Viper
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Yeah, mods, you can lock this thread. I'm tired of it and just think I would be better off finding a way myself. It's not really going anywhere.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Originally posted by Viper
Yeah, mods, you can lock this thread. I'm tired of it and just think I would be better off finding a way myself. It's not really going anywhere.
No, look, I've read all your advice. First of all, I have friends, they say "Sup Mike" and talk to me, but I don't really know them well enough to ask them if they want to chill during the weekend and I can tell that they don't see me as one of the guys and to tell you the truth, I don't think it would bother me if it stayed that way. Secondly, the only reason I would be making friends is so that I have social proof so that girls will like me, social proof so some girl can like me? Hah, I even feel stupid writing this, if I want friends, I'll get REAL friends and I'll let those friends come naturally(Not from random approaches), not get friends so that I can have social proof for some girl who won't even like me. I don't even care about girls or getting friends write now, I care about improving Mike, improving myself, before I get to know people, I have to get to know myself, I mean really, if you asked me what type of personally I had, I couldn't look you in the eye and tell you. Before improving conversation, before getting girls, I want to improve myself. But I guess making more friends is the only way to do that from what your saying familyguyfan? Eh, I don't really see how I'll improve if I start making a bunch of friends.Originally posted by familyguyfan
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It's your own fault it's not going anywhere. You're just digging yourself a hole and you're rejecting our attempts to pull you out.
Give up, hell no. I'm just not looking social proof right now. I'm looking to improve myself, my attitude, my drive, my motivation, my ambition and it since it looks like no one hear can do anything to help me with that, looks like I'll have to do that myself. Once I'm more confident about myself, friends will come naturally, I'll have a better outlook on life, I won't care about having better conversational skills, I'll just go with the flow, this isn't a one day process, so I guess I'll start pondering ways on how I can improve these things now.Originally posted by Mctwist4
Your hopeless man. No one here is going to feel sorry for you. You don't even want to better yourself. You just like to complain. I'm done replying to your threads. Change your attitude or give up.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Familyguyfan just spent so much time writing that post up...and I agreed with all of it...and thats all you can say? What's wrong with you...? I been trying to be nice this whole time to you. No one's this nice to me when I have my own problems. I have to just toughen up and do something...Originally posted by Viper
Yeah, mods, you can lock this thread. I'm tired of it and just think I would be better off finding a way myself. It's not really going anywhere.
I hate to break it to you, but those guys you say hey to aren't your friends. They're your acquaintances. But guess what. You can make them your friends. You can't make excuses and say that you don't know any of them well enough to do anything with them on the weekends. How do you think you ever get to know anyone? You call them up and hang out with them.Originally posted by Viper
No, look, I've read all your advice. First of all, I have friends, they say "Sup Mike" and talk to me, but I don't really know them well enough to ask them if they want to chill during the weekend and I can tell that they don't see me as one of the guys and to tell you the truth, I don't think it would bother me if it stayed that way. Secondly, the only reason I would be making friends is so that I have social proof so that girls will like me, social proof so some girl can like me? Hah, I even feel stupid writing this, if I want friends, I'll get REAL friends and I'll let those friends come naturally(Not from random approaches), not get friends so that I can have social proof for some girl who won't even like me. I don't even care about girls or getting friends write now, I care about improving Mike, improving myself, before I get to know people, I have to get to know myself, I mean really, if you asked me what type of personally I had, I couldn't look you in the eye and tell you. Before improving conversation, before getting girls, I want to improve myself. But I guess making more friends is the only way to do that from what your saying familyguyfan? Eh, I don't really see how I'll improve if I start making a bunch of friends.
You're right, no one but you can improve your attitude, drive, or motivation. We can't make you more confident either. However, what we can do is help give you tips on making it easier to improve all of those things. Additionally, we can give you plenty of tips on what to do once you've improved all of those things. And I feel like that's what we've been trying to do. I mean let's face it, your confidence will only improve so much from you doing stuff by yourself. To truly gain confidence you need to actually go out and do things like approach girls, and gradually you won't be afraid anymore.I'm looking to improve myself, my attitude, my drive, my motivation, my ambition and it since it looks like no one hear can do anything to help me with that, looks like I'll have to do that myself. Once I'm more confident about myself, friends will come naturally, I'll have a better outlook on life, I won't care about having better conversational skills, I'll just go with the flow, this isn't a one day process, so I guess I'll start pondering ways on how I can improve these things now.
dont ever go to the gym to socialize.Originally posted by Docs
I'm not trying to be mean or anything but...you know where you sit on your ass all weekend long...
'Get a Life'
ie) get a few buddies and go downtown, explore what stuff is down there (pickup).
Play some pool, go to a more popular gym
Talk to a lot of people, get your conversation skills up (pickup)
Don't be afraid of rejection
Be determined to talk to at least 3 girls a day, no matter the outcome.
Pull out the saxophone in the middle of the hall and do some imitations of shows/songs.
You got lots of potential ^^.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Wow, I didn't think that trick was allowed here. Fucking marvelous!You are fucking hopeless
You need the really do something.pondering ways on how I can improve these things now.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Im helping you out. In these threads theres ALL THE ADVICE YOU NEED.Originally posted by Viper
You are freaking crazy man, not only is most of this irrelavent right now, but you freaking bumped a topic that's tons of monthes old.
Get a freaking life.