"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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This took place about 3 days ago. Basically, a couple weeks ago, I had the idea to search Seeking Arrangement for the keywords "Hooters" and "Winghouse" and I got to messaging a few of the girls. I finally got one of them over the other day.

She was really nervous to come over. She doesn't do this all the time. She said usually when she meets guys, it's out for a movie or dinner, and then back to the house if they get along. She actually told the Uber driver to wait outside the whole time she was in there. She was also messaging her friend, who eventually drove here and waited outside in her car. She asked if I could have alcohol waiting for her. She requested Hennessey, but I already had a bottle of tequilla so we used that. She actually asked me if there was a roofie in the tequilla. I pointed out the fact that the bottle was unopened, but she said that since I'm a "handyman," that maybe I knew how to get one in there lol.

But after maybe 15-20 minutes of talking, she loosened up, and it wasn't because of the alcohol because I looked at the shot glass after she left and she barely took one sip.

So we went back to my bedroom. I requested that she wear her Winghouse uniform, and she did.

I told her about the bionic d1ck beforehand, and that's what broke the ice talking about sex. I honestly wasn't sure if this girl was going to have sex with me seeing how paranoid/nervous she was when she first came over. She eventually asked me if I use protection, so that's how I knew that she still planned on doing this, and that it wasn't just some "meet and greet" type deal.

So then we had sex. I made her cvm 3 times back-to-back-to-back with no breaks. She was in disbelief. She said she had never done that before and that most guys can't even make her cvm once. She was utterly exhausted after maybe 20-25 minutes of sex. So she started giving me head.

She said next time, she would do oral without a condom if I could show her I was clean of STD's with test results. She also said that next time, she would be willing to use the deepthroat spray that I have.

She also said that she wants to take me out for drinks sometime. She hasn't messaged me since she left, but that's not to say she won't. I could text her right now and I'm sure she would respond. She works 2 jobs. One at Winghouse and one at a hookah lounge.

So to recap: I gave a Winghouse girl the best sex of her life.

This was not free.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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She asked if I could have alcohol waiting for her. She requested Hennessey, but I already had a bottle of tequilla so we used that. She actually asked me if there was a roofie in the tequilla.
Jesus, these chicks operate in a pretty dark world, don't they?

"Get the alcohol lined up to numb my potential mental trauma in advance, also please don't drug me."

I take it she was joking about the date r*pe scenario rather than being genuinely creeped out.

So then we had sex. I made her cvm 3 times back-to-back-to-back with no breaks. She was in disbelief. She said she had never done that before and that most guys can't even make her cvm once. She was utterly exhausted after maybe 20-25 minutes of sex. So she started giving me head.
The Terminator dildo works as intended then! I hope you said "C*M WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE."

Actually...don't say that. Lol.

She also said that she wants to take me out for drinks sometime. She hasn't messaged me since she left, but that's not to say she won't. I could text her right now and I'm sure she would respond. She works 2 jobs. One at Winghouse and one at a hookah lounge.

So to recap: I gave a Winghouse girl the best sex of her life.

This was not free.
Well, I was going to make some smart-a*s comment about how women always have the best sex of their life when they're paid in cash, but it sounds like:

1 - You did the whole sex thing well.
2 - You might actually get a date if you get out of this whole paying-for-it mentality.

I'll save my congrats for the actual date you're presumably now going to try and get with her for next week?
 
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Jesus, these chicks operate in a pretty dark world, don't they?

"Get the alcohol lined up to numb my potential mental trauma in advance, also please don't drug me."

I take it she was joking about the date r*pe scenario rather than being genuinely creeped out.



The Terminator dildo works as intended then! I hope you said "C*M WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE."

Actually...don't say that. Lol.



Well, I was going to make some smart-a*s comment about how women always have the best sex of their life when they're paid in cash, but it sounds like:

1 - You did the whole sex thing well.
2 - You might actually get a date if you get out of this whole paying-for-it mentality.

