Women and The Ravages of Time

[Latinoman]

not only are the preppy people getting the effects of karma...the tough bullies recieve the same fate. i had a really good friend, who was constantly bullied by alot of the tough guys in my hometown. he got bullied so much that he left highschool and relocated to far off city. back then he was no match for any of these guys. fast forward to 5 years later after learning how to box. he came back in town and he looked me up. as we were driving down the street.. traffic was backed up and in front of us was one of the bullies with his girlfriend that picked on him. he got out of his car and knocked on this guys window and told him to get out or he was hauling him out. the guy was petrified with fear. the guy was literally crying saying he was just joking around back then. my friend walked back to the car and felt vindicated. he wasn't done though. he basically had a list of the people who had tourtured him and he was back in town to get them.(also a week later, the girl who seen how her boyfriend was crying in fear, dumped him.)

that week i have never seen a man with such anger, looking for the taste of revenge. he did the list and some of the guys were afraid of him and he let them walk. others fought back only to get pulverized by his boxing skills.
i asked him, after it all, was it worth it and he said all the wounds he endured through the years are now healed.

that was crazy

That's pretty stupid behavior.

He can box all he want...but he cannot dodge bullets. I know of a boxer in Puerto Rico that was killed (he was a very good one too).

And what is to say that those same individuals won't seek revenge in another 10 or so years?


Desdinova and Karma did the correct thing. They saw what time did to those two women. And they simply decided NOT to remind them about the past.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Heheh,..great thread. I've got 3 stories like this.

When I was 15 or 16 I was in total love (teenage lust) with this girl named Sarah. I did everything in the AFC handbook to get with this girl - played friend after a LJBF rejection, wrote to her, called her all the friggin' time, etc. I got "I'm not ready for a relationship now" jive right before she got the hot monkey sex from my best friend Derek. He was the Bad Boy and she couldn't get enough of him even after he'd dumped her, and I of course played right along. Flash forward to when I was 22. I had gotten my sh!t together, I was in the gym religiously, I played in a very popular band in the area and I was walking through the outdoor halls of the college I was at when I hear some girl's voice say "Rollo, hey!" I sh!t you not I looked around and I looked right past her at first wondering who was calling for me. Then she says, "Hey it's me Sarah." I look down, and sitting on this bench is this 300+lbs land monster with the barely recognizable face of this girl I'd obessed over about 6 years earlier. I was floored. Apparently she'd gone through rehab for cocaine and ballooned after it because she replaced the drug with food. For the first time in my life I was speechless.

My second story was about this one girl Brigette who I also had a major AFC crush on in high school and I lacked even the confidence to really approach. Again, flash forward to about 22 and I pull this exact same girl in a club (who actually still looked pretty good), only now I can't keep her off of me. I ended up turning her into a fantastic booty call. This girl would literally knock on my window and climb in through it to fukk me in the morning before I left for work. However, it got to the point where I dumped her, A.) because she insisted on never taking birthcontrol and I had a close call with her and B.) I was tapping 4 or 5 other girls at the time that I thought were better plates to spin (even though I didn't know what plate theory was then).

Lastly and most recently, I had my first girlfriend look me up online. This was the girl I first had sex with at 17 and I ended up moving to the college town she was enrolling into so I could keep fukking her. I basically altered the course of my life for 2 years to accommodate her life decisions, only to have her cheat on me and break up with me after I'd moved. She was my first so naturally I assumed she was the ONE and the better I "supported" her the more she'd appreciate me (i.e. fukk me), so I took it pretty hard. I had still tapped her once or twice after all this, but she dropped off my world almost 20 years ago, until last year. I get this email from her and I guess she'd looked me up after hearing about this reunion gathering from an old church (non-traditional) we'd gone to. I checked out pictures of her on a vanity site she has (not MySpace), and I can't say time has been kind to her. At 37 she looks about 50, makes about $32K tutoring kids how to read (after that terrific degree I moved to 'help' her get), she's "married" to another woman (an open marriage so to speak). It was kind of an eerie feeling just barely being able to make out the girl I'd known at 17, now at 37.

In all of these situation, but particularly this one (after 20 years), it's hard not to feel more than a little self-satisfied and think karma's a b!tch, but I wonder how many women I'd gotten burned by who are doing better now after the years. I'd also like to think that men tend to do better with age, but I know this isn't always the case. I know I've done well for myself - I'm in peak condition, I have a beautiful wife of 10 years, a perfect daughter of 8, I pull nearly 6 figures in a fairly glamourous line of work, I travel a lot aand I'm college educated. Though I'm aware that living well is the best revenge, I think that living well in order to exact that revenge is misguided and AFC. Thing's like this will happen regardless so long as you put the emphasis on your own betterment.

