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Went to Winghouse last night. Got drunk, but took notes. So there's like tons of guys hooting and hollering about the college football game. The girls don't care about the game at all. So what DO they care about? What excites them in life? Surely, it's not working every week.

It's easy to see why they wouldn't be impressed with these guys. The guys are drunk, unintelligent, and probably unreliable and dishonest as well. Not all men are quality.

The fact that I'm different from the guys yelling at the TV must mean something.

Perhaps it is necessary to connect with them on an existential level. They have seen 100 million people in their life. There must be a sense that the connection is real. And that's not to say that the girls are special or that what's in their head is anything spectacular.
 

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It's easy to see why they wouldn't be impressed with these guys. The guys are drunk, unintelligent, and probably unreliable and dishonest as well. Not all men are quality.

The fact that I'm different from the guys yelling at the TV must mean something.
Yeah, it means you are a weirdo. Most men like football, especially the college championship game, which was last night and you didn't even bother to mention. You probably didn't even realize. It's a big night for football. I'm not saying that you HAVE to like football, but if you don't, then stay away from WingHouse on college championship night. That would be like me going to a Magic the Gathering tournament so I can call everyone there a dork.

The team I root for is the one team who beat both of the teams who played last night during the season. I could have talked to anybody in that bar. There is both a deep camaraderie among fans of the same team, as well as a strong rivalry that is almost always friendly. Strangers become your friend almost immediately when you can talk football. If you ever see a beautiful woman wearing an SEC school logo, the #1 best thing to open her with will be the slogan/war cry for that school. I'm typing that for the sake of other guys here, since you are above us lowly football people.

If you want to impress women, you have to be in your element. Whatever your element is, it isn't sports, so don't expect to be the don juan of the sports bar. It's not going to happen. Find someplace you shine. I'm sure there are how-to-get-rich seminars by authors pitching their latest financial books, some of them even about real estate. Go to one of those, and you're not going to feel like such an outsider. And yes, it will be mostly old men, but they are usually in hotels that have a lot of young female employees.
 
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Yeah, it means you are a weirdo. Most men like football, especially the college championship game, which was last night and you didn't even bother to mention. You probably didn't even realize. It's a big night for football. I'm not saying that you HAVE to like football, but if you don't, then stay away from WingHouse on college championship night. That would be like me going to a Magic the Gathering tournament so I can call everyone there a dork.

The team I root for is the one team who beat both of the teams who played last night during the season. I could have talked to anybody in that bar. There is both a deep camaraderie among fans of the same team, as well as a strong rivalry that is almost always friendly. Strangers become your friend almost immediately when you can talk football. If you ever see a beautiful woman wearing an SEC school logo, the #1 best thing to open her with will be the slogan/war cry for that school. I'm typing that for the sake of other guys here, since you are above us lowly football people.

If you want to impress women, you have to be in your element. Whatever you element is, it isn't sports, so don't expect to be the don juan of the sports bar. It's not going to happen. Find someplace you shine. I'm sure there are how-to-get-rich seminars by authors pitching their latest financial books, some of them even about real estate. Go to one of those, and you're not going to feel like such an outsider. And yes, it will be mostly old men, but they are usually in hotels that have a lot of young female employees.
Yea I know it was the championship game. So you like Auburn then? But Auburn lost to Georgia as well. I was obsessive about televised sports as a kid. It's a hobby for children that you will probably never grow out of. If you don't understand that televised sports are not important in life, then I don't know what to tell you.

I used to love the Miami Hurricanes. I actually cried a few tears when they lost to Ohio State in 2002. I was 15 years old. Key word = 15 years old. A kid.

Btw, watching sports on t.v. doesn't make you an athlete lol. It makes you a lazy television addict.

And are you saying you could have made rapport with a bunch of GUYS at the Winghouse bar? Lol. All the best to you if that's your goal.
 

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If you don't understand that televised sports are not important in life, then I don't know what to tell you..
If you don't understand that your relationships with all human beings are important, which is the real handicap of narcissism, then you're never going to get anywhere with women.

By the way, try that seminar advice. I used to work for a company doing stock market seminars, and I think you would have a very different experience than a sports bar.
 
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If you don't understand that your relationships with all human beings are important, which is the real handicap of narcissism, then you're never going to get anywhere with women.

