Woman hires hitman to murder husband; Supreme Court of Canada lets her walk

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Look how much this poor statistic has aged and how frail he's become in such a short time. That divorce industry/murder attempt sure does fvck a hapless beta up.

 

[AAAgent]

Many Canadians here on the forum just complain and complain about feminism. From what i hear, Canadian women are some of the easiest lays out there. They also seem very liberal. I got to Canada every few months and stay for a few days for work and the women are actually pretty nice and open. We have a few Canadian DJ's on the forum as well that post FR's.

Just because women don't open up their legs and beg you to inseminate them doesn't mean they're feminist. If you want it bad enough and are willing to work for it, no matter how feminist a country is, you'll get poon.

 

[AAAgent]

It's a pretty safe general assumption. The majority of people that complain about women and feminism together are usually the ones that aren't getting laid and relate that to society being taken over by feminism. Are you saying that's not the case?

I highly doubt people that getting laid consistently complain about how society isn't catered to man? Heck, most men on the forum don't get laid consistently and they don't whine about how the west sucks and is feminized. They deal with it. Man is probably one of the few species out there that has the ability to learn and adapt. On top of that, we're also one of the fastest adapting species out there. People that get laid regularly understand this. Sh1t happens, you deal with it or work around it and continue moving forward. It's the really lazy people that feel entitled to have things and when it's not their way, they complain how it's somehow rigged.

 

[Bokanovsky]

It's a pretty safe general assumption. The majority of people that complain about women and feminism together are usually the ones that aren't getting laid and relate that to society being taken over by feminism. Are you saying that's not the case?

You are dead wrong about this. Getting laid in Canada is not a problem, that much is true. In fact, getting laid anywhere outside of the U.S. is not a problem. Americans are pretty much the only people in the world who make a big deal out of sex (despite being the world's biggest producers of pornography and skanky celebs...go figure).

As an American, you probably have a hard time imagining a world where getting laid is not a man's #1 priority in life. As long as you get to stick your pee pee in a wet hole, that's all that matters, right? Well, some of us have graduated from being primarily concerned with our primary physical urges and want something more out of life. We want to live in a society where we are not hated and shamed for being male, where we are not discriminated by the justice system, where we can raise a family without being treated like indentured servants for our wives.

 

[Boilermaker]

Danger, sorry but, the fact that I already knew that you were going to come back here and write this, is spoiling the game for me.

As I said above, I don't really care about the details of this "specific" instance. Because I know that even if she got away with murder,

1) This is a specific case that one can't generalize.
2) You can't (and you shouldn't know the answer) from the get go.

You are deeply invested in this, and I understand that you would do, find, distort, anything anything that support your core beliefs. That saddens me, and I don't like to play this game.

Here's what is happening: Take an article that has remote resemblance to the issue at hand (Feminism). Never appreciate the nuances, don't bother to think and get fully convinced that it is a white-black issue. Come share it with bro's. Pity,pity,pity, and feel good about yourselves.

If anyone comes up and calls out on this circus, tell them they are "shaming" you.

This isn't how real men work, on real problems. And I am really interested in being wrong. But even to say that " I am agnostic, because I don't know" isn't enough for people's appetites here.

So you guys go on. Cheers,

 

[AAAgent]

You are dead wrong about this. Getting laid in Canada is not a problem, that much is true. In fact, getting laid anywhere outside of the U.S. is not a problem. Americans are pretty much the only people in the world who make a big deal out of sex (despite being the world's biggest producers of pornography and skanky celebs...go figure).

As an American, you probably have a hard time imagining a world where getting laid is not a man's #1 priority in life. As long as you get to stick your pee pee in a wet hole, that's all that matters, right? Well, some of us have graduated from being primarily concerned with our primary physical urges and want something more out of life. We want to live in a society where we are not hated and shamed for being male, where we are not discriminated by the justice system, where we can raise a family without being treated like indentured servants for our wives.

If you're so adamant about living a family life (wife & kids) why don't you do that then. Whining and crying about how life is unfair to you and man sure as h3ll won't change a thing. If you wan't change, make it happen. You either adapt to your surroundings or change the law. There's already plenty of threads about feminism in North America, so what you're emphasizing isn't new. It also doesn't help with how to be a better man or improve your chance of success with dating or finding a girl to settle down with.

