"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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quick update:

Had a two minute convo last night with two women in their upper thirty's. Really just asked open ended questions and then chimed in where I could relate. It's great how really actually truely listening opens up so many doors to an interesting conversation.

Nothing I can account for tonight, but I'll be sure to pick up atleast a couple tomorrow.

Anyone else with some feedback?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Ok real quick cuz I gotta get to sleep

So today there was a Gospel Choir concert and during the reception after, I was opened by a middle age african american woman (HB 4 Jk she was nice and cool). Neway i used some of the convo skills read about in the bootcamp and was able to transition the conversation from talking about the choir to how she takes the bus everywhere. It was actually a nice conversation.

I think I'm pretty good at conversation, and the djbc's articles were useful. My problem, as it has been forever, is approaching attractive girls. I'm definitely going to have to work up some balls. The library is the perfect place!
 

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What's up guys how come you're not posting your progress? Personally, I get more motivated by reading your guys' experiences.

Here's the deal with me: I've technically had 4 conversations with strangers. I say technically because while they were strangers, I was in a context that made it quite easy to start a conversation (i.e. class, stuck in a line, friend of a friend). Once again, I'm finding keeping the conversation going to be simple enough, just ask questions that show you're listening. I still haven't cold approached anyone >.< argh. I'll get to it, I'm sure.

Btw, finals are coming up so I'm a bit stressed about other things
 

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good job neuro... I know it's tough to spark up conversation period.

I've been having a hard time myself that's why I haven't been posting much. I have a total of two convo's so far. I am definitely slackin. I felt down all day today and didn't have any initiative to go speak with strangers. I have alot of things planned tomorrow so hopefully i'll be more focused. Hope everyone is staying on track
 

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Good luck man! Go for it...you don't have very many days left do you lol?

Btw today in the library I saw this guy getting a random girl's (who I knew) number then 2 min later having a conversation with a random old dude. Man I'm like 95% sure he was doing some sort of b/c or confidence exercise but I didn't talk to him. Shoot I should've then I would have had a good partner to do this sht with.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I work at night, so I don't come into contact with many strangers. I've made the most of the people I do meet and I've finished my 10.

A few of the more interesting ones for me:

- Convo with a random guy at a redskins game...he was absolutely hilarious

- Convo with a middle aged lady. Some people won't shut up if you show you're willing to listen.

- Talked with cute girl behind the counter at a place I like to eat. I pretty much just woke up and looked my worst, but she was interested anyway. Sweet.


This makes me look forward to my new job I'll be getting within the next year. I don't have a problem talking with anyone - my job just limits how many people I actually come in contact with. Okay then. On to the next week!
 

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SO many Cute HBs on campus
SO much AA in my heart.... :/

Approached a girl sitting down yesterday with books in her lap and eyes closed

"were you sleeping"
"ha ha no not really"
blah blah blah ended up talking about a course she's taking that I wanna take. Good I guess, but my goal is to try to get on a more personal level with the convos, not school talk.
 

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AH, finally completed week two. I made a total of eleven conversations. Met some pretty cool folks along the way too. I can definitely get used to this. Some of you already completed and moved forward so that's cool. Congrats guys I hope we're all having alot of fun with this. Workin on getting the week three post up right now..
 

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Week 2 Day 7

Today I'm spending the day in the library, studying, and using approaches as a "reward" for solving sample problems for the final.

For my second approach of the day, I had the worst fear (I actually felt my legs go wobbly as I walked over) trying to talk to this HB7. Fast forward 5-7 min and I'm back in my seat, regretful as f**k I didn't number close :rolleyes: . She was sending me plenty of IOIs and I'm pretty sure she's disappointed I didn't get her number. Still, it felt good pushing through my AA. Props to Rasputin for telling me to do it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How're you guys doing?

I was kinda taking a break on the b/c for finals but I still managed to talk a lot with the HB6 that was sitting next to me in the library and get her facebook as well as a black HB6 (but not my "dating" type) when I went to get food.

