Maximus_Decimus
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Reading mASF, I came across an interesting response from Franco (a veteran who has accumulated a really good reputation there). One of his responses was, women are programmed to gain SOCIAL POWER. It was a very fascinating statement and upon intropsection, his response was entirely consistent with Hitori's basic principle that "Chicks act at all times to gain and maintain social status. This is more important to them than getting laid." (read Hitori's post:Social Status and Women Explained )
At this site, the term attention wh*re or AW is used quite extensively. It is used to describe some women who seek an extraordinary amount of attention. And then, I see numerous posts by guys where a woman was flirting with him (maybe she was even touching him), but then, she goes on to flirt with some other dude, and the guy will ask whether she was really interested in him, because she was flirting with him first, and why did she go off to flirt with the other dude, blah, blah, blah (or some variation of this). I can't count the number of times this has happened to me, or see my exs do it, but it's nice to finally see through some of their sh*t and understand where they are coming from.
Next time a chick flirts or kinos with you, just take it at face value and nothing more. Understand that it is natural for her to behave this way, to increase her circle of men that she has control over, thus increasing her social power:
Below is the entire response from Franco:
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>On 7/22/05 3:03:00 AM, fskrak wrote:
One of the basics of AFC thinking is to project male thinking into the woman and believe that she would behave like a man.
Men think logically in this way:
- Game on = I am out hunting to f*ck women.
- Game off = I am not out hunting and relax.
Now you fail to understand why this chick behaves like this because chicks are ALWAYS in the GAME ON MODE.
The reason they developed this skill of having game on mode all the time on is NEED FOR SURVIVAL. We have muscles and logic and they have to GAME US to survive.
What would you think if males would start suddenly to makeup and wear very thight trousers, maybe transparent with the purpose of showing balls and d*ck?
Well that is what woman have done for centuries! They are in relationships and get married but their game is all the time ON.
Women take lot of advantage from this because by having the game all the time ON like us PUAs they can "remote control" lot of people, just like experienced PUAs do.
So at this stage do like TD (Tyler Durden) says: why she is giving you an IOI (Indicator of Interest) does not matter. Women to that all the time and most of the man fail to detect it because women play a "smooth" game all the time which goes under the radar of most men.
My specific comments:
>Hi There,
>Recently I had a spike in the
>IOI from a chick that I know
>for about couple of months. I
>want to know what exactly I
>did for this to happen.
You are a man and she likes you. The IOI is a bait meant to control you. Women do this all the time but they are smarter than the average guy: they do IOIs but sex "just happens". They rarely go out "to have a great f*ck". This approach gives them the possibility of gaming a lot of guys at the same time.
I am
>trying to understand a woman’s
>mind. I strongly believe in
>what PlayerSupreme says that
>if you can control the mind,
>you can control the pvssy.
And he is right. Now I tell you how you can "remote control" back this chick.
(snipped)
>dancing. She is in her 20s.
>The relationship with her has
>been just of casual
>acquaintance.
Women can maintaint "dozens" of apparently innocent "casual acquaintances" on all the time while waiting for the good occasion. They are programmed to gain SOCIAL POWER.
>She is at
>beginner level (I am at
>intermediate) and we dance
>once in a while. She hangs out
>with a group of other guys who
>come there. Her IOI had been
>low.
She gives IOIs to several guys and "remote controls" all of them, including you.
If the scale is between 1
>to 10 with 1 being lowest and
>10 highest, her IOI was about
>2.
Ahahah, what male logic!
(snipped)
>The next day, I went to a club
>for dancing. I met one of my
>friends (male) and started
>talking to him. The chick,
>mentioned above, comes to me
>from nowhere and starts
>hugging me and kissing me on
>my cheek and starts talking to
>me as if my friend, who was
>standing in front of me, did
>not exist at all.
So social proofing herself with the other guy and using you as PIVOT at that single time.
So the circle of the man she has power on only increases without her having to even take panties off..
>She then
>wanted to dance with me.
And show it to the other guy.
>When
>she was leaving (about 12 AM)
>she came looking for me to say
>bye. She said that she is
>leaving and that she has to go
>see her boyfriend whom she had
>not seen in about 1 ½ months.
Read woman sub-communication: "I am horny and my borefriend did not give me d*ck for 1 1/2 month, maybe I am getting d*ck from somewhere else and I just wait for you either supplicate to me of f*ck me like a man. I will get power in both cases, no matter what"
>She said “Good nite, honey!”
>before she left. Again, I
>should remind you all that I
>used to hardly talk to her
>when I saw her in the club
>before.
So you were a challenge to her.
>I know this sudden spike in
>the IOI is because I made her
>feel good about her car
>purchase. But, what is not
>clear to me is the connection
>between making her feel good
>about her car purchase and her
>sudden increase of affection
>towards to me. I pushed some
>hot button in her. But I do
>not know which one. Can you
>explain what exactly happened
>here?
She is gaming you like all the other guys. I am right now doing the same to at least 3-4 chicks in my social circle without having to cheat on my wife even once. TD advice is very good: you simply isolate her and f*ck her. You take away all the power from her by doing that.
Franco
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You can find Franco's response at: http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?239611,8
Maximus_Decimus
At this site, the term attention wh*re or AW is used quite extensively. It is used to describe some women who seek an extraordinary amount of attention. And then, I see numerous posts by guys where a woman was flirting with him (maybe she was even touching him), but then, she goes on to flirt with some other dude, and the guy will ask whether she was really interested in him, because she was flirting with him first, and why did she go off to flirt with the other dude, blah, blah, blah (or some variation of this). I can't count the number of times this has happened to me, or see my exs do it, but it's nice to finally see through some of their sh*t and understand where they are coming from.