By the way, try that seminar advice. I used to work for a company doing stock market seminars, and I think you would have a very different experience than a sports bar.
None of what you said addresses the fact that the girls working didn't care at all about the game. Or what they do care about, if not that.
 

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The girls you say didn't care about the game were WORKING, they cared about the tips from those guys you seem to distain. And in actuality the guys who were enjoying life probably have a LTR or at least someone to sleep next to when they want without paying for the privilege. They probably don't have to pretend to be a house flipping guru (who has never really flipped a single house yet) and have a real life. Maybe you should take lessons how to deal with real people in real situations. On second thought, don't bother as what you are doing seems to be working so well for you....
 
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The girls you say didn't care about the game were WORKING, they cared about the tips from those guys you seem to distain. And in actuality the guys who were enjoying life probably have a LTR or at least someone to sleep next to when they want without paying for the privilege. They probably don't have to pretend to be a house flipping guru (who has never really flipped a single house yet) and have a real life. Maybe you should take lessons how to deal with real people in real situations. On second thought, don't bother as what you are doing seems to be working so well for you....
I don't pay to sleep next to anyone. It's just fvck and leave.

About house flipping = ask me in a year, then again in 2 years. Or don't because it's not the point of the forum.

Maybe if I bought a Ferrari and painted it orange? I wonder what would happen. Might not help at all.

In any event, they didn't care about the football game. That was the point of the post. And to figure out what they do care about.
 

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Btw, watching sports on t.v. doesn't make you an athlete lol. It makes you a lazy television addict.
Naw, I was an athlete. Fenced epee in the national championships several times. BTW I'm an Oklahoma and Oklahoma State fan. Watched the National championship football game. It was a good game. What have you done....I flip houses and I'm a convict.....but you are still working on your first one.
 

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Naw, I was an athlete. Fenced epee in the national championships several times. BTW I'm an Oklahoma and Oklahoma State fan. Watched the National championship football game. It was a good game. What have you done....I flip houses and I'm a convict.....but you are still working on your first one.
BOOMER!
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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So I tried to make a post asking what girls care about as opposed to the completely unimportant football game that was on TV.

And nobody understood my point because apparently you're not on my level of intelligence? You are one of the fools stuffing their face with food and beer while glued to the television like the gladiator that you are?

How could everyone have missed my point here?
 

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We watch football to get time away from women (or to be rudely interrupted by them), not to chat them up.

I'm not bothered what a woman is thinking during.

This guy doesn't understand people in general.
This!!!

I really enjoy my time with my guy friends. I love football season and LOVE going to games, tailgating... sneaking whisky into the stadium, screaming at the field. I'm not a big fan of watching games on TV... being at the game is SOOOOO much better.

I also love my time with women... but what I loving doing with them is VERY different.

I guess it would be so much easier if I was gay. Since I'm not, I compartmentalize my life, but like all well adjusted normal men.
 
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To answer your question...

Some people (especially some 20something women) go out just to go out. Sometimes they feel “like a loser” for staying home on a night when many others (such as their friends) may be out. So yes, you might have a fair number of non-sports fan girls at a sports bar sometimes during a big game. It’s normal.


1. 20something = I’ll feel like a loser if I stay home and DON’T go out.

2. 30something = I can go out or stay home. EITHER way is fine.

3. 40something (male) = I’d like to go out once in a while but will be considered a loser if I DO go out LOL.

(Just joking with the above.)
 
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To answer your question...

Some people (especially some 20something women) go out just to go out. Sometimes they feel “like a loser” for staying home on a night when many others (such as their friends) may be out. So yes, you might have a fair number of non-sports fan girls at a sports bar sometimes during a big game. It’s normal.


1. 20something = I’ll feel like a loser if I stay home and DON’T go out.

2. 30something = I can go out or stay home. EITHER way is fine.

3. 40something (male) = I’d like to go out once in a while but will be considered a loser if I DO go out LOL.

(Just joking with the above.)
I was talking about the bartenders were the ones who didn't care about it.

And it's been established that they don't care about televised football, but what DO they care about?
 
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Why do you care? You claim to only want them for sex? Why not just pay for it? Too poor?
Pay a bartender for sex?

It would be nice to get it for free if such a thing is possible. What else should I want them for? I don't think they have anything else that I need.