So finals are over and for some reason i feel crappy. Maybe it's because of the caffeine and lack of sleep. I figure the best way to get over this is to take a nap then go out and approach!
 

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hmmm yesterday was good I was at the library with my bud. I bounced my approach anxeity off him then said "screw it" and went and approached a 3 set looking like they were studying.

"You girls studying hard?" *sit down* "Or hardly studying?"

Corny as f*ck I know but they were pretty receptive. Talked, could've easily number closed but they were too young for me.

Then went up to the computer section and opened the HB6 sitting next to me. She's married, but getting divorced, has a kid from an ex-fiance, her bro just got out of jail 3 days ago. Got her number (nice huh lol). I'll call her tmrw. what should I say to her when I call her, considering she's older, and mebbe a bit crazy? I just wanna see where it goes if I play my cards right...

Today I went to do some convos at the mall but I didn't get any long convos. I tired to use openers ( like opion thing), but I realize now that I just need to say hi. TMRW i'm gonna go out there and talk to some HB's I'm excited lol.

How're you guys doin?
 

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Good to see you're still in this, Neuro. I've been doing mine too. Some of my faves so far:

MILF cutting my hair: She decided that while I'm inside the barbershop, I am her husband. Gave me her number on her card. Sweet.

HB9.5 receptionist at hair place: I was sexual with her immediately as I was paying/leaving. She was taking care of my credit card and I showed her the cup marked "Pens" and said "Don't you just love when you read something and it looks like something else?" She blushed/laughed, then excitedly told me about all the times she does it, etc. I unfortunately was in a huge hurry to not be late for work (biggest infraction at my job). So I told her to enjoy her penis cup and have a great day. She kept saying "bye" "have a great day" "see you later" etc, trying to get my attention as I blew a kiss to the MILF who cut my hair. I waved back and smiled on my way out.

Also, I work out 3x a week, so I've decided to bump that up to cardio every day in addition to the times I lift. I'm pretty close to having abs, and I'm on a mission to get them. Just to prove to myself that I can.

There have been others, but they weren't that hot/notable to me.

Still getting some regularly from HB6.5, and making progress with HB9.
 

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Neurosponge said:
what should I say to her when I call her, considering she's older, and mebbe a bit crazy? I just wanna see where it goes if I play my cards right...
Everyone likes to do this differently, but I keep my invitations simple and to the point. I call her up, ask her what she's up to, ask her a little about whatever she's doing, then get to the point and tell her either "I'm doing (activity) at (time) - Come with me!" or something like "Let's do (activity) at (time)!" Don't ask. Make it something you find fun. Something YOU wanna do, and something YOU will be comfortable doing. After she accepts I say awesome, I've gotta go do (whatever you're busy with - don't say video games or something) See you then!

If she counter-offers with another time I take it if it's convenient to me. Don't bend over backwards trying to find things this girl will like. You'll come off as desperate and if you do get the date then you'll end up doing something borrrrring.


You may be really nervous and that's ok. I know I was at first. Just do it anyway. Practice is the only thing that will make it less awkward in the future. If things work out, great. Go have fun. If not, no biggie. Get more numbers!
 

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Also, I work out 3x a week, so I've decided to bump that up to cardio every day in addition to the times I lift. I'm pretty close to having abs, and I'm on a mission to get them. Just to prove to myself that I can.
Haha yeah abs are a total btch for me, but I'm not motivated enough to do straight cardio ( I swim a little and play basketball), so I don't think I'll ever get a 6-pack with little body fat on top.

So I called that married HB6 and invited her to come to a concert my friend is putting on on sunday and she said cool but told me to call her no earlier than 3 pm tomorrow so she can check her "calender."

after we hang up she texts me

HB: Were you asking me on a date
Me: haha gosh no I just wanna get to know u better and celebrate winter break (she's goin to beauty school).
HB: Why me?
Me: shoot what's up with all the hard questions, Are you a college at which I have to apply? :p
No reply after

Hope I didn't screw that up...buuut at the same time I'm not THAT worried about it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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*sigh* I think I'm taking an extra day of 2 on week 3.

