wolf in sheep's clothing

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Ok since coming here and digesting what I've learned here and the stuff I been realizing naturally....I've.been outwardly more picky, confident in my dealings with women. The thing is,.I've.definitely upped my lays in the past 5 years but not so much the quality. Ive.had so much average ***** lately...honestly women in general are.starting to lose their appeal. Seems like with the hotter chicks they are just not into me or don't buy that a guy like me is confident or has some options...

In the.past I remember, when I went more in line with the nice.guy I was typically cast in, I could at least get my foot in the door...and sometimes my **** in the vagina. Now, I've recently put to bed any misgivings I might've had about dating ethics...its a game and ill play it to get what I.want, even if I have to lie. So, has anyone played the nice guy Afc role that some women are comfortable casting you in with any success? I mean, all the while you LET yourself be led around til she finally breaks you off a piece, then you flip the script on her with no.contact type stuff? I wouldnt even care if she bolts after that...I'm out to shag hotter chicks for awhile...need to.get this out my.system.

 

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I guess this boils down too a problem I'm.having with plate theory. RT suggests brutal honesty and I guess this works for some....I've seen it work for my brother. I don't know.what I'm doing wrong, do you have to be at a certain level to pull this off? Usually the plates I'm trying to line up.will be out at the word go if I'm this honest....should I just chalk that up to not that interested?

Also, if one of the reasons for plate theory is to.prevent oneitis....and I don't feel like I'm.capable of getting that again, do I really need plate theory? The other main benefit I see is leveraging women into sex via competition anxiety......that is something I could benefit from....but I can't get the cart rolling. Most likely the women I could get to go.along with me spinning plates, open and honestly, I would have no probs getting sex from them in the first place. This is the quandry I'm in now. A plateau of some sorts it seems. Feel like I'm on the precipice of a real breakthrough though.

 

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Don't think I'm writing in morse code here. Not sure what you mean. Ate the women.average? Yes. I've said that.

I did get a late start in life as far as dating goes but I'm far better off than I was and some.guys I know now. Currently, I average about one or two new lays a month. Really average though. And this is coming from.virtually nothing during late 20s, early 30s. In the last 5 years I've probably been with a good 20 women...and that's a lot for.me considering where I started and some.of those have been relationships.

As I've outlined, quality is my focus.now. quanity is.not a problem but that's the plateau I'm stuck on..Trying to transition to having lots of quanity of.quality....or hell, even a few quality sprinkled in the mix.

 

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Also, if one of the reasons for plate theory is to.prevent oneitis....and I don't feel like I'm.capable of getting that again, do I really need plate theory?

I think plate spinning is the best dating strategy you can follow. Aside from preventing oneitis (although it doesn't always work), it also gives you a less needy, more relaxed vibe since you know you have options. And it can make you appear high value since other women are interested in you. I believe most every guy should at least try plate spinning at one point in his life.

However, it is not the ONLY dating strategy, and I think it is wrong to insist that you must always spin plates. There can be certain situations and women where it might be more effective to use a serial monogamy approach. One example might be a guy who is really busy who only has time to juggle one woman at a time.

I also don't believe in "one size fits all" game, where every guy needs to be a ****y funny player clone of each other. Bring your own personality to it, experiment, and find out what works for you. Different guys have different problems with women, and may need different solutions than the same old stuff you hear repeated here ad nauseum. Not every guy is inclined to smother a girl with too much affection, pedastalize her, and give up all self respect, although you might get that impression reading this forum. For instance, I tend to be too indifferent, although indifference is often peddled here as some sort of magic pill. The important thing is getting out there and experiencing it, which it sounds like you are doing, so kudos.

you are 38, people who are still players at that age, have been players since high school, but that means decades of experience, which means you don`t need random advice on forums, you should be the one teaching the rest of the afc`s

Not everybody is on the same path. Some guys don't get around to dealing with their problems with women until later in life. Also, it is not everyone's ambition to be a "player".

 

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Bump. Saw a.post on RT's site eerily similiar to thread title and my OP.

I'm seriously contemplating either this strategy or a by-the-book AD machine technique. This last girl, per AD's system, I texted back once more after she didn't pick up my call.....suggested another high energy date to which she have plausible yet flaky type reasons to...a non.yes or no. I quickly ejected, said bye, haven't heard from her again and I won't contact her. But I went against AD with the whole trying for sex thing on first date. So I learned that I came off as desperate and or not enough interest. I keep my chin up because I got a 7 in bed and got close.. for the same reason, I realise I got much work to do.

Last weekend I went to local bar with q friend who was dead horny, a he. After being a wallflower for two hours I.decide to TRY to break into a set of younger girls with an off the wall comment.....they stared at me like I was **** lol. I had to laugh it.off. so we.closed the.place out without even a.number. good time though.

This.weekend I.had an ex drive 8 hours to see me, ****ed in a hotel all night and she was on her way the next morn. That's how I like it. Truth is she's a 4 to 5 but will do anything I want, sexually too. I know she would move here in a heartbeat if I said the word nut I don't think is feel good about someone uprooting themselves for someone who feels like he.may be.settling. I think I need a taste of either a super healthy relationship with a girl of equal smv or a few one.offs with some 7-8s to see what I'm really missing.

On a side, I get back into the gym tommorrow.