I'll save my congrats for the actual date you're presumably now going to try and get with her for next week?
Why would I want to go on a date after already having sex with her? If anything, I would rather have her over again.

I really think "going on dates" is extremely overrated.

If anything, she would have to drag me out somewhere and I would hope that the night would end back at my house.

After fvcking her, why would I be motivated to sit across a table from someone?
 

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Why would I want to go on a date after already having sex with her? If anything, I would rather have her over again.

I really think "going on dates" is extremely overrated.

If anything, she would have to drag me out somewhere and I would hope that the night would end back at my house.

After fvcking her, why would I be motivated to sit across a table from someone?
Depends if you want it to be a sustainable thing and if you want to keep paying. Getting dates with her could transform it from business to a free thing. But most women will tire of just sex over and over even if it's really good sex.

Arguably it depends on the women and her tolerance for a purely physical relationship (she will be more tolerant of it if it's an FWB type thing), but it might sour for you too.

Dating gives you that human connection you might not get purely through sex.
 
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This took place about 3 days ago. Basically, a couple weeks ago, I had the idea to search Seeking Arrangement for the keywords "Hooters" and "Winghouse" and I got to messaging a few of the girls. I finally got one of them over the other day.

She was really nervous to come over. She doesn't do this all the time. She said usually when she meets guys, it's out for a movie or dinner, and then back to the house if they get along. She actually told the Uber driver to wait outside the whole time she was in there. She was also messaging her friend, who eventually drove here and waited outside in her car. She asked if I could have alcohol waiting for her. She requested Hennessey, but I already had a bottle of tequilla so we used that. She actually asked me if there was a roofie in the tequilla. I pointed out the fact that the bottle was unopened, but she said that since I'm a "handyman," that maybe I knew how to get one in there lol.

But after maybe 15-20 minutes of talking, she loosened up, and it wasn't because of the alcohol because I looked at the shot glass after she left and she barely took one sip.

So we went back to my bedroom. I requested that she wear her Winghouse uniform, and she did.

I told her about the bionic d1ck beforehand, and that's what broke the ice talking about sex. I honestly wasn't sure if this girl was going to have sex with me seeing how paranoid/nervous she was when she first came over. She eventually asked me if I use protection, so that's how I knew that she still planned on doing this, and that it wasn't just some "meet and greet" type deal.

So then we had sex. I made her cvm 3 times back-to-back-to-back with no breaks. She was in disbelief. She said she had never done that before and that most guys can't even make her cvm once. She was utterly exhausted after maybe 20-25 minutes of sex. So she started giving me head.

She said next time, she would do oral without a condom if I could show her I was clean of STD's with test results. She also said that next time, she would be willing to use the deepthroat spray that I have.

She also said that she wants to take me out for drinks sometime. She hasn't messaged me since she left, but that's not to say she won't. I could text her right now and I'm sure she would respond. She works 2 jobs. One at Winghouse and one at a hookah lounge.

So to recap: I gave a Winghouse girl the best sex of her life.

This was not free.
I forgot to add that she told me I should be a porn star.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You might actually get a date if you get out of this whole paying-for-it mentality.
He's said repeatedly he doesn't want to date. Besides, he had that thread asking about how to be mean to girls, like taking them out in his car and dumping them off in the middle of nowhere. Most likely the girls are better off not dating him anyway.
 
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He's said repeatedly he doesn't want to date. Besides, he had that thread asking about how to be mean to girls, like taking them out in his car and dumping them off in the middle of nowhere. Most likely the girls are better off not dating him anyway.
Do you actually think that sitting across a table from someone and talking to them is really getting to know them?

If you want to get to know a girl, live with her.
 

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Which pics did you use to attract her online?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I posted the ones that you edited.

But I think it was the money that attracted her.
Did you give her money?