Had a party at my house last night, was very much a sausage fest (total of 7 girls throughout the night). Still, everyone had fun cuz the music was bumpin, the alch was plenty, and the vibes were good.

I think I'm gonna have a holiday party soon, but this time, I need much more HBs to pack the dance floor! Any advice?
 

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I think I'm gonna have a holiday party soon, but this time, I need much more HBs to pack the dance floor! Any advice?
Ask your friends that are girls to bring more girls?

Or you could go with a fun theme that will attract more people which means more girls. Have an "anything but clothes" party. Nobody's allowed in if they're wearing any form of clothing; everything that one wears must be made out of something that isn't clothes. These parties are the best because you'll see girls make skimpy dresses out of bubble wrap and stuff. Plus it's fun to see how creative everyone gets. :)

Or have a couples party where everyone has to come as a couple. You're guaranteed that your single friends are going to bring girls that are single who you can pursue. :)
 

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Wtf!

...is wrong with me?

Yesterday I went to the bustling mall downtown. Early on, I walked up behind an HB8 walking through the mall and had a good convo about where she's from, school etc. Then in the middle of us laughing at something I'm like "ok nice talking to you" and I eject. Should've # closed right? But at least it was a good convo.

Fast forward 3 hours later and I have talked to 0 more chicks (well, 1, but she hardly counts). I just froze up. I walked around the mall with confident body posture and did jack all in terms of approaching and actual being confident.

Today was a repeat. Early on, I sat next to HB 6.5 on a bench and had a convo, wasn't as great as yesterday's, but she was obviously interested and then I ejected. Again, after her, I didn't approach neone else.

Plz can someone give me some sort of advice or motivation so that when I go tomorrow, I do what I actually want to do and approach at least 10 of the hundreds of hotties at the mall?
 

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Week 3 Day...13?

Back at the mall, I try getting over my AA by asking directions to a certain store. It was pretty funny when I asked a woman where Macy's was and she pointed straight ahead to the giant Macy's store sign. I laughed sheepishly and ran into a random store.

So that worked all right then I decided to use the line that I read in the DJ bible "Hi I'm conducting a social experiment in order to overcome my fear of talking to attractive women." I did this on two women, and both were really receptive. The first, HB 8, was eating salad and was like "wow, how can I help," she invited me to sit down with her and we talked.

The second, HB 7, woman I used it on also smiled and opened up and I ended up date closing her. We were gonna go to this techno club in the city but decided it would be too far, then we tried going to a few local bar/lounges, but I'm underage heh. Soo ended up # closing. I won't call her because a) she's too old for me b) she's in the middle of a divorce c) she's weird (didn't want me touching her AT ALL, not even a little tap on her hand)

Basically that "social experiment" opener is another way of saying "I'm a bit of a pvssy so I will put myself in your friend zone, but at the same time I am somewhat trying to become a man so I have SOME endearing value."

With the addition to a few "buying a present for my sister" openers on some store clerks, I had a pretty successful day. Not as successful as I should be, but I'm starting to have fun...

Tomorrow I'll try to do the same thing, and next week should be real fun :cool:
 

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Ok I'm back up on my grind 8)

I don't know what happened to you guys, but it's still winter...and we're still in the Boot Camp!

I've been SWAMPED ever since New Years (House got trashed, then school starts, move in to a fraternity, lotsa hw), but I'm ready to get back into the groove of things.

Unfortunately I don't have all day to loiter and pep talk myself into getting rejections, so I'm going to have to be very spontaneous and work in my approaches throughout the day (walking to class, lunch, etc.).

Boy, I got a lot of school and extracurricular work to do, plus I want to get back in to working out. I'm telling myself I'm too busy to do the BootCamp, but in reality 1 rejection takes like 7 min at the most. I just gotta pepper my day with rejections and maybe a few numbers!

Wish me luck guys and any motivational advice/tips are really appreciated.

Neuro

P.S. Everyone should read the book How to Win Friends and Influence People. PM me for info on an e-copy
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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