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Woman won't give her last name?

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I met this girl online and we hung out a couple times. The weird thing is that we were talking last night and she won't give me her last name, not that I really care right now, but I find this odd.

To me this is a big flag, and trust me when I say there are plenty of others too with this girl, but this seems strange. She obviously doesn't trust me enough to give it, and she did have some funny creep stories about guys she met online so that is part of it.

I laughed it off and told her that she is obviously guarded and a bit jaded, and she simply laughed it off too.

Then I was trying to tease her a bit and told her, "I don't date woman who are too afraid to give there last name...too bad I wanted to get to know ya"

This turned her off a bit but oh well. I know saying that was unecessary but I expected her to see how silly this was and tell me but she didn't.

I think this woman has had one too many bad experiences with stalkers and creeps.
 

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SanDog11 said:
she won't give me her last name, not that I really care right now, but I find this odd.
Hey bro, this is a good post. I see some of my old mistakes here.

Yes you do care & here is the evidence.

SanDog11 said:
To me this is a big flag
And here is why it's a big flag for you.

SanDog11 said:
She obviously doesn't trust me enough to give it
And this was a good playful way to address it:

SanDog11 said:
I laughed it off and told her that she is obviously guarded and a bit jaded, and she simply laughed it off too.
And here is your mistake...because...back to square one. You really do care.

SanDog11 said:
Then I was trying to tease her a bit and told her, "I don't date woman who are too afraid to give there last name...too bad I wanted to get to know ya"
You could've let it go & moved on to the next thing. By making it into something, you caused a block in the vibe. Said another way, you caring about it killed the vibe.

I find myself doing this at times...then I learn from it, make adjustments within myself & then don't repeat that mistake again.

So, here is your chance to learn from this interaction.

Outlaw
 

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SanDog11 said:
I think this woman has had one too many bad experiences with stalkers and creeps.
^^ Exactly ^^

The North Pole just moved to Antarctica, the Earth just got a second moon , and Lefty is taking the woman's side on this one. This will not happen again for another 157,356 years so listen up:

I know from many, women including ones who are just coworkers and friends, that women get a LOT of solicitations online from "creepy" and down right mental case men.

Guys sending pictures of their c0cks before even saying "hi", not leaving them alone even when the woman says "leave me alone or else", etc, etc. Come on, really????

I personally am OK with a woman if she wants to date me and get to know me 3,4, maybe 5 times before giving up her last name, address, etc. But I wouldn't tolerate it lasting much longer than that or she would be gone.
 

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the red flag to me would be the online part already,

dude just have fun and have sex with her, unless for some strange out of the normal she is really a quality woman who tried to find someone online for the sake of trying, but since she tells you she had too many freaks over thr internet and she still try, well you know the definition of insanity right? doing the same thing hoping for a diferent outcome.
 

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She has something to hide. I can understand someone not wanting to give details to someone they just met but not wanting to do it after a number of dates? Something is not right.
 

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Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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dude just have fun and have sex with her, unless for some strange out of the normal she is really a quality woman who tried to find someone online for the sake of trying
That's the think I effed up on. This was a good "fun girl" and I messed up good sex when I don't even care WTF her last name is. With that said, she took my games to seriously and was enough to put her off.

Still. if your that messed up that you can't tell me your last name, then so be it.

The way I see it now is that I could give this one more last-ditch effort and contact her next week and try to stretch this fun out a little bit more, or I can just delete her number.
 

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Ya she said that when I told her "I don't date women who can't give there last names" she had the option to tell me or say bye lol...she took the ladder.

I just said it's obvious you're not comfortable enough yet...or your a wanted woman jokingly. Either way for her to think i'm giving altermatoms is crazy.

Talk about being stubborn, jaded, damaged, confused, and not knowing a quality guy when you see one..Not that I want more than just having fun with her.
 
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