"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why won't she leave her boyfriend and open her eyes.

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A month ago I met a girl in college and although we didn't talk for the first couple of encounters I finally got her interested and she started talking and texting way more often. She had had a boyfriend since high school for about 1 year and 6 months and I just can't understand what does she see in the this guy.

For an entire weekend we hung out and had a really good time together. we got drunk on Friday and she got a bit sick , I took her home took care of her and after he cuddled and kissed very intimately. We were not drunk and and we kissed all the way to the train and said goodbye. the next day I took her to the mall and spent the day together again just holding hands and kissing, we didn't go out that night but we texted a bit. The next day I visited her at home and had some drinks , we cuddled watched a movie and I was going to stay over but her mother walked in and i ended up leaving. After
this she felt guilty and i could.never kiss her again. She looks for me and looks for my attention but when her boyfriend comes home ( he works in a different town) she completely forgets about me. I sometime make silly jokes about what happened that weekend to make her realize that I have so much more to offer. A better future , a more exciting and thrilling life and things like that. I totally lost Control of it cause for the first part of our encounters she was the one looking for me, and I was the one in control and then it totally changed and I'm the one feeling clingy and ****ty watching pictures of her and her boyfriend. I really think she can do better and have something way better with me and I can't stop torturing myself with negative thoughts. Why doesn't she realize ? why did she cheat on her boyfriend with me if she loves him so much. I keep trying to find that weakness to dig in and take her over. Those are the questions in my head. I can spend a fair amount of hours without texting but then succumb andfeel weak trying to worder why she doesn't text back... I am in need of advice , I will be one month away from her and all I can thino is that she'll have a great time with her guy and not remember me at all.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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sylvester the cat

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She doesn't leave him cos she doesn't have to. She has her cake and she can eat it anytime she chooses.
 

Tomo

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1) Move on. Cut ties. Do not even reply to her. You've developed oneitis. The most you could have gotten out of this would have been being the other guy for how ever long.
2) Girls don't think logically. They ride on emotion. This guy must have a way of riling her up or making her hamster wheel spin.
3) You could be a great guy with everything but girls don't want perfection. You are more attractive as a man with flaws and able to role with it than a man that does not seem real.
 

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it's so "hot and cold" kind of thing and I keep looking for ways to get her... ugh
 

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So now that you know your princess is in another castle, ditch this b**ch and get on with your life! Unless you want to be a beta orbiter.

Case closed.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Turuwal

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Read the bible. Third post stickied in the forum.

To the mods, can we make the bible link even MORE unmissable than it already is? Stories like this make baby Jesus cry.
 

RagingBalls

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If you'll open your eyes, Rather than kissing a lips where another guy's c0ck has been into lately. Go find another girl.

Oneitis is bad man...bad


It's like you'll cry out of jealousy for them, that's beta faggotry.
 

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rsebast20 said:
why did she cheat on her boyfriend with me if she loves him so much. I keep trying to find that weakness to dig in and take her over.
Why buy when you can rent for free?

You're looking for a relationship and she's looking for a fvckbuddy.

For your own mental health, you need to do two things:
1. Realise that she's NOT a keeper.
2. Escalate like crazy and screw the guts out of her every opportunity you get.

This one is being handed to you on a silver platter, you'll kick yourself later if you don't take full advantage!
 

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Basic ***ch. forget her and find another plate. Besides. As said above she's cheating on her year and whatever bf what's that tell you?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Harry Wilmington

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Here's the truth: you're NOT better for her than that other guy. Yes, you think you're great and have more to offer, but the reality is that ANY guy who has a crush on a girl that's dating someone else ALWAYS thinks they're better than the guy the girl is currently dating.

The reason? We think about the situation LOGICALLY instead of EMOTIONALLY, which is what they thrive on moreso than we do. This is why you could look at a girl that's dating, say, a pimp or someone that's abusing her, or some guy that's hella lazy with no job who lives with his Mom, and think to yourself: "Man, doesn't she see this?? My life is SO much more put together than this guy's life, why won't she date me instead?? Doesn't she want better?" And yet, the reality could be that he's making her feel things that other guys can't. Heck, I'm not even gonna lie: at one point in my life, I WAS this "other guy" with his life not completely put together, and I was STILL banging hot chicks for this same reason.

You have to stop thinking so logically about this whole relationship thing. Now, I'm not an advocator of only going after girls with boyfriends - I don't feel I have anything to prove, and I'd prefer going after girls who are single 'cause it's easier. BUT, if you ARE trying to go this route, you need to stop thinking about what his life situation is, and concentrate more on what he's bringing to her life EMOTIONALLY that's causing her to stay. Once you figure that part out - which you can do via listening to her stories about him - you can find out what she's emotionally responding to and proceed accordingly. But again, it's a LOT of work, and there are MORE THAN ENOUGH GIRLS out there to date (despite your current tunnel vision).
 

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So many AFC's on here lately with this basic @ss sh!t. Mods need to make a AFC test before new member can join. You fail: you have to read the dj bible and then take the test again.

This is supposed to be a forum for guys who somewhat know what theyre doing. No advice will be utilized by AFC's if they don't know the core principles behind the way women work. Period.
 

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you had your fun so move on to someone else, she isn't going to leave him when she's getting what she wants out of him, she has two betas both you and him.
 

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Lmao.

OP, why wont YOU open you eyes. Chasing chicks with a bf is a losing effort. Always. Even if you get the girl, she can and likely will do the same to you eventually.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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This chick wanted some side action, but the bf came around and she pulled back. You don't make these girls girlfriends, man, what's the matter with you? You wait till Mr. Boyfriend is at work and you pound the piss out of em and leave em wanting more.

Any other Disney-esque scenarios should be abandonded from your mind.

If she denies you action, you leave her the fück alone and find a willing playmate.
 
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The old "innocent and blackout after a few drinks slvt!" Avoid women like her at all costs. You're trying to spin some other guys plate which is just pathetic and you are now her emotional tampon orbiter beta. Women like her aren't worth more than a pump and dump.
 

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Bro seriously.. You acting beta as ****.

Also, you know that she has a boyfriend and you went after her? Wtf is wrong with you? Can you not find single chicks?

Get your **** together and go game.
 

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Mauser96 said:
So, let me get this straight. You found a girl who is willing to cheat on her boyfriend. Now you want to BE her boyfriend?

Do YOU see anything wrong here?
Haha. That's blunt reality right there.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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