"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I'm not sure how many of you have read this but it brings up some interesting thoughts.....I came across it while reading other similar articles.

''Women are not actually attracted to men. There is a vague idea of what a man is physically, and some are better than others aesthetically speaking, but the purely physical appearance of a man is almost inconsequential unless he is horribly ugly or outrageously attractive.

Women are attracted to status, money, how much a man smiles and laughs, how many friends and resources a man has, how full a man's life is--how many "cool," "exciting" and prestigious things he is doing or connected to.

They are interested in how other people view him--how many people want to be around him, how other people interact with him and whether their interactions convey that he is special and amazing. They want him to be extremely outgoing and aggressive, they want him to demonstrate his status over other people by dominating them in various non-violent ways.

A woman's attraction to a man is a function of her jealousy at the thought of another woman having that man. She doesn't care who he actually is or EXACTLY what he looks like physically, she only cares about the VALUE of the life he has constructed around himself.

A woman basically is a greedy materialistic prostitute. Although that sounds vulgar, it's true. She trades her physical self to buy into the success a man has created for himself.

As a man, I fall in love with how a woman is physically. I fall in love with simple parts of a woman. Like the way her hair falls around her face, the line of her neck, her shoulders. They way her ears might peek from her hair. Her eyelashes. The size and shape of her hands, her fingernails. The way she walks, the way she looks when she is tired or annoyed, the sound she makes when she sneezes, coughs, or cries. The way she sits in a chair. The way she breathes while experiencing different emotions. The way her lips move. A million little things.

Sure, a huge part of my attraction is mental, but the powerful seed of love that builds within me and crystallizes is based greatly on visual things that set off torrents of emotion and need.

It seems to me that women almost cannot think for themselves. Their estimates of worth are based on other peoples' estimates of worth. They don't really find an object beautiful on their own. The object becomes beautiful when other people let her know that it is beautiful.

I'm completely unable to reconcile the differences between men and women. It seems like success with women is equal to spending half of your life working to create a giant illusion, something vastly tiring and annoying, while sacrificing your own true self and your own interests. We construct our lives around nest-building. We're like male birds building nests and showing them off to attract mates. It's pathetic. Everything we do is to get women. It is a ****ing **** deal.

Someone needs to invent a drug which has no hormonal imbalance side-effects but is able to erase a man's sex drive and attraction to women. It would increase productivity rates to incredible heights. I'd be free and happy. I'd feel complete. I'd be able to concentrate on my biochemistry studying''.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'm completely unable to reconcile the differences between men and women. It seems like success with women is equal to spending half of your life working to create a giant illusion, something vastly tiring and annoying, while sacrificing your own true self and your own interests. We construct our lives around nest-building. We're like male birds building nests and showing them off to attract mates. It's pathetic. Everything we do is to get women. It is a ****ing **** deal.

Someone needs to invent a drug which has no hormonal imbalance side-effects but is able to erase a man's sex drive and attraction to women. It would increase productivity rates to incredible heights. I'd be free and happy. I'd feel complete. I'd be able to concentrate on my biochemistry studying''.


I was reading it thinking about it until the end paragraphs.

This guy lost respect from me.

You dont need to pretend and lie about anything to get women, if you think you NEED to sacrifice your "True self," And your interests to get women then you have to get your priorities straight.

Then he makes it seem that if a drug came along that took away a mans sex drive that it would be PERFECT... and he would feel "Complete."

The guys pathetic and not doing anything about it makes it even more pathetic, but I bet he feels good now that women are probably commenting on him saying they ARENT like THAT.
 

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Tenzans said:
A woman basically is a greedy materialistic prostitute. Although that sounds vulgar, it's true. She trades her physical self to buy into the success a man has created for himself.
I stopped reading there. He obviously is seeing women from a negative viewpoint so cannot have a balanced view of them.
 

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I know tons of a guys who feel like this.....
hell I use to be one of them, there are a few that are different, chicks that is
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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slaog said:
I stopped reading there. He obviously is seeing women from a negative viewpoint so cannot have a balanced view of them.

