"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Why Why WHY Do Movies Teach You to be an AFC?

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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So my question is...do the writers of these movies understand the whole concept of AFC vs. alpha? Obviously not in pickup terms, but do they realize that the main reason their movies are unrealistic is not the unattractiveness or lack of wealth or social weirdness of the loser guy getting the girl, but the ridiculously wussy things he says to her?

I mean, the character never starts his great speech to win back the lady with "I know I may not be the most confident or most dominant guy..." it's always "I know I may not be the smartest or the best looking guy..."

Do you think the writers know that those qualities don't count nearly as much in a female's mind, or are they actually total AFCs who think that you have to be smart, rich, and good looking to get any good looking girl unless you have EPIC luck and personality like Adam Sandler, in which case none of those things matter?
 

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Alle_Gory said:
CSI can take a picture and enhance, enhance, enhance to find the perp.
I remember an episode where they had a video from a gas station
security camera and the perps reflection was on the back of some kids spoon

PS Grissom was a fkn PIMP the way he DJ'd Sidle for 7 seasons then impaled her on hid dck for the finale
 

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They make movies like this because they know it'll make women happy. Nobody gives a **** about how men feel but if you even REMOTELY seem like you're attacking women then you better be prepared for a **** storm buddy. This is the basic standard of movies: selling people dreams. Similar to the pimp game actually but guys don't do stupid **** like this because of movies. If you already knew the game then you would just say "this is stupid" and keep it movin. If you already believe to a degree then the movies will just reinforce your beliefs. Have you guys seen that god awful movie "Can't Buy Me Love"? This guy excitedly tricked off his doe so this future fat bitch would be happy with him for the time being! He bought her a $1000 dress to make him "cool". At the end they had a relationship or whatever but in the real world it doesn't work that way AT ALL. If movies teach you anything at all, it's that people don't like reality. Why do you think **** like Star Wars and Lord Of The Rings are some of the highest grossing movies EVER?
 

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Not even the women are accurate in the movies. Most movies happen in some fantasty land Land where all guys are AFC and the woman is gorgeous and perfect in every way, she craps rainbows and has an intuition that can predict the weather.

Terminator 2 is more grounded in reality than most romantic comedies.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I think it makes for crappy movies, but I also appreciate that movies tell guys to be AFC. Gives me an advantage.

Also, a girl I watched "The Ugly Truth" last night with a girl I'm doing. If I had known it was a chick flick, I never would have done it but whatev. The guy in the movie starts out as a total pimp who will say anything to anyone. A perfect DJ. Excellent. Then they throw in some fake sh*t about his heart being broken and he goes AFC.

I'm not entirely sure about the ending cause I just told this girl that the movie was getting stupid. But what I heard over our sex sounds pretty much catered to women.

Also, bond movies are not this way!
 

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I guess none of you have watched the ancient movie Gone With the Wind. Well, to be fair, the story itself had nothing to do with Hollywood, it was a novel at first.
 

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Most movies teach us to be AFC because in the first place, the studio heads themselves are AFC's. (all movies put out must be approved by the head execs)

They might be good business men, wealthy, commanding and even almost alpha and whatnot. However, they put women on
such high pedestals that their egos can't even see past a woman's 'perfect beauty'. Moreover, some execs believe that beauty has always a price, meaning that, to get the perfect girl, you either must be : rich, good looking or a member of high society.



Yet, of course, there are exceptions.





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Alle_Gory said:
Nobody's forcing you to do anything. You can do whatever you want whenever you want.

Quit your b*tching guys. Face it, the world is not fair and its not something out of a Disney movie where everyone is happy like sunshine and things work out in the end. They don't. But there's lots of opportunities to make the best of things instead of b*tching that its not fair.

Boo hoo.

You seem to be b*tching (at us) about women for almost everything... like a woman. Now, if you don't like what women do, then stay away from them and screw something else. Something easier that doesn't move or talk back maybe?
You are an unstable emotionally driven sociopath.. clearly..
I F lots of hos.. but we are here to discuss the issues associated with Fing said hos.. and how to make it as easy as possible to F them.


If you dont like the realities outlined in this thread, and have nothing logical to contribute, then go to an "AFC message board" where they will only type what you want to hear..

No one said they were being "forced" but they are bound by their heterosexual human nature to seek out and F the PU$$ies that women posses..

We dont expect you to understand or empathize with the male human issues associated with mating..
 

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DonGorgon said:
You are an unstable emotionally driven sociopath.. clearly..
I F lots of hos.. but we are here to discuss the issues associated with Fing said hos.. and how to make it as easy as possible to F them.
The hell? Do you even know what a sociopath is? I suggest you do some reading before you throw around labels like that. You might offend someone or look stupid.

Some reading about sociopaths: http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/10/22/what-all-sociopaths-have-in-common/

You're welcome.