It's not like it's impossible in society anyway. One of my bosses told me he wouldn't get married. His girlfriend knows that. They've been together for over 5 years and are in their 30's and want kids. His reason for not getting married wasn't because of feminism and the laws that will r@pe men if they get divorced but more along the lines of tradition. He doesn't need a piece a paper telling him whether or not he can spend the rest of his life with someone or not, nor does he need some 20karat diamond ring. Might not be the same reasons as yours but it accomplishes the same goals. He's able to spend his life with a woman and raise a family without being restricted to our laws.

 

[Bokanovsky]

If you're so adamant about living a family life (wife & kids) why don't you do that then.

It's called risk-benefit analysis.

He's able to spend his life with a woman and raise a family without being restricted to our laws.

Our laws are a little more clever than you give them credit for. If you cohabit with a woman for more than a year, she is considered your common law spouse. There may not have a piece of paper that spells it out, but she is still basically your wife.

 

[AAAgent]

Actually, it's a very poor assumption, and you hit on the reasoning with your comment that .

The reason this is the case is because The men who complain about feminism (misandry) are those who have something to lose, not the men who aren't getting laid. Unless of course you are trying to accuse Berlusconi, a guy known for being a player and consistently scoring hot @ss, of being a guy that can't get laid? The reason most men don't complain is because most men have nothing to lose!!


And those men with something to lose have every right to be angry. The mere fact you refer to is as 'catered' shows your lack of understanding on the problems at hand for a man who wants to keep and retain a family without being punished simply because the wife becomes unhaaaaappy.

To say "you deal with iit or you work around it" is the lazy way out. Would that have been a proper answer to racism? Is that something you would say to blacks? Why would you say it for sexism?

Something to lose as in what? Money?

Who says marriage is the only way to spend the rest of your life with somebody. Even if you do want that piece and paper, why not sign a pre-nup that will protect you. Having something to lose that is completely out of your control is one thing, but when you walk face first into a situation knowing full well you can get screwed and not protect yourself, you really can't argue since you're to blame. You're argument is flawed right there and also a very bad assumption.

As to your comment about dealing with things or adapting being lazy, since when was fixing a problem the lazy way out? I guess nowadays whining is what real men do.

I kid, I kid.

Life is not perfect, and there isn't a way to live happy forever. Problems will arise. You solve them and move on, otherwise they continue to haunt you. Adapt or become the change you want to see. Once again, as i said in my last post, if you're so adamant about whining on about feminism, why don't you lobby for new laws. Hey, even the women stepped up and forced change. They changed the laws in their favor, as did African Americans (less in their favor but more equal but they forced changed still).

 

[Burroughs]

Once you have a child with a woman whether or not you are married you become her financial slave enforced by the courts of the state

this man found that out the hard way...

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195329

 

[betheman]

..Meanwhile a woman who was caught red handed, plotting the murder of a man, walks free from court...because she has been through a lot...

the fact is, she conspired to have her ex murdered, this is a crime, how the hell does a person walk free from court?

 

[Burroughs]

..Meanwhile a woman who was caught red handed, plotting the murder of a man, walks free from court...because she has been through a lot...

the fact is, she conspired to have her ex murdered, this is a crime, how the hell does a person walk free from court?

The whole foundation of civilization is based on the DISPOSABILITY of 99% of non-elite men...dying in wars, dying in a soul stealing job for 40 years, dying in the service of 'family' and 'state' as a invisible slave

...the wheels of civilization would grind to a halt if men ever said as a whole "hey I want a fair share for what I put into this!" ....so men are kept ignorant.

and most stay that way lacking neither the social skill nor the cognition to decipher otherwise

so in this a case a women **feels bad** so she is allowed to plot the death of a man her husband...but men are disposable so who cares....nothing to see here men, nothing to see move along keep working

 

[AAAgent]

@ Danger

Your arguments don't make sense and are targeting topics i didn't even discuss.

Yes money, and I'm not saying anything about marriage. If you think that is the only place where men are getting screwed then you had better open your eyes up. But you make my point for me, the way to protect yourself is to recognize and be aware of what is going on around you. AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. She's been through a lot??? She tried to get her husband murdered for chr1st's sake.

I did not once argue in regards to the case mentioned. Read carefully again before you decide to try to come up with a response and please make it on point. I don't mind debating but don't lead me around in circles with sh1t that's not even on point.

"And those men with something to lose have every right to be angry. The mere fact you refer to is as 'catered' shows your lack of understanding on the problems at hand for a man who wants to keep and retain a family without being punished simply because the wife becomes unhaaaaappy."

I was talking about feminism/Canada/raising a family.

