"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Wing Likes To Shag Big and/or Old Women

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OK, I've known my wingman for a while now, over a year. We're both real busy with work related matters, but work slows down during the summer months and we always have a blast hitting the streets. Here's my issue. My wing/friend is willing to have sex with women, who are to put it frankly, noticeably overweight and or much older than he is. I'm talking women who are fifteen to twenty years older than he is, and girls who are well beyond thick and fall into the straight up fat category.

He keeps telling me that he will only hook up with women who are at least an 8. But, when we go out, I see him groping, being groped by, approaching women who are middle aged, flabby or both. He will then tell me later these girls were hot. Therefore, technically speaking he is hooking up with girls who are 8+ on his scale, ex post facto. I know there's such a thing as beer goggles, but he must be using an astronomy telescope instead.

What concerns me is that his standards are starting to affect mine, and I'm starting to let girls who I used to consider substandard get further with me than I would normally let them. I now am beginning to see some pretty old birds as 'doable.' I'm also starting to let my standards slide in terms of body mass index.

I've occasionally pulled him out of conversations or persuaded him to leave girls who are just way below any conceivable standards, girls he's been ready to bang. But he keeps telling me: 'I'm only going for the hottest girls, and you have to hold me to that.' And then he'll hook up with some wildebeast which would lead many men to shoot a tranquilizer dart in self defense.

How do I handle this situation?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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We are good friends so I like to hang out with him. Yes, I do have other wings but all have trouble opening and are worse than he is. Also, I usually crash at his place, so I wind up having to stick with him. I'm sure there are guys here who can identify with this.
 

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One thing I should add is that my wing WILL talk to hot girls. But ONLY if I open the set and get the girl in state first. Once he sees me in a hot set, he instinctively runs in AMOG's me and tries to monpolize conversation with the hotter girl. This often gets us both blown out in the process. So he CAN talk to hot girls, but only if I open them and get them in state first. It's clearly a self esteem issue.

So, he will definitely not take one for the team. His usefulness in this regard is dubious at best. Usually, I have to wing for him in a set with several women who are below average in looks.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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KillaPetehog said:
Dude, this is YOUR opportunity!

man, the wingman's job is "to take one for the team"

He's the one who's supposed to distract the ugleezy girl. ...
Exactly! He's the best type of wingman, a Kamikaze! He'll go after those big ugly suckers willingly! Let him seduce the trolls at the gate that typically guard the fair princesses! :up:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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lol,if he's black,dominican or puerto rican ..let him be.He's not gonna ever change.

What do you need a wingman for anyways?
 

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Im dominican,trust me I know...
 

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This was a funny post. Anyway, have a good time your wingman is, and he is getting laid in the process. What a concept.

Don't let his actions stop you from enjoying yourself.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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