Let's understand what happened here:

* RichardtheFrog joins SoSuave on May 25, 2017, and, since posts 4,280 times looking for ways to have sex for free without directly paying the girl. In the past 12 months, Richard the Frog has not had sex with any girl without directly giving her money;

* RichardtheFrog meets Guru1000, who gives Richard six items to work on, two of which are professional photos and style;

* Richard hires a style consultant and professional photographer;

* Guru1000 assists Richard with his best three pics, all scoring 70% - 80% attractiveness on photofeeler;

* Richard posts the three pics on SA and within one month meets and fvcks a girl who Richard does not pay directly;

* Richard high-fives himself but gives no thanks to Guru1000.

Expected.
 

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Lol at this thread, so now people are bragging about paying for puss? Good lord the lows this site has reached no wonder I'm rarely on here
Yeah...it's quite a different world here at Sosuave than what it used to be.

When I first joined,just the mere thought of sleeping with a prostitute would get you banned,lol.

Either that,or you'd get so much flack and people coming down on you,that they'd basically shame you into leaving.

Now,prostitutes,trannies......hell...I even once heard someone mention a cousin....it's all a free-for-all now. If it moves,fvck it.....that seems to be the narrative now a days.
 

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Yeah...it's quite a different world here at Sosuave than what it used to be.

When I first joined,just the mere thought of sleeping with a prostitute would get you banned,lol.

Either that,or you'd get so much flack and people coming down on you,that they'd basically shame you into leaving.

Now,prostitutes,trannies......hell...I even once heard someone mention a cousin....it's all a free-for-all now. If it moves,fvck it.....that seems to be the narrative now a days.
Who decides the narrative of sosuave?

I mean, we did have a quote on here saying "I feel like a child molester".

What is the limit....
 

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Who decides the narrative of sosuave?
I'd say probably the MAJORITY of the members does.



I mean, we did have a quote on here saying "I feel like a child molester"
Uhh...when did "WE" have a quote on Sosuave saying that???
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'd say probably the MAJORITY of the members does.
Yeah one would hope. Then we have the fans of prostitutes and strippers...

Uhh...when did "WE" have a quote on Sosuave saying that???
We didn't say it but we sure as hell read it in that two page thread about speaking to a girl online from you know who
 
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Did you give her money?

Let's understand what happened here:

* RichardtheFrog joins SoSuave on May 25, 2017, and, since posts 4,280 times looking for ways to have sex for free without directly paying the girl. In the past 12 months, Richard the Frog has not had sex with any girl without directly giving her money;

* RichardtheFrog meets Guru1000, who gives Richard six items to work on, two of which are professional photos and style;

* Richard hires a style consultant and professional photographer;

* Guru1000 assists Richard with his best three pics, all scoring 70% - 80% attractiveness on photofeeler;

* Richard posts the three pics on SA and within one month meets and fvcks a girl who Richard does not pay directly;

* Richard high-fives himself but gives no thanks to Guru1000.

Expected.
I paid the Winghouse girl. But not the 19 year old.

Okay thanks for the recommendations.

But I still don't get any quality matches on the free OLD sites.
 
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Yeah...it's quite a different world here at Sosuave than what it used to be.

When I first joined,just the mere thought of sleeping with a prostitute would get you banned,lol.

Either that,or you'd get so much flack and people coming down on you,that they'd basically shame you into leaving.

Now,prostitutes,trannies......hell...I even once heard someone mention a cousin....it's all a free-for-all now. If it moves,fvck it.....that seems to be the narrative now a days.
This is the first time this girl came over to someone's house to have sex for money. Usually, "sugar daddies" take her out on dates first.

She also works 2 jobs.

Did your dad ever give your mom even one penny?

Show us all the hot girls you fvck for free.
 

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Who decides the narrative of sosuave?

I mean, we did have a quote on here saying "I feel like a child molester".

What is the limit....
Well, I'd say the "narrative" is dictated by the majority of members and a consensus of opinion. And the limit is the law, common sense and decency.

This is a site about seducing grown women, not being some sort of sex-obsessed creepy p*edo lunatic.
 

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Richard posts the three pics on SA
Isn't Seeking Arrangement a sugar daddy/thinly veiled escort site? Not sure I would compare that your basic OLD.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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