"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Women are like mirrors

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I have noticed that when they are really in to you, they tend to change to be more like you. Examples with my GF include that she now drinks my brand of whiskey, bought sandles the same brand as mine and uses many of my common phrases like "I like that" and "sort it out".

Anyone else notice this and have examples?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yeah, it's basic body language/mirroring 101. When they're into you they mimic you (they're trying to get in synch with you). Once engaged, then you have the closeness, her following your lead and other forms of attraction. Attraction can never be denied....
 

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They certainly like looking at themselves in mirrors.
 

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Mirroring is good unless it's bad. What I mean by that is if a chick mirrors TOO much, watch out. That means she doesn't have her own identity. Usually not a good sign, along the lines of borderline.
I have found that healthy women do mirror some. That's ok, as long as she sticks to her own identity. It's actually a good sign in small doses. You've got frame my friend. Just be sure she isn't doing it over the top.
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Well, don't let this post worry you in light of past posts of yours, probably fine, but the personality disordered I've dated had been doing this for decades. They were like chameleon mish-mash of all their old BFs. At first you think, wow this woman has good taste in music... then after 6 months you realize it was never actually her taste, but the dude 3 BFs back from you. She got her knowledge of cars from another one, sports from another. Nothing wrong with this if it is a legit interest, but IME it rarely is.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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this is pretty common within all people, males males, girls girls, girls females, etc.

Somebody likes somebody (as a friend or lover) they'll copy them, usually subconsciously.

It's kind of how we're programmed to learn. We see people we like (our parents, hopefully) and try and copy them.

Later on in school we pick up habits, phrases, etc, from the "cool kids," etc.

Human see, human do.
 

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taiyuu_otoko said:
this is pretty common within all people, males males, girls girls, girls females, etc.

Somebody likes somebody (as a friend or lover) they'll copy them, usually subconsciously.

It's kind of how we're programmed to learn. We see people we like (our parents, hopefully) and try and copy them.

Later on in school we pick up habits, phrases, etc, from the "cool kids," etc.

Human see, human do.

That's why its good to consider who's close to you. You gonna be a lot like them.
 

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Oh yeah it's a form of flattery. My ex would always get all giddy when my accent would come out. She would try to imitate it. Any jokes or sayings I had would by recycled by her all the time.

Dasein nailed it too, I'm too old to give a f about that sh*t tho.
 

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They might also take on your interests, start liking some of the music you do, stuff like that. If they really love you, they will adopt your favorite football team.
 

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I've definitely noticed the phrase mimicking. I keep on hearing my own material parroted back to me.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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This is a common symptom of borderline personality disorder.

Just a heads up.
 

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SeymourCake said:
This is a common symptom of borderline personality disorder.

Just a heads up.
all women do this when they are really, really into you and hold you on a pedestal.

But what you are talking about is mirroring, a tactic manipulators use to confuse some one. It can make some one unsure of your intention, and uncertainty creates emotional attachment.

Power dynamics[edit]
Main article: Power (social and political)
Additionally, individuals are likely to mirror the person of higher status or power within the situation.[9] Mirroring individuals of higher power may create an illusion of higher status, or create rapport with the individual in power, thus allowing the person to gain favor with the individual in power. This mechanism may be helpful for individuals in situations where they are in a position of bargaining with an individual who possesses more power, as the rapport that mirroring creates may help to persuade the higher status individual to help the person of lower status. These situations include job interviews, other work situations such as requesting promotions, parent-child interactions, and asking professors for favors. Each of these situations involve one party who is in a more powerless position for bargaining, and another party who has the ability to fulfill the person of lower status's needs, but may not necessarily wish to. Thus, mirroring can be a useful tool for individuals of lower status in order to persuade the other party to relinquish goods or privileges for the lower status party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_(psychology)#Power_dynamics

Nice guys do this with women also.
 

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If women were like mirrors they'd be a lot better looking.
 

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We all do this to some degree. I have noticed women doing this. I got a big laugh out of my ex once, she started talking like one of her BFF's (different accent) and I said "why are you talking like Sallie?"

She didn't even realize it. Was funny though.
 

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glass half full said:
I got a big laugh out of my ex once, she started talking like one of her BFF's (different accent) and I said "why are you talking like Sallie?"
I had a buddy in high school. Went to Europe after college and fell in love with some Polish girl, so he went and visited her for a long stretch. I saw him a few years later and he was speaking with a Polish accent.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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