Next time a chick flirts or kinos with you, just take it at face value and nothing more. Understand that it is natural for her to behave this way, to increase her circle of men that she has control over, thus increasing her social power:
As Franco mentions, many chicks don't go out with f*cking on their mind like men. When a chick flirts with us, many of us automatically think, "does she want to f*ck me?" But from her perspective, are you sure she is thinking the same thing?:Franco wrote:
Women take lot of advantage from this because by having the game all the time ON like us PUAs (Pick Up Artist) they can "remote control" lot of people, just like experienced PUAs do ... the circle of the man she has power on only increases without her having to even take panties off..
Simply consider her flirting with you as a form of weak action ... ie. it does not necessarily mean she really likes you. Take it at face value and simply realize this is her natural behavior. How do you find out if she really likes you then? As mentioned before, you can cut through her BS by properly escalating (note the word "properly" - if you are pressed with rape charges, it probably wasn't "proper"). You put her to stronger action and if that passes without resistance, you put her yet to even stronger action (note that you may not be able to escalate to sex in one day as it depends on the chick in question and how good you are at establishing rapport and your own skills in general).Franco wrote:
The IOI (Indicator Of Interest) is a bait meant to control you. Women do this all the time but they are smarter than the average guy: they do IOIs but sex "just happens". They rarely go out "to have a great f*ck". This approach gives them the possibility of gaming a lot of guys at the same time.
Below is the entire response from Franco:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>On 7/22/05 3:03:00 AM, fskrak wrote:
One of the basics of AFC thinking is to project male thinking into the woman and believe that she would behave like a man.
Men think logically in this way:
- Game on = I am out hunting to f*ck women.
- Game off = I am not out hunting and relax.
Now you fail to understand why this chick behaves like this because chicks are ALWAYS in the GAME ON MODE.
The reason they developed this skill of having game on mode all the time on is NEED FOR SURVIVAL. We have muscles and logic and they have to GAME US to survive.
What would you think if males would start suddenly to makeup and wear very thight trousers, maybe transparent with the purpose of showing balls and d*ck?
Well that is what woman have done for centuries! They are in relationships and get married but their game is all the time ON.
Women take lot of advantage from this because by having the game all the time ON like us PUAs they can "remote control" lot of people, just like experienced PUAs do.
So at this stage do like TD (Tyler Durden) says: why she is giving you an IOI (Indicator of Interest) does not matter. Women to that all the time and most of the man fail to detect it because women play a "smooth" game all the time which goes under the radar of most men.
My specific comments:
>Hi There,
>Recently I had a spike in the
>IOI from a chick that I know
>for about couple of months. I
>want to know what exactly I
>did for this to happen.
You are a man and she likes you. The IOI is a bait meant to control you. Women do this all the time but they are smarter than the average guy: they do IOIs but sex "just happens". They rarely go out "to have a great f*ck". This approach gives them the possibility of gaming a lot of guys at the same time.
I am
>trying to understand a woman’s
>mind. I strongly believe in
>what PlayerSupreme says that
>if you can control the mind,
>you can control the pvssy.
And he is right. Now I tell you how you can "remote control" back this chick.
(snipped)
>dancing. She is in her 20s.
>The relationship with her has
>been just of casual
>acquaintance.
Women can maintaint "dozens" of apparently innocent "casual acquaintances" on all the time while waiting for the good occasion. They are programmed to gain SOCIAL POWER.
>She is at
>beginner level (I am at
>intermediate) and we dance
>once in a while. She hangs out
>with a group of other guys who
>come there. Her IOI had been
>low.
She gives IOIs to several guys and "remote controls" all of them, including you.
If the scale is between 1
>to 10 with 1 being lowest and
>10 highest, her IOI was about
>2.
Ahahah, what male logic!
(snipped)
>The next day, I went to a club
>for dancing. I met one of my
>friends (male) and started
>talking to him. The chick,
>mentioned above, comes to me
>from nowhere and starts
>hugging me and kissing me on
>my cheek and starts talking to
>me as if my friend, who was
>standing in front of me, did
>not exist at all.
So social proofing herself with the other guy and using you as PIVOT at that single time.
So the circle of the man she has power on only increases without her having to even take panties off..
>She then
>wanted to dance with me.
And show it to the other guy.
>When
>she was leaving (about 12 AM)
>she came looking for me to say
>bye. She said that she is
>leaving and that she has to go
>see her boyfriend whom she had
>not seen in about 1 ½ months.
Read woman sub-communication: "I am horny and my borefriend did not give me d*ck for 1 1/2 month, maybe I am getting d*ck from somewhere else and I just wait for you either supplicate to me of f*ck me like a man. I will get power in both cases, no matter what"
>She said “Good nite, honey!”
>before she left. Again, I
>should remind you all that I
>used to hardly talk to her
>when I saw her in the club
>before.
So you were a challenge to her.
>I know this sudden spike in
>the IOI is because I made her
>feel good about her car
>purchase. But, what is not
>clear to me is the connection
>between making her feel good
>about her car purchase and her
>sudden increase of affection
>towards to me. I pushed some
>hot button in her. But I do
>not know which one. Can you
>explain what exactly happened
>here?
She is gaming you like all the other guys. I am right now doing the same to at least 3-4 chicks in my social circle without having to cheat on my wife even once. TD advice is very good: you simply isolate her and f*ck her. You take away all the power from her by doing that.
Franco
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You can find Franco's response at: http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?239611,8
Maximus_Decimus
