

[evan12]

How do you deal with a female coworker or superior who makes patronizing comments directed at you?

can you tell us your opinions first ?

 

[evan12]

@( . )( . ): good post even though it is a little extreme, but it is good if you want to play it 100% safe.

 

[zekko]

I disagree with this quote from the article that Tits posted:

Appear to be helpful to office females but in fact do not help female co-workers ever. Build relationships with talented men and help out decent men. No woman can or will ever help you.

Sometimes I wonder what 1950s office a lot of the guys here work at. I say this because I have certainly benefited from and been helped by certain female co-workers at times. A few caveats: These aren't usually the girls that you want to date. And they have to be in a position to help you, or later get into a position to help you.

 

[sodbuster]

it depends on the woman. I have a friend that runs a business. HOT, but I see her more as a guy with boobs. She has a mans personality for the most part, don't see much feminine in her.... She could work for me any day. but some of the bored housewives....

 

[Warrior74]

How do you deal with a female coworker or superior who makes patronizing comments directed at you?

Ex: (Said in a grandiose tone) "I suggest you think about what you say before you say it"

Coworker :
Option 1. No response.
Option 2. Amused mastery. *condescending chuckle*

Supervisor :
Option 1. Yes ma'am. *start doing better according to how the boss sees it*
Option 2. Yes ma'am. *start looking for a new job asap*

These are the same ways I would treat a male coworker or supervisor. Don't be stupid, jobs are for money, not for gender politics.

 

[Colossus]

Being in healthcare I work in a very female-saturated environment. I've struggled with dealing with disrespect from female superiors and coworkers, and you have to beat them at their own game if you want to keep your job and still have some social frame at work.

1.Agree and Amplify
One of the best ways to deal with cvnty comments from females at work. Example: "You need to become more of a morning person. It's really starting to annoy the rest of the world."
Response: "You know what, you're right. I've always admired how you can come in here everyday so full of life and kick ass. What's your secret? Do you get lots of sleep?"

By redirecting the insult into praise on them, you disarm their sarcasm somewhat and soften their negativity towards you. Of course, you don't mean a single word of it. But the key is to LOOK like you really mean it. Give a sincere delivery.

Now, if it's OVERT disrespect, by all means stand up for yourself. But for day-to-day *****y sarcasm, give something so subtly condescending back they have to take it as a compliment.

2.Selective Patronizing
Complimenting women at work can work wonders. The key is you have to be selective about it. You cant just go around kissing ass willy-nilly. Note people's strengths and weaknesses, and deliver an expertly timed compliment when they need it most. Even a random "wow Pam I love that dress" can put you in positive light in a girl's mind, for a while. They'll make your job easier and even give you dirt on other employees.

3.Make sure you are beyond reproach
This is probably the #1 rule for male job security, next to earning the company money. Your side of the street must be CLEAN. Squeaky clean. Dont show up late, dont call in sick unless absolutely necessary, dont break the rules and leave evidence, dont insult other coworkers, dont rock the boat in a bad way, and always leave a trail of evidence of your productivity. There should be NOTHING they could potentially nail you with if they wanted to.

4.Make "friends", but only to grease the wheels of your workflow
Understand that even the best of your work "friends" will turn on you in a second if it means protecting their job. Doubly for women. Make nice with people, be friendly, make jokes, talk about the football games. But dont think some perceived "friendship" is going to insulate you from losing your job.

5.EARN.
Depending on what kind of job you have, of course. For me, every patient I see gets billed and earmarked as Colossus' work. At the end of each month they tally my total production. Bottom line is, if you are bringing in significantly more than they are paying you, you are an asset to them. And as an asset you can get away with much more, and even get special treatment.

6. Never, EVER think you are above losing your job.
Always be at least somewhat concerned you may get fired. Most jobs are at-will, and they can fire your ass with or without a cogent reason. As soon as you start to think you aren't expendable, you are treading on thin ice.