No one said they were being "forced" but they are bound by their heterosexual human nature to seek out and F the PU$$ies that women posses..
FutureSpartan said:
They force men to compete buying nice cars, houses, clothes, etc...
Reading comprehension FAIL.



Exhumed said:
So my question is...do the writers of these movies understand the whole concept of AFC vs. alpha? Obviously not in pickup terms, but do they realize that the main reason their movies are unrealistic is not the unattractiveness or lack of wealth or social weirdness of the loser guy getting the girl, but the ridiculously wussy things he says to her?
It's not always the writer's fault. They're just getting paid to do a job. There's studio executives, producers, the director, and editors. The writer is just one part of it and they usually don't have much control over the final product.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Alle_Gory said:
The hell? Do you even know what a sociopath is? I suggest you do some reading before you throw around labels like that. You might offend someone or look stupid.

Some reading about sociopaths: http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/10/22/what-all-sociopaths-have-in-common/

You're welcome.





Reading comprehension FAIL.





It's not always the writer's fault. They're just getting paid to do a job. There's studio executives, producers, the director, and editors. The writer is just one part of it and they usually don't have much control over the final product.
lol... you are worse than i thought
 

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Hollywood movies are complete nonsense. Why would anybody even take any of them seriously? There is no reason that a romance movie would or should be any more realistic than an action movie. It is just for entertainment and for making money for the corporations.
 

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DonGorgon said:
lol... you are worse than i thought
Nicely played off. Now let's see some more of that off the wall female behaviour, Ms.Gordon?

PappyS said:
Hollywood movies are complete nonsense. Why would anybody even take any of them seriously? There is no reason that a romance movie would or should be any more realistic than an action movie. It is just for entertainment and for making money for the corporations.
I don't know why, but most people if they see something on TV they believe it more than... the crazy bum on the corner. It gives it some sort of credibility.

I'm sure someone who does psychology can explain it best.
 

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Nicely played off. Now let's see some more of that off the wall female behaviour, Ms.Gordon?.

Ok so you are the resident E-thug:box: :box: :box: ..lol well i guess its time for the ignore button before you get mad and start e-stalking me..lol silly..:crackup:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Just watched a really sick flick.....Wanted watch it...its kinda like everything this site teaches in movie form
 

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Alle_Gory said:
I don't know why, but most people if they see something on TV they believe it more than... the crazy bum on the corner. It gives it some sort of credibility.

I'm sure someone who does psychology can explain it best.
People believe what they see on TV or in movies but it is mostly b.s. People on the street, however, will sometimes provide real information. Or at least a different perspective.

Like the saying goes, you can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time. But you can't fool all the people all of the time.
 

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Nicely played off. Now let's see some more of that off the wall female behaviour, Ms.Gordon?

I don't know why, but most people if they see something on TV they believe it more than... the crazy bum on the corner. It gives it some sort of credibility.

I'm sure someone who does psychology can explain it best.
TV exists because of advertisers. If it weren't for them, you would not be receiving broadcasts that include commercials.

The overriding primary goal of advertising it to make you feel unsatisfied (crush any self-esteem) with what you currently have and to make you want more so you'll feel like a better person temporarily. They do this by making people unsatisfied and hooked on that bad feeling by doing things to get them emotionally hooked like couching it in comedy and/or drama.

Nothing about Television series commercial-oriented broadcasting is meant to seriously educate or evolve people, it's meant to get you hooked and spend your money in the way they want.

It's not negative, it's just reality. "Who Profits" aka old-school Latin "cui bono?" {---- yea, everyone wants something, get over it.

Yes, I know this is a thread/comment jack but I felt like blabbering so I did it.
 

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They dont "teach" you to become an AFC. It just happens that the story wouldnt work out if they put an alpha male.
Movies dont create afcs. If you're already an AFC a movie will only reinforce your afc beliefs. There are many movies out there where the hero or the alpha male gets the girl. Like James Bond. But since you're a born afc you dont take notice of those situtaions and dont learn anything from them.

But the alpha males are the ones that watch James Bond and actually learn and incorporate it into themselves. A born alpha male instinctively knows that movies like Loser are pure fantasy BS. While the AFC thinks that Loser is the real deal and thinks James Bond gets the girl purely by chance.
 

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r0cky said:
While the AFC thinks that Loser is the real deal and thinks James Bond gets the girl purely by chance.
You're right. In reality both movies are completely based in fantasy. They're just on opposite sides. One is suave, the other is a complete wuss.

Which brings me back to my point. Movies have no credibility whatsoever but for some reason people give them credibility. Probably because they identify with the characters on the screen. The more similar the character to their own, the stronger the bond and the more reinforced their beliefs become. The AFC becomes more so, and the Alpha just keeps doing the same damn thing better.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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