Why you should never take a woman's words at face value

[jonwon]

These are Quotes from ketostix.

1. Mexico is a screwed up place full of screw ups.

2. It sure seems like the UK guys that post here are a little jacked in the head.

3. Getting women is going back to the point of status.

4. her than giving a druggie hit of a drug that she can get easily from someone else on every corner (talking about sex)

5. This is why I bundle ‘money’ with ‘status’. Women don't care so much about what money buys, they don't even care about all the junk they buy themselves. Women don't care about objects. It's all about ‘status’ really.

6. Women say and think, "Making money the number 1 factor for going for a guy is being a gold digger. Being a gold digger is wrong!" (woman thinks or maybe it's even subconcious, she can't be "wrong").

So it becomes: "I went for him because xyz, blah blah blah." Voila she's magically not a good digger, according to her.

7. But women on the other hand do tell the whole world and will never admit they choose mean based on his ‘means’. Or ‘looks’

8. (I don't consider game being yourself really though). I don't see a lot of attractive women with men of modest means especially past college age.

9. It's in women's universal nature to be attracted to 'means' and 'status'.

10. My other point is, even you jonwon aren't really being yourself and not caring about what people think when gaming women. For instance, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't say the things you say on here to women you're gaming, but a woman would and she'd get away with it.

11. Are you saying you were of below average means and dated all these girls and they knew it and payed your way? Do you think girls wouldn't care if you were a broke homeless guy?


*End


If anyone is wondering why I am taking the stand to say FU to this guy instead of trying to validate my posts, well I hope the above helps.

K’ don’t even dare think I am in the same category has you, I am way fuc*ing way above your league my son and i will not qualify myself to you period!

Understand?

 

[ketostix]

I feel sorry for the women that come on here and have to take all the harsh words and flame-baiting against them!! Do women give better overall dating advice to men, than men in general? NO! But they can still give their view and perspective, and they also give better insight than many here!! Don't hate them for that!!!

If that were the case LMS I'd agree with you. Iqqi and women like her are the one's that flame-bait and use harsh, condenscending words and purposely antagonises people. You can't have a discussion with them. If guys on here are so interested in talking to women online, there's a bazillion of them on the 'net. I don't see the need for that here really. And what insight does she bring? It's the same stuff just about every guy's heard everywhere for years.

 

[ketostix]

These are Quotes from ketostix.

1. Mexico is a screwed up place full of screw ups.

2. It sure seems like the UK guys that post here are a little jacked in the head.

3. Getting women is going back to the point of status.

4. her than giving a druggie hit of a drug that she can get easily from someone else on every corner

5. This is why I bundle ‘money’ with ‘status’. Women don't care so much about what money buys, they don't even care about all the junk they buy themselves. Women don't care about objects. It's all about ‘status’ really.

6. Women say and think, "Making money the number 1 factor for going for a guy is being a gold digger. Being a gold digger is wrong!" (woman thinks or maybe it's even subconcious, she can't be "wrong").

So it becomes: "I went for him because xyz, blah blah blah." Voila she's magically not a good digger, according to her.

7. But women on the other hand do tell the whole world and will never admit they choose mean based on his ‘means’. Or ‘looks’

8. (I don't consider game being yourself really though). I don't see a lot of attractive women with men of modest means especially past college age.

9. It's in women's universal nature to be attracted to 'means' and 'status'.

10. My other point is, even you jonwon aren't really being yourself and not caring about what people think when gaming women. For instance, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't say the things you say on here to women you're gaming, but a woman would and she'd get away with it.

11. Are you saying you were of below average means and dated all these girls and they knew it and payed your way? Do you think girls wouldn't care if you were a broke homeless guy?


*End


If anyone is wondering why I am taking the stand to say FU to this guy instead of trying to validate my posts, well I hope the above helps.

K’ don’t even dare think I am in the same category has you, I am way fuc*ing way above your league my son and i will not qualify myself to you period!

Understand?

LOL dude what your point? What if someone snipped partial phrases out of context out of various posts of yours. I'm sure they'd make a lot of sense and make you look great . I wished someone would do that, but I don't feel like going through the trouble. You get funnier every minute.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Where Jonwon left off, I'll validate his point from here since he doesn't want to fight anymore. (Can't believe I'm defending Jonwon, but he was on a roll. And to think I put him on my ignore list for a while.)

I noticed that in every girl you listed, you listed her employment status. If that's not proof that status matters to you as a guy and to everyone else especially women I don't know what is.

He posted his list of women because it matters to YOU when in fact, it SHOULDN'T!!


I'll repeat it again (copy & paste)

He posted his list of women because it matters to YOU when in fact, it SHOULDN'T!!

His display as a man who is confident, sexual, social and shows good value traits bagged these women. He didn't flaunt tangible objects in these women's faces. He displayed who he is suppose to be; a man with desires and dreams. He took these women into HIS world, not the other way around. THIS is how it should be. He was a leader and a provider in many aspects.

