"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Wierd kiss close last night

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alright i went out with this chick I've known for like 11 years, but we've only really been aquantinces, she made it pretty clear she liked me before last night, so I take her to see the grudge, and she spends the entire movie cuddled in my lap (some great kino), and i would give her the occassional kiss on the shoulder, cheek. So after the movie I take her home and we talk for like 45min outside her house in my car, then she gives me the breath mint, so I took that as strong enough of a hint she wanted a kiss, then she innocently asked me if I would "hypothetically" be able to spend the night at a dorm (she lives in one like 20 min away but was visiting for the weekend). So yeah, and before she gets out I look in her eyes and go for the kiss. I was kinda expecting her to move in too, but she stayed still, but i pushed on.

After like five lips-parted pecks (her lips were movin too) i back up a bit and she's like "happy thanksgiving" and goes in to her house. It might be nothing, but she seemed a like she would be a little more into it based off her prior actions, my vibe was just that she wasn't too excited about it. and don't worry, she's been with guys before. anyways, anyone have that kind of experience?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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everybody has their weird moments dont worry about it..

just kiss her .. its supposed to be fun... over analyzing ruins the whole thing...

my theory on french kissing girls..
if you dont do it the first night > you shoulda done it when u said goodbye, but if u didnt.. then OK... whatever

if you dont do it the 2nd night > your fukked.. the girl is gonna be insulted and think u like her as a friend...


and if ur talking about dorms , u must be in college.. post in the duan juan forum....
 
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Pecks aren't bad. If she had no interest in you, she wouldn't have kissed you at all. Save the french kiss for the next date.
 
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haha funny you should mention that. On the next date (saturday), we were havin a great time, I made her laugh the whole time after the movie, we were fightin a little over this mp3 player i got (some good kino), but then when she left, i asked, well don't i get a kiss? and she said i already got one on thursday! so I told her jokingly "fine" and she acted all shocked, even tho it didn't make a difference. so i dunno. This makes it even stranger. Has good time, small kiss, has good time again, no kiss. Bah!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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What the hell dude, you TAKE the kiss the first time and you wimp out the second time. Grow some balls, if she wants you to kiss her then you are fine, if she doesn't then you should move on anyway. Don't be an afc.

Also, seriously; there are some kiss tests if you hesitate. David D has a fairly kosher method.
 
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