"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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On the subject of women at the mall in groups or in pairs. What are some good lines for approaching/ meeting them/getting their number?
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Same as any street sarge or anywhere else, it still applies.
 
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i just started a job at the mall near my house. Im not the most experience guy in the world but i have done a few approaches at the mall cause its the best place ive found to meet single girls.

Heres what i do: i first and foremost go to look for somthing i.e. i have a reason for going to the mall. then if i see a girl who i think id like, try to make eye contact and if you get a smile or solid eye contact back, youre in, go over start the conversation and make your intentions clear. I've noticed that alot of times girls are there to meet guys too, and somtimes they will actually follow you around a bit.
For instance earlier this summer i had a full arm cast (which girls love) and i saw 2 girls ahead of me, who from the back looked good, so i tried to catch up to them. Well they went into a store and I got distracted by a sports store nearby and started looking at tickets to concerts and then at hats. No more than a minute and a half passed before they both walked in and stood basically right next to me. The hotter one says really loud
"I hope they have white sox hats here" to which i was like "im sure they do its a sports store" in a really smart ass tone. After a little pause the other one was like "OHHH can i sign your cast?!" which was amazing cause I had been joking with my friends all week that I would only let a girl sign my cast if she put her number so i pulled out the "Only if you put your numbers" in the smoothest tone i have. They both oblidged and asked for a marker, i told them theyd have to go find one which they did and I got 2 numbers out of the deal. It was obvious they were attracted to me, which helps a ton at the beggining.

The other and most fun way I do this is to go to the mall with a couple buds (a group of 3 or more) and make it a game. My friends and I made our game out of it like this:
Basically you rotate and the other members of the group pick a girl for one guy. He can veto it if shes too young/old/ugly within reason but once a girl is selected he has to approach her. We then take points. If he makes contact he gets 3 points. If he continues to hold a conversation he gets another 2 points. If he gets any kino in its another point and if he gets a number he gets 5 more. Every 10 points one guy gets, everyone else in the group has to take a shot later that night. If you chicken out, you automatically get a shot. (my friends and I dont drink so we do shots of syrup because well nobody wants to down syrup :D)

But basically its just like Distant Light said, theres nothing much special about it than other approaches. The biggest problem I had was I made a huge deal about approaching (and still kinda do, like I said im no Pro). As for lines, I cant help you whole lot with that. Personally I would only use canned lines as a crutch, otherwise you'll become dependent on them and never grow. Look for context thing you can use. For instance if a girl is with her mom, wait until shes a good deal away from mommy and walk over and say "aww thats sooo cute that your mom still picks out you clothes!" (always always ALWAYS jokingly) That will break the ice immediately especially because most girls pride themselves with their sense of fashion. If you want, PM me with every situation you can think of that you commonly see girls at in the mall and I can try to help you come up with ice breakers for them.
Good luck bro!
 

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Thanks Indifference Kills. Great post. That's the most helpful advice i've gotten on this forum yet
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah. Your first goal is to stop them walking. Asking a simple question such as "whats the time"...."do you know where X is?" ect will stop her, then you move into your game.
 
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*bump* this forum just because ill be at the mall alot for the next week and ill share what works and doesnt later
everybody else should do the same!
 
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i think im going tomarrow so ill let you know how that goes, i also might have to work saturday.
 

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my friends and I are going to the mall saturday, what are introductions we could use, say shes walking by us or looking at something?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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definately start with girls looking in a store (its easier, less obtrusive) then you can ask for help with styles (your looking for a friend, yourself, relative this is just to get the conversation going) but you have to be genuinly interested in her. girls can see through fakeness really easily. If my mind goes blank for an ice breaker, i like to use a "does this make me look fat" with something i would never buy like a womens belt or tshirt. It normally gets a laugh and breaks the ice.
 

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borrow a retarded child...take the child with you...then talk to girl you want...girl can't refuse a boy and his retard. done deal.
 
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lol how much do those run now adays?
 
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