No, you are not kidding. You are being purposefully obtuse. Adapting and dealing are lazy because they are not real solutions, and you know it. The real solution is to change the system, but that is difficult when people such as yourself refuse to see that there is a problem to be fixed. Now don't you think the real issue is the disparity in the legal system between men and women as opposed to telling me, hey just deal with it and adapt? How does one adapt to their ex-wife being let go on murder charges?

That's what you wrote, and it makes no sense as an argument because it's basically repeating what i said below. You adapt to your surroundings and learn to live with it or you deal with the problem and address the issue at its roots.

As to your comment about dealing with things or adapting being lazy, since when was fixing a problem the lazy way out? I guess nowadays whining is what real men do.

I kid, I kid.

Life is not perfect, and there isn't a way to live happy forever. Problems will arise. You solve them and move on, otherwise they continue to haunt you. Adapt or become the change you want to see. Once again, as i said in my last post, if you're so adamant about whining on about feminism, why don't you lobby for new laws. Hey, even the women stepped up and forced change. They changed the laws in their favor, as did African Americans (less in their favor but more equal but they forced changed still).

At least i have the decency to not waste your time....

My previous post already answered all your dumb questions.

How do you deal with it or adapt?
You suck it up and stop whining (which you are not doing), don't get married, or you attack the law directly and lobby for new laws that fit your cause. If you're not willing to do any of these then you can continue to whine as you have been.

 

[Boilermaker]

It should not matter one bit who posts something, only it's content and reasonablility. If you are basing your decisions on author instead of content, then that is a fault with your reasonability, not mine.

You are right, if we are going to be that technical, I shouldn't have told my personal expectation of your reaction publicly. But I am disappointed to say, you reacted exactly as I had expected...!

This isn't meant to generalize, but is yet another anecdote in the case of "the poor hurt beaten wife" and the case against her ex, even though clearly there is no case.

This isn't meant to generalize but is yet another anectode ...
You are generalizing right after you say this isn't meant to generalize... If there's "clearly" not a case here, what's your explanation of the collective behavior of law professionals here? Would you care to elaborate on that please? Is everyone somehow involved in this misandry thing? Is it "shaming" to ask these questions?

If you collect enough anecdotes, pretty soon they are no longer anecdotes.

Did you collect enough anectodes? How many anectodes did you collect? Plus, merely collecting anectodes like pebbles still doesn't make or win an argument. When you say things like "there's clearly injustice here", you have to back that up, too. Because she was admitted in a court of law. And that "fact" doesn't seem to faze you guys one bit!...And it's the most important fact, because we *assume* that they made these debates FOR us, that's the fundamental principle of the modern justice system, no?

Your comment seems to call into question whether there is really misandry today? Is that really what you are saying here?

And wow, just wow. You are making it sound like I can't even ask that question anymore around here. Of course I am asking that question, yes. It is not an undeniable fact, and it certainly isn't as prevalent as you guys are claiming because much of what you project as essentials is speculative decisions, at best...! And again, the counter always ticks upward, because you never bring here major injustice against women, like gang-rapes in India, or pay-inequalities or all the other shít that women have to go through everywhere, just because they are women.

Your counter goes only one way, and that's toward misandry. Because only those examples are specifically selected. And this forum is largely comprised of men. Go, figure.

I am invested in equality. Not this particular item, but I have seen enough like them to know how the system works. But honestly at this point you are being insulting. I have distorted nothing, and surprisingly you have no evidence to back up your claim.

Didn't mean to be insulting. I apologize. I think you are projecting the facts that cater to your understanding of the situation. Your surefire confidence in this is what looks dubious. You're refusing to even consider anything that could invalidate your basic claim here. Example: she *may* have had severe PTSD and Depression due to abuse in her marriage. This is what I meant by distortion.

No, the issue is to point out that a woman can hide behind the "he beat me card" (with no evidence mind you) and voila she gets off for a serious attempted murder charge.

That "voilà" comment is coming a little too fast. My favorite question: How do you know she gets off, i.e, walks away? Were you inside that courtroom? Did you understand all the evidence?

You are shaming because you are the first to throw out insults and the first to walk away from two reasonable questions, as I pointed out in this very post.

Funny because I never accused -you- of shaming me, even though I am clearly the minority here. And you follow every single questioning post I make, be it on gun control, or the elusive unicorn, misandry ... I am not walking away, to me, you are the one who's constantly walking away.

There are multiple ways to work on real problems, unfortunately we don't have the numbers required at this point to implement any real change. And so long as people like yourself refuse to answer questions and then begin on the shaming and insulting behavior, then it is unlikely to happen.