You only find it negative because you have been successfully programmed to think the traits he correctly sees are negative. They are not negative they are rather incredibly successful and useful survival traits and thus positive. The words he used have a negative emotional loading but the concepts are valid.




A woman's attraction to a man is a function of her jealousy at the thought of another woman having that man.
This is one of the most insightful and pithy things I've ever read.
 

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bigjohnson said:
You only find it negative because you have been successfully programmed to think the traits he correctly sees are negative. They are not negative they are rather incredibly successful and useful survival traits and thus positive. The words he used have a negative emotional loading but the concepts are valid.
No I find it negative because he has a negative mindset. Having a positive mindset is a big part of being a DJ. I used to see things negatively because I was programmed that way but since I changed that I'm seeing the results.


I'm completely unable to reconcile the differences between men and women. It seems like success with women is equal to spending half of your life working to create a giant illusion, something vastly tiring and annoying, while sacrificing your own true self and your own interests.
If he had a more positive outlook he'd know it doesn't have to be like that. Thats the point I'm making.
 

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This is pretty much old news. Women aren't based on a guys looks like men are. Women are more about a guys personality!! Pretty much what the op said.
 

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slaog said:
If he had a more positive outlook he'd know it doesn't have to be like that. Thats the point I'm making.
Good point you make now, but that's not what you quoted before.




slaog said:
I stopped reading there. He obviously is seeing women from a negative viewpoint so cannot have a balanced view of them.
You said he saw women negatively and quoted his analysis of womens motives as support for your comment, which is a fundamentally different thing. I believe his understanding of women is essentially spot on, but I agree his solution is severely flawed.



I.A.F.Y.B. said:
This is pretty much old news. Women aren't based on a guys looks like men are. Women are more about a guys personality!! Pretty much what the op said.
If only it were so simple. Again I have to point to the magic quote:

Tenzans said:
A woman's attraction to a man is a function of her jealousy at the thought of another woman having that man.
So many factors outside 'personality' factor into this 'jealousy function' but in the end I think he nailed it pretty well.
 

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That's all subjective.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Tenzans you do know this is a crock of shyt don't you? Please say you didn't buy into this crap.

This is as bad as that woman hating post about women being evil that I saw on here. A total loser posted that crap because he is frustrated with his own fear of a tiny little 110lbs female.

I can only shake my head at what is happening to mankind these days.
 

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
This is pretty much old news. Women aren't based on a guys looks like men are. Women are more about a guys personality!! Pretty much what the op said.
Its pretty suprising how far looks can get you...

Anyway, that guys post is bs. Hes just pissy cause he cant get no tang.
 

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if this were true then how come nsync was such a hit or girls go crazy for johnny depp or brad pitt. They attracted the girls
 

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I know homeless guys that know how to make a woman feel special and loved. They don't have a "successful" career they make minimum wage, ride a bicycle, sleep in the woods and use a bucket as their toilet. Yet they have game and can "play" with a woman. And the ladies seem to want to be with these "broken" Don Juans. If this guy can just figure it out then it has nothing to do with material things but his inner game. Spirit first. All the rest like money, success, looks, and power are just icing on the cake it won't get her to love YOU.
 

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dice said:
if this were true then how come nsync was such a hit or girls go crazy for johnny depp or brad pitt. They attracted the girls
Those are successful, filthy-rich, famous, socially-powerful men.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I met few homeless guys who are really good ,NOT ALL
these guys have no fear ,nothing to loose
they talk to people everyday on streets,they are socially learnt

jacob said:
homeless guy.
 

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I don't think its an inherent "woman" problem, I think its a "spoiled/narcissistic-person-with-entitlement-issues" problem, which thanks to society, just happens to be most women.
 

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oakraiderz2 said:
Its pretty suprising how far looks can get you...

Anyway, that guys post is bs. Hes just pissy cause he cant get no tang.
Yes, looks can do wonders. But, having a HB 10 as a girlfriend who is a b!tch, annoying and whatever else that turns you off. That relationship won't last long. Same as women. They meet a good looking guy. But, turns out he is a afc and leaves him.

Women are attracted to personality more than looks. Guys are more for looks. That is just my opinion.

Oh great... Is this turning into another looks thread?
 
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