 

[WestCoaster]

Old, ravaged and married a WOMAN?!! Oh, that's classic ... it's also called dodging a major bullet.

 

[DJDamage]

I was tapping 4 or 5 other girls at the time that I thought were better plates to spin (even though I didn't know what plate theory was then).

Hey Rollo, I know its going a bit off topic but can you expend on the story with 4 or 5 women you were tapping at the time. My one question is how were you able to keep on tapping 4 to 5 women with out losing out on the time it takes to keep the interest level of the women to remain high in you (if you don't pay them enough attention then they get fed up) plus able to run around with them without them running into each other?? I find that even dating 2 women at the same time is time consuming and a bit stressful while you end up missing out on other things.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

You have to understand the context of that period in my life. I was a bass player in a very popular band in L.A. at about 22-23. This was during the late 80's into the early 90's and the environment then was a lot different to say the least. That said, lets just say POOK was right when he wrote that Women would rather share a confident Bad Boy than be committed to a faithful loser. Unfortunately, I realized this too late with some of the women I did finally decide to do the LTR thing with.

However, at the time of the story I related, I had 2 booty calls going (one was this girl), 1 semi-serious thing going and 2 other girls I had that I slept with who'd made known to me that they were wanting me to meet their parents or wanted something more than the last time we got together. I've never had a 3-some but I have done double and triple shifts (two or three different girls in the same 24 hour period - yes, I showered in between) and this was that time in my life. How did I do it? I didn't plan it, I just did what I wanted to and that was to stay above all of the 'relationship' BS, but not by design. I was more concerned with the next show and paying rent (you didn't play the L.A. club scene back then for the money) than I was some dumb chick telling me they wanted me exclusively, because I knew there'd be 2 more wanting to get with me in another week. I enjoyed meeting new women. Maybe I slept with them, maybe I didn't, it didn't matter at that time because I could always call a girl and tap her if I had some downtime. All these girls knew I was seeing other women, but I never had to explain this to them, they just accepted it or moved on and it was all OK.

Interestingly enough, once I did get involved with the first one I thought was worth being exclusive with that's when my life came to a grinding halt and all of this crazy b!tch's jealous psychosis paralyzed me for 4.5 years.

 

[Latinoman]

Interestingly enough, once I did get involved with the first one I thought was worth being exclusive with that's when my life came to a grinding halt and all of this crazy b!tch's jealous psychosis paralyzed me for 4.5 years.

Those are 4.5 years that you will never get back. And I suspect it gets frustrating when you try to advice men around that same age group and then don't understand that they are risking the same...or more.

And imagine those men in their late 30s and early 40s that after years of "DJ" lifestyle they stagnate their lives for 5 years...those are the ones that truly get screw up too!

People sometimes don't realize the sea of experience in this Mature Forum.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Those are 4.5 years that you will never get back.

Yeah.

I know.

 

[Freddy1]

Hey your not the only one who f*cked up in life. I really screwed my life over believe me. I'm 36 now. I wasted several years dealing with religious cult issues. I'm glad its out of my system. I never really had a relationship with a woman. (I'm not lying!) Even though there were opportunites in my life to do so. I grew up in a very sheltered environment. Alot of wasted years. Yeah I need a good kick to the head! I probably messed up more here than anyone else is.

 

[Bible_Belt]

POOK was right when he wrote that Women would rather share a confident Bad Boy than be committed to a faithful loser.

I agree.

 

[disciple]

Women have the advantage early in the game when it comes to the time game because a hot 18 year old girl can get more attention than a handsome 18 year old guy (although there are exceptions, I was one, ha ha ha!!!!)

Anyway, after about 27 or 28 (it really varies from girl to girl and lifestyle and genetics) alot of chicks start becoming a sloppy umpaloompa.

Those firm breasts that once stood like twin mountain peaks will start to go south and cover her stomach which has already gone on vacation south itself.

The tight round booty that used to make you hate to see her go but glad to watch her leave, is no more.

That great a$$ she once had, what a beautiful future she had behind her.

That once beautiful radiant face with sparkling eyes and smooth skin looks like it needs botox, lifts, and a whole lot of plastic and glue to put it back together.

She used to get stares and now she gets ignored.

The princess has now become a pauper.

The circle of female life is complete.

That circle of life sh*t reminds me of the Lion King.