Yes, there are. And looking for what you want to believe isn't an effective way. In fact, it is known to be ineffective.

You are the big shot who's claiming there's misandry today which is as clear as day to you. There are many problems of the world today. Occasional injustice against men could be one of them. But systematic destruction of men in a male-dominated world ??? One wonders, ...

As I said, I am a skeptic, and I am being accused for being one, and all you think you have to do is to find newspaper articles showing there's some woman vs man situation. I could make my job posting murder articles (man killing woman) here and just as easily claim the opposite you know...!

So long as you don't show me something tangible, real evidence instead of these singular anectodes, I will keep fighting for reason and common sense.

 

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It's a pretty safe general assumption. The majority of people that complain about women and feminism together are usually the ones that aren't getting laid and relate that to society being taken over by feminism. Are you saying that's not the case?

I highly doubt people that getting laid consistently complain about how society isn't catered to man? Heck, most men on the forum don't get laid consistently and they don't whine about how the west sucks and is feminized. They deal with it. Man is probably one of the few species out there that has the ability to learn and adapt. On top of that, we're also one of the fastest adapting species out there. People that get laid regularly understand this. Sh1t happens, you deal with it or work around it and continue moving forward. It's the really lazy people that feel entitled to have things and when it's not their way, they complain how it's somehow rigged.

Woah, that's alot of lays.

This post smacks of cheap self affirmation and braggadouchio, a Clayton's self therapy if you will. Nevertheless I'll bite or in this case stoop down. I found game 2 years later in age than what you are now and I can almost guarantee I was nailing a variety of hotter , tighter, lighter dimes than you ever will and I cared for the direction of Western civilization back then just as much as I do now and I didn't even have any children invested back then.

This "just fvck and forget" method come shaming tactic I've seen Slickster here and now you parrot was just as useless to me back then as it is now. I can't just fvck and forget and I dare say the majority of men can't either. Doesn't appear to be in most men's genetic makeup. Although it would have been a laugh if Abe Lincoln spouted " forget the slavery of men, let's just fvck and forget"...... or maybe not?

P.S Apologies to everyone else for the bragging but that seems to be the level this guys still at.

 

[AAAgent]

Tits, do you understand what the root word "brag" means.

I would have thought that since you weren't getting laid until you were 27, you would have been studying or something related educating yourself. Here, i'll lay it out for you (compliments of dictionary.com):

brag

to speak of (one's own achievements, possessions, etc) arrogantly and boastfully



Now that you understand the word, where did i boast/brag about my achievements. Where have I also have mentioned that men fvck and forget? That is clearly your assumption, and a wrong one at that.

What i will do is probably fvcking forget what you just said as it doesn't add value to anything. I might also go lay down on the beach wearing a lay around my neck hoping that all those hot women you laid come give me sloppy seconds. Just kidding.

 

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Tits, do you understand what the root word "brag" means.

I would have thought that since you weren't getting laid until you were 27, you would have been studying or something related educating yourself. Here, i'll lay it out for you (compliments of dictionary.com):

Nah, I was getting laid laid laid laid back when I was an AFC, unfortunately though I was an LTR magnet and that's no way for a young man to live. Shiieeet, do I even strike you as someone who couldn't get laid laid laid laid laid even in my beta days? Give me some credit.

LAID!

 

[AAAgent]

Amen to that. Share the wealth tits because you sure as h3ll have the most lays here.

 

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Amen to that. Share the wealth tits because you sure as h3ll have the most lays here.

Sure man, but YOU? Your taking it to a whole new level. Wow





Lay lady lay

 

[Jitterbug]

Usually it's the younger guys with the "fvck and forget" method. The d1ck rules and thinks. They'll come around. Or maybe not.

That is the very danger of having lots of young men NOT invested in the future of society. Our glorious leaders are doing a fine job to make sure that continues.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Usually it's the younger guys with the "fvck and forget" method. The d1ck rules and thinks. They'll come around. Or maybe not.

That is the very danger of having lots of young men NOT invested in the future of society. Our glorious leaders are doing a fine job to make sure that continues.

They say that a liberal is a conservative who has never been mugged. Same thing with the "f*ck and forget it" guys. They will f*ck and forget until one day some vindictive b*tch decides to ruin their life for whatever reason, and the state and the courts side with her because she is a woman.

I'm amazed that even on a board like this one, there are men who think that it is okay for a woman to get away with trying to murder her husband.