Either way, still nobody has answered the question.

I assume they care about their own lives. Maybe their school if they're in it. Maybe their pet cat or dog. Or maybe they have kids or a boyfriend/husband at home. Or maybe they don't.

If I was perfectly content fvcking Backpage hookers, there would be no point of me being here. I'm not content with that, but it may actually be preferable to a relationship where I'm forced to be monogamous lest I be labeled a "cheater" when she may have been cheating and lying to me the whole time. All until she grows bored one day for no reason. And hookers are probably cheaper than most marriages.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Yeah, i love football.

Well, "soccer". It's a bit different than the version you colonials enjoy. But not that much.

Op can't just enjoy something for what it is. He's thirsty as fvck.
I got hooked on 'soccer' when I lived in Germany in the mid-90s. Before then I'd seen it on TV and didn't really like it. In the US we have 3 major sports that suck the air out of the room (Baseball, Football, and Basketball), add to that Hockey which is popular in the North-East and Mid-West US.

You MUST go to a 'soccer' game in a place where it is popular, and if you are an American that has never been exposed to it, you MUST have some mates that grew up with it to explain what is happening at least for the first few games. You miss so much of what is going on when you are only focused on the part of the game on the TV screen. You can not see plays develop. But the game environment is most of the fun. When I got back to the States I went to a MLS game in Washington DC, there were only about 15,000 at the game and it was not nearly as electric.

But it works both ways, I took a Aussie friend to an American Football game a couple of years ago, he had never seen a game, other than bits and pieces of it at a couple of "Super Bowl" parties where he is from. He was a rugby player and on the first play he said "How the fvck can they do that! I've never seen more blatant interference." I said, "What are you talking about... it was a run play?" We had a cultural divide of what 'interference' is, in American Football, you can not touch or disrupt a player before he catches a forward pass, in Rugby... 'interference' is blocking in front of the runner. In rugby, blocking is illegal, in American football it is expected. I spent the rest of the game between plays, explaining to him what was going on, he enjoyed that a lot more... and all the fans around us where buying him beers ragged on him busting his football cherry... I have to say that was the most fun I ever had at a Saints game. When he came back last October he wanted to go to more games, but said he tried watching 'Football' on TV and it just wasn't the same, and I completely agree with him.
 

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I got hooked on 'soccer' when I lived in Germany in the mid-90s. Before then I'd seen it on TV and didn't really like it. In the US we have 3 major sports that suck the air out of the room (Baseball, Football, and Basketball), add to that Hockey which is popular in the North-East and Mid-West US.

You MUST go to a 'soccer' game in a place where it is popular, and if you are an American that has never been exposed to it, you MUST have some mates that grew up with it to explain what is happening at least for the first few games. You miss so much of what is going on when you are only focused on the part of the game on the TV screen. You can not see plays develop. But the game environment is most of the fun. When I got back to the States I went to a MLS game in Washington DC, there were only about 15,000 at the game and it was not nearly as electric.

But it works both ways, I took a Aussie friend to an American Football game a couple of years ago, he had never seen a game, other than bits and pieces of it at a couple of "Super Bowl" parties where he is from. He was a rugby player and on the first play he said "How the fvck can they do that! I've never seen more blatant interference." I said, "What are you talking about... it was a run play?" We had a cultural divide of what 'interference' is, in American Football, you can not touch or disrupt a player before he catches a forward pass, in Rugby... 'interference' is blocking in front of the runner. In rugby, blocking is illegal, in American football it is expected. I spent the rest of the game between plays, explaining to him what was going on, he enjoyed that a lot more... and all the fans around us where buying him beers ragged on him busting his football cherry... I have to say that was the most fun I ever had at a Saints game. When he came back last October he wanted to go to more games, but said he tried watching 'Football' on TV and it just wasn't the same, and I completely agree with him.
There is a whole atmosphere to going to a game, especially where it's popular and culturally a passion.

I don't follow sport, tv never made it for me. However give me tickets and I will go. It's always a blast going to the game, being there physically even when you have no idea what's going on in the game. It's the atmosphere, the passion that surrounds you that make it better.

You can link this to dating.. being there and participating is much more enjoyable than being on the seat as a distant observer.

Also you can enjoy it more when you are sharing a common passion with a group aka friends. The crew aka group empower you more, it's like a team
 
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