 

[wayword]

I'm 36 now. I wasted several years dealing with religious cult issues. I'm glad its out of my system. I never really had a relationship with a woman. (I'm not lying!)

In their older years...

Men regret not sleeping with more women.
Women regret not sleeping with less.

 

[squirrels]

Yeah, I couldn't believe it either. It was a very blonde beard, but it was VERY obviously there. Most women get facial hair when they hit menopause. Either she hit menopause before she turned 27, or she's just really unlucky.

I can't understand why a woman her age would do something about facial hair. She MUST look in the mirror at least once a day and see it!

It's possible she had gotten married and her husband is too pvssy to leave her.

 

[synergy1]

of course there are as many people who stay good looking and have fulfilling lives no matter what they did in high school and what not.

Thanks to the modern miracle of MySpace, i am able to track individuals from high school. As you pointed out, some have remained unchanged in the past 7 years, while others have aged horribly. In the case of my high school, the prom queen looks like a very average 35 year old mother now. I think the kids in high school who did not shine as much have more to prove, more ground to cover than the kids who had it made. These kids were unhappy with their status in high school for whatever reason, and felt they needed to improve themselves.

Being at the panicle of popularity results in complacency. Complacency results in lackadaisical effort in terms of bettering ones self. Why improve yourself when everyone has kissed your @ss for years?

 

[SoCalMike]

hmmm...

Originally Posted by insanity
not only are the preppy people getting the effects of karma...the tough bullies recieve the same fate. i had a really good friend, who was constantly bullied by alot of the tough guys in my hometown. he got bullied so much that he left highschool and relocated to far off city. back then he was no match for any of these guys. fast forward to 5 years later after learning how to box. he came back in town and he looked me up. as we were driving down the street.. traffic was backed up and in front of us was one of the bullies with his girlfriend that picked on him. he got out of his car and knocked on this guys window and told him to get out or he was hauling him out. the guy was petrified with fear. the guy was literally crying saying he was just joking around back then. my friend walked back to the car and felt vindicated. he wasn't done though. he basically had a list of the people who had tourtured him and he was back in town to get them.(also a week later, the girl who seen how her boyfriend was crying in fear, dumped him.)

that week i have never seen a man with such anger, looking for the taste of revenge. he did the list and some of the guys were afraid of him and he let them walk. others fought back only to get pulverized by his boxing skills.
i asked him, after it all, was it worth it and he said all the wounds he endured through the years are now healed.

that was crazy

No offense dude but that sounds like baloney.

I don't really like the theme of this thread, it's a lot of whining and "these jocks, preps, etc. always get what they deserve" BS which just sounds like bitter loser talk to me.

don't get me wrong, i couldn't stand these popular people, jocks, etc. in high school and yeah if they're fat, ugly, whatever now I'd take a second to spit on them as I pass by, but let's be realistic folks - not that many of them end up like that. Actually, good looking and popular people usually have an easy time of it (especially women) for many years after high school.

My view is, who cares what these morons do or become? I'm only concerned about bettering myself physically, financially, mentally.

 

[SoCalMike]

Women have the advantage early in the game when it comes to the time game because a hot 18 year old girl can get more attention than a handsome 18 year old guy (although there are exceptions, I was one, ha ha ha!!!!)

Anyway, after about 27 or 28 (it really varies from girl to girl and lifestyle and genetics) alot of chicks start becoming a sloppy umpaloompa.

Those firm breasts that once stood like twin mountain peaks will start to go south and cover her stomach which has already gone on vacation south itself.

The tight round booty that used to make you hate to see her go but glad to watch her leave, is no more.

That great a$$ she once had, what a beautiful future she had behind her.

That once beautiful radiant face with sparkling eyes and smooth skin looks like it needs botox, lifts, and a whole lot of plastic and glue to put it back together.

She used to get stares and now she gets ignored.

The princess has now become a pauper.

The circle of female life is complete.

That circle of life sh*t reminds me of the Lion King.

That's true in many cases, however I just met a woman who is 40 and is pretty hot. She looks about 35, tight body, nice face and hair, etc.

Just depends bro.

One thing I will agree with though, is that men usually do age better and the advantage definitely turns to our favor as the years go by. The other day I saw this older guy (roughly mid 40's - 50, lots of grey hair) with a hottie who looked to be in her early 30's. But of course in these cases money is a big factor.

 

[Latinoman]

But of course in these cases money is a big factor.

When it comes to RELATIONSHIPS or women looking for a partner for a RELATIONSHIP...money or power will always play a big factor.