He showed you his "resume" to drill it through your head, that deep down, in that little primal part of a woman, THIS is what she's been searching for as a female of her species. You put all the bullshyt aside like money and what people can do for you, and focus on what you can do for yourself and how much intangible pleasure you can give another being and you'll truly see that money and status matters not.

Well, I guess it worked for Jonwon. Maybe he's a special case. I dunno?

Hey Jonwon, are you THAT special? More so than us?

 

[jonwon]

Where Jonwon left off, I'll validate his point from here since he doesn't want to fight anymore. (Can't believe I'm defending Jonwon, but he was on a roll. And to think I put him on my ignore list for a while.)





He posted his list of women because it matters to YOU when in fact, it SHOULDN'T!!


I'll repeat it again (copy & paste)

He posted his list of women because it matters to YOU when in fact, it SHOULDN'T!!

His display as a man who is confident, sexual, social and shows good value traits bagged these women. He didn't flaunt tangible objects in these women's faces. He displayed who he is suppose to be; a man with desires and dreams. He took these women into HIS world, not the other way around. THIS is how it should be. He was a leader and a provider in many aspects.

He showed you his "resume" to drill it through your head, that deep down, in that little primal part of a woman, THIS is what she's been searching for as a female of her species. You put all the bullshyt aside like money and what people can do for you, and focus on what you can do for yourself and how much intangible pleasure you can give another being and you'll truly see that money and status matters not.

Well, I guess it worked for Jonwon. Maybe he's a special case. I dunno?

Hey Jonwon, are you THAT special? More so than us?

No and neither is the guy, you will see when you step out of work walking with that hot girl in his arm, he has just become more 'self' and apprecciated what he HAS then what he DOES NOT HAVE, big difference.

Thanks Thunder for the post btw, i apprecciate it

 

[ketostix]

Where Jonwon left off, I'll validate his point from here since he doesn't want to fight anymore. (Can't believe I'm defending Jonwon, but he was on a roll. And to think I put him on my ignore list for a while.)





He posted his list of women because it matters to YOU when in fact, it SHOULDN'T!!


I'll repeat it again (copy & paste)

He posted his list of women because it matters to YOU when in fact, it SHOULDN'T!!

His list of women doesn't matter one iota to me. In fact I don't even believe him just because he posted it. Not that I disbelieve him either because it's not that impressive. I've lost track of the women I've been with and wouldn't post a list anyway. He posted it for the simple reason to try to raise his status.

Why are you personally defending him like you know him and met him? You don'treally know anything about him, just what he types on here.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Yeah...well I've learned on this site is to TRY and support first and hate second. haha.

You're a pain in the ass, but you try to help. Rock on, Jonwon. :rockon:

 

[ThunderMaverick]

He made a good point that I think you don't understand, Keto. That's why I have his back on this one.

I noticed that in every girl you listed, you listed her employment status. If that's not proof that status matters to you as a guy and to everyone else especially women I don't know what is.

I only made that post solely because of that quote. Now you're saying it doesn't matter to you?

His list of women doesn't matter one iota to me.

But...

If that's not proof that status matters to you as a guy and to everyone else especially women I don't know what is.

If you're a total back peddler fine, but If you mean it matters to most men, then I understand it doesn't matter to you. You're saying it doesn't matter to YOU, but it matters to most men!

Then it shouldn't matter to most men. That's the point he and John and Iqqi and Rollo and I make.

Edit: I misread what you wrote it seems. I thought you were saying it matters to you, when in fact you were saying it matters to Jonwon.

But I already stated that he made the list because most guys think it matters when in fact it doesn't.

Whoo boy.

 

[jonwon]

K, your going on ignore.

This is my last post to you.

 

[ketostix]

K, your going on ignore.

This is my last post to you.

Good ignore me like a little girl, then hopefully I won't have to put up with anymore of your atttacks from out of left field. I probably should put you on ignore as well just so I won't have to read anymore of your raving and ranting diatribes about "modern western women" or any of your more recent posts that I can't make any sense of.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

CIVIL WAR

 

[STR8UP]

WEll, before this thread gets locked, I just wanna say one thing.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to have an intelligent discussion about women with regards to wealth or status, because some people don't have either one and don't believe they will ever have either one, so they feel the need to defend the fact that they too, can in fact get girls.

This is no doubt true, and I won't even debate about the "quality" aspect of the women a man without wealth or status is able to "get", because it's pointless. At the end of the day there are always mitigating factors that can make up for a lack of looks, a lack of money, a lack of personality, etc.

I just find it funny how passionate people get about this and how a simple discussion can turn into an all out flame war just because people are so opinionated about this subject.

There was some decent info being discussed, but as soon as people jump in and start with this ridiculous "you can't buy women with trinkets" crap, the thread goes to hell. And what really pisses me off is that nobody even said anything of the sort, it was simply some posters feeling their need to defend the fact that they do not perceive themselves to have wealth or status, so they try to extract an argument to plead a case that wasn't even brought against them in the first place!

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Well said.

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