 

[GS750]

I generally don't associate with co workers outside of work. I've never been to a workplace holiday party in my life, don't plan on it. I DO NOT date women at my workplace. I don't discuss politics or religion with coworkers. Oh and I don't have a facebook or LinkedIn account. I show up on time. I do my job. I don't complain. I get the hell out of there when my shift is over. If someone asks me a question about my personal life I give a vague answer. Keep your personal life and your job completely separated. An do not date women at the office.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Looking at office females is for men trapped in marriage. Not to mention that those office flirts have beta-men who think they are an "item" and will try to kneecap you if they find out she is putting the flirt moves on you.

Yes and YES!

I question why every office has women in leadership and men who defer to women but seek out managerial positions over other men to enforce women's feminist values. I have never met a man's man in a leadership position, it's always some woman WTF?

 

[origin138]

3.Make sure you are beyond reproach
This is probably the #1 rule for male job security, next to earning the company money. Your side of the street must be CLEAN. Squeaky clean. Dont show up late, dont call in sick unless absolutely necessary, dont break the rules and leave evidence, dont insult other coworkers, don't rock the boat in a bad way, and always leave a trail of evidence of your productivity. There should be NOTHING they could potentially nail you with if they wanted to.

Lots of truth in this quote. I've personally lost 2 jobs due to vindictive females using dirt against me. I wasn't above reproach, and that was my fault for not doing my homework on these women and covering my a$$ to the letter.

Now that I run my own company, I avoid hiring females as much as possible, but not for reasons you might think. It has nothing to do with intellect, capacity or work ethic. In fact, I find many women exceptionally bright, talented and hardworking and I enjoy the "out of the box" approach many of them bring to the table.

It has everything to do with the current state of the workplace. It's too much drama, and as a brand new business owner, I can't risk it. From personal experience, I've witnessed far too many "modern women" use dirt against men (and other women) in destructive ways when things didn't go their way. They pulled punches that no man ever would just to get their way, and reluctant employers bowed to it. A few bad apples can cause problems for the good ones, and that's unfortunate, and until things change, I'll stick to hiring modern beta men. They work hard, keep their heads down, are eager to please, and produce quality work.

Women outside the work place are great. Inside, far too many conflicts of interest exist and you have to play the politics game flawlessly and "be liked" or you'll find yourself job hunting. No thanks, conforming to those norms is like eating glass for me.

 

[sharkbeat]

The only thing female coworkers good for is for office politics. Befriend them, and they shall tell you all the gossips that's going on in the office. Don't get involved, but it's always good to know what's going on in your office.

 

[Warrior74]

The only thing female coworkers good for is for office politics. Befriend them, and they shall tell you all the gossips that's going on in the office. Don't get involved, but it's always good to know what's going on in your office.

This. Today i found out the top sales person will steal leads from the newer sales people and take their clients. Also that she is sleeping with her top client. Good to know? Yes. How does it help me? I make sure she doesn't know that I run an advertising business on the side. She'll surely try to either a. steal my clients or b. snitch me out to the higher ups. Also I know not to tell anything important to the girl who told me. All the sales people are a bunch of gossipy backstabbing women.

 

[GS750]

Don't kid yourself, there's gossipy backstabbing guys too haha

 

[Colossus]

I remember I had a supervisor in my pre-grad research job who was a lesbian. She was very high up in the department. Super liberal by all accounts, but I liked her, and she liked me. I never kissed as$, I just listened to her talk about BS in the department and made her laugh. Plus I found out through a friend she thought I was super hot, lol. Anyways, that really streamlined my experience there. I always tried to preserve that relationship.

I've had other female managers though, at petty jobs, who found something to dislike about me and never really let it go. I've been fired under false pretexts. With male managers, they can definitely be bigger d!cks (esp. in labor jobs), but usually when they fire people it's for legit reasons, i.e. they suck at the job or their attitude sucks.