Women tend to prefer men that makes at least as much or more than them. Some would "settle" for a man that makes less if that man has a future or has "societal value" (e.g. a rich woman would settle with a man that is a Senator).

Now, once again, I am using the term "tend to prefer".

 

[Desdinova]

wasted several years dealing with religious cult issues. I'm glad its out of my system.
I probably messed up more here than anyone else is.

Maybe. Maybe not. Welcome to my world. For an added bonus, throw in one alcoholic parent, and an abusive one too. The way I see it, wasting time in a LTR with a psycho b1tch was nothing compared to my childhood. I figured that since I was able to handle my messed up childhood, I could easily handle a damaged woman and show her what I never got as a child.... Love. Just goes to show that I didn't learn anything from my parents, but followed in their footsteps for quite some time.

My cult and AFC deprogramming REALLY began when that woman drove me to this site. I haven't looked back since

 

[Vulpine]

Complacency results in lackadaisical effort in terms of bettering ones self.

Not only did you use "lackadaisical" in a sentence correctly, you also spelled it correctly. You, sir, are my new hero.

You're right, though. In high school, you have both a day and a daisy when you are on a winning streak. I myself was complacent after high school because I had it made. Well, "the ravages of time" affixed an extra sixty pounds to my body and put a dewlap on my chin.

I woke up one morning and wondered: "Where did it all go?" "My happiness is gone, why? I mean, FAWK! Look at me! I'm a damn beach ball! What have I done?"

The last part, the holding yourself accountable, is the part that women never seem to reach. Instead, they come up with excuses to rationalize and accommodate their fat/haggardness. "I had kids." "I'm getting old." "I can't live without my beer and pasta!"

And so, having explained away their mistakes, women (and many men) resign themselves to their misery. Not me, oh no. My little voice in my head told me: "You sorry sack of sh!t, you missed the bus. You better beat feet to catch that motherfuxer at the next stop!"

And this, THIS, is where people fail. Rather than "run after the bus", they wait for the "next bus to come along". Which, in terms of life, is never.

Alas, these people NEVER make it to the party.
:woo:

 

[insanity]

women do miss the bus. sure it's one thing to just be young and have fun. but how many girls have you ever talked to that always seem to remember that one great guy. it's like they treated the good guys like garbage and toss them out with the trash. every realtionship is different, but there is always that one that is truly special.

i had a girl pal who was a knockout. she was dating one of my friends and they just clicked. anyways one day at work this guy kept flirting with her and eventually she became smitting with this guy. soon she started looking for reasons to dump the guy she was dating. she would start stupid fights, accuse him of not doing this and that and she constantly mentioned this guy at her work place about how funny, smart and cool this guy was. eventually my friend just gave up and it took his ex a milla-second to start dating the other guy.
years later i bumped into this girl and she looked like she rotted. she told me she had a child and she was a single mother and times were tough. the so called funny,smart guy was a deadbeat dad and he left her after she told him she was pregnant. she then asked me if i ever talked to her ex from along time ago. i said yeah he's married now living out in the big city and doing really good. that seemed to dissapoint her that he was doing great. she then said she wished she could go back and never have made the mistake of leaving the greatest guy she ever met.

we all make those mistakes and wish we could go back and do it all again. but the main thing is, is to live your life to the best

 

[lee36044]

One thing I will agree with though, is that men usually do age better and the advantage definitely turns to our favor as the years go by. The other day I saw this older guy (roughly mid 40's - 50, lots of grey hair) with a hottie who looked to be in her early 30's. But of course in these cases money is a big factor.

Don't keep believing that piece of stereotyping! After retirig my DJ skills, settling in for about fifteen years in various LTR's, and basically reverting to AFC behavior for all practical purposes, I found myself single, broke from the divorce, and rebuilding a life in my mid 40's. This was about a year ago. The wife that walked was 32, a good solid 8.5, and married me when I had nothing. The split had more to do with reverting to AFC after landing her than anything.

Since then, I've put a lot of work into getting where I want to be. Invested the money I have on living the life I want to. And brushed off those DJ skills (part of why I'm here now) so I won't wind up making the same mistakes again.

Like I said, I'm mid forties but pass for 38 or so. Average looks at best. I don't have a lot of money. But as I said in another post, I've been dating women ranging from 22 to 58! My preference is early to mid thirties! And I'm dating hot chicks in that age range without having a lot of cash or possesions! Money is not a big factor! Attraction is.

Like I said ... don't fall for the stereotypes. They aren't always true